Any guesses on the 06 Si 1/4 mile?? Post here
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Any guesses on the 06 Si 1/4 mile?? Post here
I'm guessing 14.4 to 14.9 range with an awesome driver especially after the tov dyno honda seriously underrated the Si 204.5hp to the wheels makes it about 240 to the engine and with the lsd and good tires i think it will be much faster than the rsx, just my .02$
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Rep Power: 304 The tov Hub dyno reads very high. Shawn Church indicates that his dyno is known to read higher than the newer dynopacks.
My guess is that its got similar times to the rsx-s.
My guess is that its got similar times to the rsx-s.
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On a stock "off the lot" Si, I think it'll be around the 15's, but nothing quicker than that.
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Originally Posted by ctv
well it has less hp and the type s its 100lbs heavier than a type s, 15.2-14.9
Well in reality its about 37 pounds heavier then the 05 rsx-s and its 4 hp less with a flatter torque curve. Its comes with better engine mounts(completly revised set up), stiffer suspension, LSD and optional Sticky tires. So I don't think it will be slower than a Type S, maybe even slightly quicker if you ask me. TOV also indicates the 05 rsx-s dyno was not as strong on the same dyno. But could the TOV Si be extra healthy?
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bone stock with factory tires probably the same as if not slightly slower than the type s. who would buy the type s if the si is faster? i guess for looks
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Originally Posted by 02boostlessCIV
I'm guessing 14.4 to 14.9 range with an awesome driver especially after the tov dyno honda seriously underrated the Si 204.5hp to the wheels makes it about 240 to the engine and with the lsd and good tires i think it will be much faster than the rsx, just my .2$
Are you crazy?
God damn, 240 at the fly? LOL
Your $.2 (that is 20 cents btw, not 2 cents), is complete bs.
Try low 15s, maybe dipping in the 14.9 range once the driver gets used to DBW launching.
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Originally Posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
15.5...... hitting 14 may be tough stock. Just taking some wild guess, to hit 14's with it's stock weight and tires, somewhere close to 185-190 whp would do the trick.
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Originally Posted by QBoi
Are you crazy?
God damn, 240 at the fly? LOL
Your $.2 (that is 20 cents btw, not 2 cents), is complete bs.
Try low 15s, maybe dipping in the 14.9 range once the driver gets used to DBW launching.
God damn, 240 at the fly? LOL
Your $.2 (that is 20 cents btw, not 2 cents), is complete bs.
Try low 15s, maybe dipping in the 14.9 range once the driver gets used to DBW launching.
to compare
05 RSX-S 201bhp 6 speed tranny no lsd 2840 lbs- 1/4 14.9sec
06 Civic Si 197bhp 6 speed tranny lsd 2877 1/4 ???
there's a rumor someone did do 1/4 mile run with the Si and got 15.5 but i call that bs
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Originally Posted by 02boostlessCIV
okay let's hypothetically say you're not as ignorant as you look... Tov dynoed the car...my point is: I agree maybe their hub dyno read too much so lets say they got 195 whp take 195x1.18 (18% loss through tranny) that makes it 230hp at the crank....do you agree with the math portion? okay now i didn't say YOU will be able to get it down to 14.5-14.9 i said with an AWESOME driver that means profesional who probably knows how to drive dbw cars, then you even said it is possible...how is that making you look? and i also said lsd and good tires
to compare
05 RSX-S 201bhp 6 speed tranny no lsd 2840 lbs- 1/4 14.9sec
06 Civic Si 197bhp 6 speed tranny lsd 2877 1/4 ???
there's a rumor someone did do 1/4 mile run with the Si and got 15.5 but i call that bs
to compare
05 RSX-S 201bhp 6 speed tranny no lsd 2840 lbs- 1/4 14.9sec
06 Civic Si 197bhp 6 speed tranny lsd 2877 1/4 ???
there's a rumor someone did do 1/4 mile run with the Si and got 15.5 but i call that bs
You are calling me ignorant? You are the one who is severely misinformed.
LSD does not make a huge difference when launching. LSD is more useful in track applications.
Have you ever driven a DBW car? Depending on the application, the DBW may provide instantaneous response, or there might be a slight lag before it.
The DBW in the TSX is so much different then the DBW in the Corvette or NSX. Just because a driver is experienced with DBW doesn't mean he can launch it perfectly. Shawn Church is the driver on the VTEC.net and he couldn't get the launch right.
Did it ever occur to you that TOVs k20z3 might be underrated? Honda handbuilt the preproduction k20z3s for the tuners at SEMA.
my point is: I agree maybe their hub dyno read too much so lets say they got 195 whp
low 16's? ... I don't think so, unless you've had a leg amputated.
I hate mis-information, so I'll just point some things out ...
197 is the new SAE corrected numbers ... the fact that it is only 4 hp less than the 06 rsx-s means a lot. the 06 rsx-s has exactly the same engine as the 05's ... without the SAE corrected hp figures, the rsx-s is still 210 crank hp. SAE numbers are just closer to whp than before.
the 204 hp that TOV.net put out was with the air filter/box off. Not to mention it was done on church's dynapak (there is no such thing as a dynopak .. whoever said that). dynapaks also measure horsepower at the hubs ... stick the wheels/tires on there and you've just lost 15-20 hp or more if you have super heavy rims.
the 06 si has the type r final drive, just like the 05-06 rsx-s. and the car is only 50-ish pounds heavier than the 05 rsx-s. not to mention it has lsd.
I think high 14's is possible with a bone stock 06 si
I hate mis-information, so I'll just point some things out ...
197 is the new SAE corrected numbers ... the fact that it is only 4 hp less than the 06 rsx-s means a lot. the 06 rsx-s has exactly the same engine as the 05's ... without the SAE corrected hp figures, the rsx-s is still 210 crank hp. SAE numbers are just closer to whp than before.
the 204 hp that TOV.net put out was with the air filter/box off. Not to mention it was done on church's dynapak (there is no such thing as a dynopak .. whoever said that). dynapaks also measure horsepower at the hubs ... stick the wheels/tires on there and you've just lost 15-20 hp or more if you have super heavy rims.
the 06 si has the type r final drive, just like the 05-06 rsx-s. and the car is only 50-ish pounds heavier than the 05 rsx-s. not to mention it has lsd.
I think high 14's is possible with a bone stock 06 si
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Originally Posted by QBoi
You are calling me ignorant? You are the one who is severely misinformed.
LSD does not make a huge difference when launching. LSD is more useful in track applications.
Have you ever driven a DBW car? Depending on the application, the DBW may provide instantaneous response, or there might be a slight lag before it.
The DBW in the TSX is so much different then the DBW in the Corvette or NSX. Just because a driver is experienced with DBW doesn't mean he can launch it perfectly. Shawn Church is the driver on the VTEC.net and he couldn't get the launch right.
Did it ever occur to you that TOVs k20z3 might be underrated? Honda handbuilt the preproduction k20z3s for the tuners at SEMA.
Are you insane? ONE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE HORSES TO THE WHEELS? Jesus, you really do not know what you are talking about. You are whipping numbers out of your ***.
LSD does not make a huge difference when launching. LSD is more useful in track applications.
Have you ever driven a DBW car? Depending on the application, the DBW may provide instantaneous response, or there might be a slight lag before it.
The DBW in the TSX is so much different then the DBW in the Corvette or NSX. Just because a driver is experienced with DBW doesn't mean he can launch it perfectly. Shawn Church is the driver on the VTEC.net and he couldn't get the launch right.
Did it ever occur to you that TOVs k20z3 might be underrated? Honda handbuilt the preproduction k20z3s for the tuners at SEMA.
Are you insane? ONE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE HORSES TO THE WHEELS? Jesus, you really do not know what you are talking about. You are whipping numbers out of your ***.
Sure...lol
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Originally Posted by 02boostlessCIV
Now that i read all that i agree with you but the whp has been proved by hasport also and they did a real dyno 180whp with the airbox on 190whp with the airbox off and i dont think the production civic is going to be much different from the preproduction one, i believe the fuel settings and all that good stuff is still going to be the same, oh and i know dbw is hard to drive because i own a car with dbw.
hasport's dyno was done at the hubs also
dbw itself doesnt mean that the car is hard to drive. it all depends on the car.
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Originally Posted by mugenman
i say low 15's bone stock
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Originally Posted by cubanmike26
Dude, I replied that shiet like a week ago..lol..
nah more like two days ago
nah more like two days ago
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