8th gen civic, R-series SOHC engine??
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8th gen civic, R-series SOHC engine??
Hello all, i searched, and this doesn't appear to be a repost, but i was just checkin out vtec.net, and i found this:
new model matrix
fall 05 for the civic:
FMC: 1.8L SOHC 140hp i-VTEC 4 (R18), 2.0L/200hp 6MT (Si), Direct Injection(?), ~3 inches longer and wider than current Civic, retains front McPherson strut susp. Si returns as a Coupe, Si gets "track tuned" suspension, optional navi.
im guessing that honda has a new engine, the R-series. and the si has optional nav. interesting.
new model matrix
fall 05 for the civic:
FMC: 1.8L SOHC 140hp i-VTEC 4 (R18), 2.0L/200hp 6MT (Si), Direct Injection(?), ~3 inches longer and wider than current Civic, retains front McPherson strut susp. Si returns as a Coupe, Si gets "track tuned" suspension, optional navi.
im guessing that honda has a new engine, the R-series. and the si has optional nav. interesting.
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Rep Power: 273 So the d-series is dead and now comes the r-series.... hmmmm......
That page there also says the EL will recieve a k-series motor to. Sounds like doing a k-swap has just become simpler if you shell out the $$$ for factory parts.
now that I think about it, that's if the EL doesn't change body styles with the 8th gen civic. 
That page there also says the EL will recieve a k-series motor to. Sounds like doing a k-swap has just become simpler if you shell out the $$$ for factory parts.
now that I think about it, that's if the EL doesn't change body styles with the 8th gen civic. Last edited by PrecisnTec; Jun 27, 2005 at 07:14 AM.
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Originally Posted by ctv
3 INCHES Longer AND WIDER!!, my 04 is already long enough!! fvk that. think of the extra weight!!!!
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if the car is 3 inches longer in the front that would be great cause the back looks to long right now but if u get 3 more in the front thats more room for the engine and appareance
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Rep Power: 330 if they do make an r-series engine, i hope it has some power. if i ever buy one though it will be an Si. but SOHC i-vtec, thats something i want to check out.
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Originally Posted by ctv
3 INCHES Longer AND WIDER!!, my 04 is already long enough!! fvk that. think of the extra weight!!!!
For comparison, Civic and Corolla, the current Corolla is 178 inches.... Civic sedan is 174... which makes it 177 for the 8thgen..... not a long car compared to many other cars out there.
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Originally Posted by ctv
3 INCHES Longer AND WIDER!!, my 04 is already long enough!! fvk that. think of the extra weight!!!!
Wait....oh civic...yeah
also:
anyone check these out?
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enth...178.A8842.html
looks like all the civic models are going 5 lug ..
anyone check these out?
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enth...178.A8842.html
looks like all the civic models are going 5 lug ..
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Originally Posted by PennyKnotOff
Very interesting, maybe considering a trade in now......
I hope they weigh more than our cars!
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Here's some new info i found : http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=376015
TOKYO, Japan, July 5, 2005 - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today announced that it has developed a new 1.8l i-VTEC engine to be introduced this fall in the new Civic that achieves both more powerful performance and improved fuel economy. The engine employs an intelligent VTEC system that switches the valve timing for maximum efficiency during startup and acceleration to achieve powerful, torquey performance, then delays intake valve closure timing during cruising and other low-load conditions for improved fuel economy. Use of the valve timing control system results in off-the-line acceleration performance equivalent to a 2.0-liter engine, fuel economy approximately 6% better than the current 1.7-liter Civic engine, making it one of the world’s most efficient 1.8-liter engine designs. During cruising, the new engine achieves particularly high fuel economy, on a par with that of a 1.5-liter engine.A DBW (Drive By Wire) system provides high-precision control over the throttle valve while the valve timing is being changed over, ensuring smooth driving performance that leaves the driver unaware of any torque fluctuations. Other innovations include a variable-length intake manifold that delivers optimum inertia effect to further improve intake efficiency and piston oil jets that cool the pistons to suppress engine knock, for powerful torque even at rpm ranges typical in normal driving. The new engine delivers a high level of performance, with maximum output of 103kW (140PS) and maximum torque of 174N·m (17.7kg·m). It also delivers cleaner emission performance, employing a 2-bed catalytic converter positioned immediately after the manifold and high-precision air-fuel ratio control to achieve emission levels 75% below 2005 Japanese government standards (based on Honda in-house testing).
In addition, lower block construction resulting in a more rigid engine frame, aluminum rocker arms, high-strength cracked connecting rods, a narrow, silent cam chain, and other innovations make the engine more compact and lightweight. It is both lighter and shorter overall than the current Civic 1.7l engine, and quieter as well.
Engine type and number of cylinders: Water-cooled in-line 4-cylinder
Displacement (cc): 1,799
Bore × Stroke (mm): 81.0 × 87.3
Max. Output (kW [PS]/rpm): 103 [140]/6,300 rpm
Max. Torque (N·m [kg·m]/rpm): 174 [17.7]/4,300 rpm
Compression Ratio: 10.5:1
*All values according to Honda in-house calculations
TOKYO, Japan, July 5, 2005 - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today announced that it has developed a new 1.8l i-VTEC engine to be introduced this fall in the new Civic that achieves both more powerful performance and improved fuel economy. The engine employs an intelligent VTEC system that switches the valve timing for maximum efficiency during startup and acceleration to achieve powerful, torquey performance, then delays intake valve closure timing during cruising and other low-load conditions for improved fuel economy. Use of the valve timing control system results in off-the-line acceleration performance equivalent to a 2.0-liter engine, fuel economy approximately 6% better than the current 1.7-liter Civic engine, making it one of the world’s most efficient 1.8-liter engine designs. During cruising, the new engine achieves particularly high fuel economy, on a par with that of a 1.5-liter engine.A DBW (Drive By Wire) system provides high-precision control over the throttle valve while the valve timing is being changed over, ensuring smooth driving performance that leaves the driver unaware of any torque fluctuations. Other innovations include a variable-length intake manifold that delivers optimum inertia effect to further improve intake efficiency and piston oil jets that cool the pistons to suppress engine knock, for powerful torque even at rpm ranges typical in normal driving. The new engine delivers a high level of performance, with maximum output of 103kW (140PS) and maximum torque of 174N·m (17.7kg·m). It also delivers cleaner emission performance, employing a 2-bed catalytic converter positioned immediately after the manifold and high-precision air-fuel ratio control to achieve emission levels 75% below 2005 Japanese government standards (based on Honda in-house testing).
In addition, lower block construction resulting in a more rigid engine frame, aluminum rocker arms, high-strength cracked connecting rods, a narrow, silent cam chain, and other innovations make the engine more compact and lightweight. It is both lighter and shorter overall than the current Civic 1.7l engine, and quieter as well.
Engine type and number of cylinders: Water-cooled in-line 4-cylinder
Displacement (cc): 1,799
Bore × Stroke (mm): 81.0 × 87.3
Max. Output (kW [PS]/rpm): 103 [140]/6,300 rpm
Max. Torque (N·m [kg·m]/rpm): 174 [17.7]/4,300 rpm
Compression Ratio: 10.5:1
*All values according to Honda in-house calculations
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Rep Power: 0 ^ here is the English version: http://world.honda.com/HDTV/news/200...05a/index.html
points of interest (some may be reposts):
- new mass air flow sensor
- dual stage intake manifold
- TWO catalytic converters directly on the header (similar to the D17a1)
- piston oil squirters
- 10.5:1 compression, but still able to use low grade octane
- lighter rods
- lighter than the D17
R18 ... 1.8L, ~137 HP, 128 TQ.
good torque ... as much as the USDM B18c1. And with the factory restrictions, it'll be much more responsive to mods.
points of interest (some may be reposts):
- new mass air flow sensor
- dual stage intake manifold
- TWO catalytic converters directly on the header (similar to the D17a1)
- piston oil squirters
- 10.5:1 compression, but still able to use low grade octane
- lighter rods
- lighter than the D17
R18 ... 1.8L, ~137 HP, 128 TQ.
good torque ... as much as the USDM B18c1. And with the factory restrictions, it'll be much more responsive to mods.
