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Old Feb 12, 2005
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Exclamation Battle of Concepts: o6 sI vs. o6 Azeal...

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Car: o6 Honda Civic sI
What We Know So Far: 6speed, 200hp, iVTEC, LSD

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Car: o6 Nissan Azeal
What We Know So Far: 6speed, Turbocharged 2.5L, LSD

Which Concept Would You Choose and Why?
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2006 CIVIC
All Motor - 200 HP. N/A does it for me.
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I miss the days when cars didn't have to be one giant curve.
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the nissan is a bit ugly
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Do you guys think the shape of these 2 cars and the Scion tC are similiar?
but the Si is much hotter!
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si >>>>>> azeal
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right now the si looks less like a concept and more like a production.
Exterior: Si cause im sick of nissans new styling (front grill especially)
Interior: Azeal cause Si has none!
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Originally Posted by maxtierney
2006 CIVIC
All Motor - 200 HP. N/A does it for me.
That does it for me too. I dont like the front grill on the azeal bit I do love projectors. Ill just pick a pair up for the si. Alot of people say the 06 si is copying the tC but the azeal looks much more like the tC in shape than the si does! Ill take the si when it comes out
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Si always! Fuel economy and 200 hp N/A. nissan will definetely be more expensive
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Yeah the azeal doesn't look like much more than a concept, where the Si is 90% complete and is about as close to production as a concept can get.
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Originally Posted by Kizuel
I miss the days when cars didn't have to be one giant curve.
i like the new si, but really i agree with you. wtf. it is like the car designers are trying to be too futuristic looking with their design. like they are looking off movies and ****.
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Originally Posted by jakejham
i like the new si, but really i agree with you. wtf. it is like the car designers are trying to be too futuristic looking with their design. like they are looking off movies and ****.

As long as it appeals to people like me, thats fine for them.
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I love Honda design... although, like mentioned, those projectors would look hot...
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wow the azeal has both g35 and 350z features in it....kinda cool. i bet u its proply gonna be between 250-300hp.

si styling is still alot better.

si>>azeal for me
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i doubt the azeal is going to get 250-300hp. it would be dumb of them to make a cheaper coupe that could outrun their flagship 350Z.
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I would definately take the SI. It just looks so smooth. I like the Nissan design movement but it isnt quite as sleek, it looks good if your trying to say, "look at me."
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si>>

but are they even in the same category???
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civic si concept is soo sexy...
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Originally Posted by Vinnie
the nissan is a bit ugly
a bit?
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The only thing about the nissan that i like are the HIDs
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He he, I'm starting to see some nice Si sigs.
IMO, the new Si is without a doubt the most sporty, agressive & stylish looking of the competition.

Even though I dislike the a/c vents on the Azeal, Nissan has a very nice interior. I think HONDA will have to really work on the Si's interior, but then again, H always represents!
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With the outside of the si looking so good, I think they will put some work into the inside as well. Im excited for SEMA!
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^^^I truly hope so...
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Si all the way.....that azeal looks like the mini me of the g35.ghey.
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I would take neither I find both kinda ugly and the Azeal won't have that power Nissan already said they were cutting it back because of there new flagship. The G35 GTR also known as the Skyline. That way they can compete with the New Supra and its 500hp.
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civic. looks much better.
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that si is so incredibly hot...I must have one!...lol I think I'm gonna stop immediately doing stuff to my current coupe and start saving up for the si....
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The Si looks better, but if Nissan actually introduces a 2.5L FI engine its going to be the SR20 all over again with people notching the boost up to god only knows what.

It'd be good competition for the SRT-4 and other similarly boosted cars. Frankly, and I don't know who will agree w. me and who won't, 200hp just isn't a lot nowadays. With SRT-4s and Cobalts putting down higer numbers w.out needing to rev high, NA or not and Nissan putting faster and faster engines into it's cars and hell, even Toyota putting a factory/TRD supercharger on it's tC 200HP is just making the bar.

Compared to the D-series in the Civic that responds like bollocks to most every mod, a 200HP car is welcome and I'm sure it'll respond great to aftermarket boost, but why can't it just come from the factory that way?
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Si, gotta rep Honda, plus i like the headlight shape
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The Si looks better, but if Nissan actually introduces a 2.5L FI engine its going to be the SR20 all over again with people notching the boost up to god only knows what.

It'd be good competition for the SRT-4 and other similarly boosted cars. Frankly, and I don't know who will agree w. me and who won't, 200hp just isn't a lot nowadays. With SRT-4s and Cobalts putting down higer numbers w.out needing to rev high, NA or not and Nissan putting faster and faster engines into it's cars and hell, even Toyota putting a factory/TRD supercharger on it's tC 200HP is just making the bar.

Compared to the D-series in the Civic that responds like bollocks to most every mod, a 200HP car is welcome and I'm sure it'll respond great to aftermarket boost, but why can't it just come from the factory that way?
not the sr20, probably some form of the QR25 or VQ35. From reading news reports around the web and statments from nissan, they thing will get release very soon. Nissan calls it, there entry level "pocket rocket" car for the tuners. So just by that we know nissan is aiming for the SC/TC cars of todays market (cobalt, srt4, tC, wrx, evo, sti). I like the look of the honda, but looks only go so far IMO, you gotta have the power to back it up, and now it's getting 200hp that's good, but lacky in todays market. Nissan reason for bringing out the azeal was to go against the tC and o6 sI... report in japan have said nissan knew about honda's sI and it would get a healthy dose upgrade. They also felt the specV was getting old and need to be fully upgraded in every department, hints why o5 is the last year of the specV.

Also it's easier to say "boost a car", than to actually do it. Lot of R&D work, time, effort. Plus honda is not known for turbo... there all motor, REV HIGH cars. Your right thou, it's not competition for the sI more cobalt, srt4, tC, but when they both come out people will compare the 2, since they look awfully close. Im exepecting the azeal have between 210-230hp and, be priced about 18-20k.

IMO: F/I > All Motor... you can only go so far w/ all motor, w/ boost crank it up, or build up internals... than crank it up.
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