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Old Dec 5, 2004
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Lightbulb AWD d17

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/c...ype/index.html
hmmmm, wonder how hard a swap would be
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THATS AWESOME!! but still slow
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i guess it is not awd just realtime 4wd. what is the difference??? Im thinking that realtime only works when you need it to???
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^^^ exactly, it adapts to the road or terrain surface.
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^^^ exactly, it adapts to the road or terrain surface.
dosen't sound so cool now
there wed site is messed up though kind of fun to look at
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the wagons have realtime AWD. anyways, i swap would be harder. why? left hand drive into right hand drive and new drive train. just import one.
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Originally Posted by lkm
the wagons have realtime AWD. anyways, i swap would be harder. why? left hand drive into right hand drive and new drive train. just import one.
I was just kidding about the swap, but the only difference would be that the wiring harness is backward. Everything else is fine. It is the same as a K type R would be .
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^ hehe, gotta love it when ppl dont look at pics. check out the floor in the rear, theres a hump in the middle. most likely for the axle going back to the rear wheels. so in other words, if u want to do that swap, ud have to redo the entire bottom/underside of your car.
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Originally Posted by lkm
the wagons have realtime AWD. anyways, i swap would be harder. why? left hand drive into right hand drive and new drive train. just import one.
besides, you just don't buy the car that you want . You buy a different one and spend more money trying to make it into the one you wanted
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i want the rear wiper
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Hmm...what is up with this Real time AWD stuff...I keep hearing about it on the Honda CRV ads..

By adapting to terrain what do you mean exactly? Is this not the same as regular AWD or something?
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the car has REAL TIME 4WD. this is different from full time 4WD like a crv has, or AWD like a wrx has.

basically, the front tires drive all the time. the ONLY time the rear tires provide any power is when the front tires completely lose traction. so no, not even when launching would you really get any 4wd/awd benefit.

so....

4wd means each wheel always gets about 25% of the power.

awd means usually one axle or the other is normally the drive axle, and a traction/slip differential system and ecu control where traction goes when the drive axle starts to slip. awd is good for traction and control on pavement. but when it comes to off-road or overall traction on slippery surfaces, 4wd is actually better than awd. however, awd technology is rapidly closing that gap.

and real time 4wd or real time awd, is actually just a FWD car that when the front wheels completely lose traction, the rear wheels kick in to try to keep the car going.

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interesting, but a waste of money IMO.
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ok u got 4WD out of that jumbo other than that what???
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lol scroll down and you'll see realtime 4wd in english.
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Originally Posted by C2i0v0i1C
ok u got 4WD out of that jumbo other than that what???
nope, thats about it Why do they have part english and part japanese
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I wish they had AWD Civc's here.... Anyway, those I believe are higher end models, which would probably sit in price near where the top of the line Civic coupe's lie.

They also have those rear arm rests found on Accords and and Lancers... they even offer them in the Philippines. I got stuck with a crappy one that's on the floor with rear passengers whining about how many cup holders I should have...

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hey i noticed the rear seats are different, theres a center arm rest and no shoulder belt in the center.
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^^ha, we noticed it at the same time.
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it would probably be great on a road course unless when the tires started slipping it cut power like other luxury cars do.
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nope, thats about it Why do they have part english and part japanese
it's because of the way your browser views the japanese web page.
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handling wise, I'm pretty sure it's still front wheel drive biased, and AWD adds a lot more weight.
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awd w/ a d17 is preety crappy but i bet it would be alot of fun w/ a type r engine
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^^^^^^ I agree with that
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good thing about living in New Zealand where its right hand drive... we get cars from Japan and no mods are needed
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Originally Posted by yche086
good thing about living in New Zealand where its right hand drive... we get cars from Japan and no mods are needed
BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
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/deport Yche

Why is it exaclty in America we get all the shafted versions of the Civics......For the amount we pay for some of these cars, I'd like to be able to say that I spent +$23,000 and got the car of my dreams...but instead I got 115 HP that could be 200 HP with quite a bit of mods....

*sigh*

For the amount I spent for my car and how much I'd have to pay to get it modded to a good amount of power, I could've gotten a BMW or a WRX

C'mon Honda...We like high end stuff too...
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I speak a little japlish when it is in english
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