Lets talk future potential
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Lets talk future potential
As I am sure many of you already know, the RSX is due for a complete makeover in either 06' or 07'. As an owner of a type S version and an owner of two previous model si's, the RSX was a good step in the direction of where Honda's sport compact segment needed to go. Where do you think, and hope they will take this next model. It is very un-typical of Honda to do a complete makeover on any vehicle line, especially one that just debuted in 2002. Will it have sh awd??? Honda needs to step up if it is to remain competitive. How would you as fans and buyers like them to improve on your future rides?
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Honda needs to become competitive with the other makes by increasing power; I would like to see Honda put more power in all Civics across the board. I would also like to see a sportshift/tiptronic/select shift for those of us who want to play with gears one day but just want to put the car in "D" and just go home the other days.
i agree with these ideas ^^^ the awd is definately a good idea but they would probably do that with the tsx first then the rsx i think (kinda like g35 sedan has it)
also i think they definately would need to rework the rsx to look nothing like the civic because so far the drawings of the 06 si looks very much like the tl,tsx, style
and maybe all around disk brakes on the civic with a brembo setup or somethin special like that on the si and rsx
maybe better options and packages available
also i think they definately would need to rework the rsx to look nothing like the civic because so far the drawings of the 06 si looks very much like the tl,tsx, style
and maybe all around disk brakes on the civic with a brembo setup or somethin special like that on the si and rsx
maybe better options and packages available
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Originally Posted by Skunk2ner
civic needs around 160 hp to stay competitive. Si needs 200+ hp.
rsx should have a awd version of the type-s available.
rsx should have a awd version of the type-s available.
that. My point is Honda knows how to make the best of it's technologies. They need to stop screwing around with us in the states and give up what we expect. We are by far more intelligent about their game than we used to be, and other manufactures are riding on the coat tails of Honda and moving ahead. To stay competitive and price conscious to all it's buyers, why not bring back the b16 that was in the previous si? Why not offer us up a stripped down hatch without all the add ons to jack up the price.One with just ac, a single cd strero, supportive cloth seats, and a few other civilities to appeal to a mass specific target audience. Honda needs to learn to cater to it's market. Offer us REAL factory performance options like some other manufactures do and not just basic suspension and wheel/ body package combos with 4k price tags. Get real Honda.
They need more factory options like scion's have, optional turbo's, sound systems wheels, leave the vp's, hx's, and hybrid's for the more economical minded buyer give the younger kids choices like stated before, i mean hey go ahead and give the cars more power and handling but give us some options to help imporve beyond that aswell. Hey if i could go down to the honda dealer and buy a ex sedan with a bose stereo and supercharger and say some honda/RH wheels in a 17 for 3.5 grand more i buy that i a tick even if the supercharger gave me 30 more hp, even mazda has step up its line of cars with the mazdaspeed line
i think the awd thing for a rsx would make the price tag jump about 6 grand in itself but that would be the ****, when i heard honda was thinking about putting a turbo in the si a year ago i was ready to trade my car in but nnooooo honda never did and never heard about since,THANKS HONDA
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Originally Posted by Danka02
i think the awd thing for a rsx would make the price tag jump about 6 grand in itself but that would be the ****, when i heard honda was thinking about putting a turbo in the si a year ago i was ready to trade my car in but nnooooo honda never did and never heard about since,THANKS HONDA
If Honda is as smart as I hope they are, the new RSX won't cost over 26k. A brand new one is right around the 23k mark, and with power needing to be closer to 230 hp, suspension already about dead on, an AWD system already seen before on previous preludes, this shouldn't be any problem. My dream for a car from them would be a mid engine layout four cylinder ( since the v6 version is worth 90 large in an NSX?? ) SIMLIAR IN SIZE, AND WEIGHT of an MRS but with more power, and way less price than an nsx!!! My buddy just got a 2000 MRS with only 30k on the odo, and he has been doing research into swapping out into a GTS motor. He claims to have found a guy on a toyota fan website who did a similiar swap, but also added a turbo and is running I want to say low 12, high 11 sec 1/4 times. I imagine with a MR setup money is the only limit in what you can do. I know I went off on a tangent, I just drank a big cup of coffee and am really tweaking now, but wouldn't it be great if Honda would offer us up a drive setup a little more friendly to luanch and control and not one so notorious for lack of traction during luanch and understeer??? Front engine front wheel drive is played, move on.
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I truly believe the Civic will move upscale. There will be another vehicle below it so the bottom of the line will already be occupied and Honda will be forced to put more content into the next gen Civic.
The next gen RSX will probably be more sporty and yet add a touch more luxery at the same time. I doubt they'll add a k24 to the RSX, but the base engine should get a power boost.
Features I'd trade in my Civic for, AWD, hell yeah! 4-wheel discs, especially if the car looks great.
The next gen RSX will probably be more sporty and yet add a touch more luxery at the same time. I doubt they'll add a k24 to the RSX, but the base engine should get a power boost.
Features I'd trade in my Civic for, AWD, hell yeah! 4-wheel discs, especially if the car looks great.
I agree. FWD needs to disappear. The fit/Jazz of whatever the are going to call it needs to come in a stripped down version weighing around 1900-2000 lbs. The civic needs a COMPLETE interior redesign, and at least 170-180 horses in the si.
Originally Posted by Danka02
i think the awd thing for a rsx would make the price tag jump about 6 grand in itself but that would be the ****, when i heard honda was thinking about putting a turbo in the si a year ago i was ready to trade my car in but nnooooo honda never did and never heard about since,THANKS HONDA
and they dont really care if their cars are slow or not selling that much, for example the nsx is been arround for almost 15 years and no mayor modificarions have been made to it the previous RL/legend (3rd generation)
was in production for 9 years straight why because it was well engineered and reliable... see the 2 flagship cars of honda dont match up to the other brands "flagships" but honda is not about having the most powerful engines or the mos current designs its about reliability and engineering
it takes time to understand why honda does things the way they do and american honda is kinda getting behind by not bringing type r's or tech features like navigation in a civic or performance computer in the ITR anyways today and tomorrow if u wanna have the car with the most hp munbers out of the factory you shouldnt consier honda....
wow this was long...
Originally Posted by CivicsRdBest
I truly believe the Civic will move upscale. There will be another vehicle below it so the bottom of the line will already be occupied and Honda will be forced to put more content into the next gen Civic.
The next gen RSX will probably be more sporty and yet add a touch more luxery at the same time. I doubt they'll add a k24 to the RSX, but the base engine should get a power boost.
Features I'd trade in my Civic for, AWD, hell yeah! 4-wheel discs, especially if the car looks great.
The next gen RSX will probably be more sporty and yet add a touch more luxery at the same time. I doubt they'll add a k24 to the RSX, but the base engine should get a power boost.
Features I'd trade in my Civic for, AWD, hell yeah! 4-wheel discs, especially if the car looks great.
sorry to disagree but honda will never make a lower scale car than the civic its tradition honda likes tradition thats why they will never make a car higher than the rl or something higher than the nsx they might make the civic more luxurious type oriented but nothing will come below it
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Rep Power: 304 I wish they came out with a Type R version of the RSX I don't mind the horsepower its the darm fatness. I am utterly amazed at the Integra Type R from the previous gen. If they could re-release that would be my next car.
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Rep Power: 346 Several versions of AWD Civics were made. I believe the last gen Integra had an AWD version, but it was immediately discontinued. AWD is not out of the picture, it is just very unlikely. I mean, it would have to trickle down from the more expensive cars for reliabilty purposes and of course to cover maintenance if anything ever goes wrong.
Originally Posted by CivicsRdBest
Several versions of AWD Civics were made. I believe the last gen Integra had an AWD version, but it was immediately discontinued. AWD is not out of the picture, it is just very unlikely. I mean, it would have to trickle down from the more expensive cars for reliabilty purposes and of course to cover maintenance if anything ever goes wrong.
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Rep Power: 288 you guys are forgeting, that by increase power/AWD means increasing fuel efficency. I think by far honda's main goal is to keep its fuel efficency while having an affoardable pricable car for an average family.
if you think about it, where does honda makes most of its money? not us the tuners, but yet the average familys that need andaffoardable realiable cheap on gas vehical.
if you think about it, where does honda makes most of its money? not us the tuners, but yet the average familys that need andaffoardable realiable cheap on gas vehical.
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Originally Posted by exclusive_vtec
you guys are forgeting, that by increase power/AWD means increasing fuel efficency. I think by far honda's main goal is to keep its fuel efficency while having an affoardable pricable car for an average family.
if you think about it, where does honda makes most of its money? not us the tuners, but yet the average familys that need andaffoardable realiable cheap on gas vehical.
if you think about it, where does honda makes most of its money? not us the tuners, but yet the average familys that need andaffoardable realiable cheap on gas vehical.
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Originally Posted by vtecpimp
Will it have sh awd???
AWD is grossly over rated and over hyped. the only time it really has any worth is in Low grip situations.
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there is only one class in SCCA autocross where AWD does well, and thats STX... and even then it still gets beat by FWD civics and RWD BMW's.
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civic = econobox. lower power, great milage, just the japanese econobox is much higher than the american econobox.
japanese cars are simple. if you don't see this, your a friggin idiot.
awd is complex.
buy an awd car wreck the drivetrain then get back to me on how much its cost to fix it over the regular 2wd.
japanese cars are simple. if you don't see this, your a friggin idiot.
awd is complex.
buy an awd car wreck the drivetrain then get back to me on how much its cost to fix it over the regular 2wd.
