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For all contests involving braking and turning, the GT-S wins big. It stops from 70 mph in only 166 feet, has the best grip on the skidpad at 0.88 g, and figuratively smoked all the others through the lane-change test at 74.3 mph. The next-best Acura managed only 71.7 mph.

According to car and driver the celi outhandles all cars in its class including the RSX type s.

 
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possibly, its a very light car too

 
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I knew this a while back so it's no surprise to me. Both the MR-2 spyder and Celica GT-S have good handling and braking. too bad theyre going bye bye.

 
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^werd, its sad :tear:

 
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i see... but i dunno....

 
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I wonder if you give both equal suspension/tire mods what the results would be?

 
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the celica is great in STS for autox. the RSX/civic chassis isn't up to snuff compared to the celica. The car gods deemed it so...

 
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The Celica is a handler, I've driven a few. I don't like the engine as much as the K20, all those moving parts in the VVTLI would scare me down the raod.

Maybe the next gen Civics and Acura's will go back to 2X A-arm suspension...

 
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i kno the 2zz is very high tech but wut do u mean by all the moving parts in the VVTLI?

 
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Both have double-wishbone suspension with independent MacPherson Struts. The new RSXs even has the advantage of wheels...215/45R17 and the celica has 205/50R16.

 
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Mazdaspeed Protege 72 mph on the slalom .89g skidpad.

 
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my friend has an 02 Celica GT

Hot Shot Headers
AEM Cold Air Intake
Cat Back Exhaust (Forgot the Brand)
Unorthadox Pulley's
Short Shifter
Lightend Fly Wheel
ACT Clutch
Coil Over's

He did have it turbo'd but he blew the motor up and had it replaced..... he was running like 4 lbs of boost and he blew away a 13.6 mustang( SOMETHING LIKE THAT I WAS THERE) that we are friends with. This thing had BALL's.. iT run's a 15.5 now

His car is fast and he does grip and have CRAZY turning abilities. I'm not a fan of the car but it does fly and grip to the ground. But yea I just had to say this =)


Oh yea.. did anyone know the intake manifold is plastic?

 
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you didnt say much

get pic's of the plastic manifold too Thanks

 
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I seen a black one yesterday that looked so smooth with a nice drop and big rims.. fine girl driving it too. So they are about to stop producing these cars???

 
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Most intake manifolds are made out of aluminum. His friend is using a plastic manifold for weight reduction.

here's what it looks like...

 
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too bad the Celica will be gone next year, and so it's MR-S.

 
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Ja... that is what it looks like exactly. It doesnt even need a gasket which is the crazy part. But yes that is what it looks like.

 
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ya but that hasent been made for awhile and I bet the new one they come out with on the ford chasis wont do that..

 
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Yes, the 2005 models are the last ones and will be discontinued. Toyota is leaving Scion to take care of the sports cars. However thats not the end of toyotas sports cars. They're currently working on a 500hp, V10 which mite be released in '06. This may be the next supra toyota's '06 supercar .

 
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one word: miata

 
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Yep I was right that manifold look's like ****

 
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Which new Ford chasis? You mean this: http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

The new Ford chasis that pulled 0.87g stock on an economy car? That one?

 
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RWD.

Wrong. The Chassis is designed by Mazda for the 3. Alot of components were also borrowed by Volvo, but Ford largely based their Focus off of Mazda's 3. The FOCUS is on a MAZDA chassis. Not to mention the 3 5 door sport pulls .86 g stock. That's without any suspension treatment. Better watch out for the mazdaspeed 3 when it comes out. The Mazda 6 V6 is the only car I can think of that uses Ford parts. Ford duratec motor. The Tribute SUV and B-series pick ups are also collaborations with Ford. The rest of the line-up including the RX-8, 3, miata, msm, msp, and 4 cyl 6's are 100% mazda.

Here's the link for info on the 3 STOCK.
http://www.modernracer.com/mazda3s.html

Next time, know what you're talking about before you go running your mouth.

 
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Nookiemonster, the C&D article I posted has it doing 0.87 stock, as for Ford parts, if I'm not mistaken, isn't the block itself a Duratec block, with all the ancilliaries being Mazda (and the odd Mitsubishi part here and there...)

 
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Not surprising, because they do sell it as a Toyota they don't have to pack as much weight as the a luxery vehicle (Acura RSX).

Good indeed.

 
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I do believe it is a ford duratec block yes, but everything internal and supporting features are all developed by Mazda. So yes you are right. The chassis is also 100% Mazda.

Just correcting ignorant remarks about the chassis. That is all.