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Old Mar 13, 2004
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^ wtf are u talking about? My neighbor has it....

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i would give my left ******** for that car
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thats the Honda Accord Euro-R ...pretty much a type r but with a turbo...the honda accord in the states is only a US production...that one u see there is the same thing as an Acura TSX but with a turbo 2.2 rather than the 3.0 v6... www.honda.co.jp check that site out and look for the accord Euro-R...its freakin awesome
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Originally posted by ragingSPAM
the honda accord in the states is only a US production
Negative.

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/i...yle/index.html
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Originally posted by ragingSPAM
thats the Honda Accord Euro-R ...pretty much a type r but with a turbo...the honda accord in the states is only a US production...that one u see there is the same thing as an Acura TSX but with a turbo 2.2 rather than the 3.0 v6... www.honda.co.jp check that site out and look for the accord Euro-R...its freakin awesome
uhhh...the Acura TSX uses a 2.4 liter 4 banger aka, K24
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Originally posted by ebound
Negative.

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/i...yle/index.html
BUT its NOT marketted as the accord....which makes his point valid...
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Originally posted by WannaBFast
BUT its NOT marketted as the accord....which makes his point valid...
werd bro...plus the accord coupe and the civic coupe in the us is only us production
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Didn't the specs say only 250 hp? Isn't the Evo 8 making 278 out of a smaller engine? That engine is barely outperforming the S2000...But Honda underestimated the latest Accord V6's output by a sizeable number when they introduced it, so we can hope they did the same for their turbo K Series and are just being modest. I hope Honda will finally build a turbocharged engine!!

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In japan they aren't competing with the EVO or STi. They are competing with the Legacy Turbo or the regular WRX.
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Honda should drop in one of those V8's (read the ClubRSX link) into a TL, and just stomp on Lexus' all day long.
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honda v8?! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA yea that will happen....
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Speaking of import v8's, the next Supra might have a 4L'ish DOHC small-block V8 w/vvti instead of a straight 6 like the Mk IV. IMO, I would like to see a v8 as an OPTION, but a six as the base engine for affordability and a V8 to silence the domestic biased. Sorry if I'm being a thread terrorist...
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they should thro the power to the rear shoes...then it would be nawwiiice.
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I'm gonna have to throw my .02 in on this one. As long as I've owned Hondas (7 years) I've always known Honda to be opposed to turbo applications in their cars. Mainly because it does not coincide with the company's current image of simple, easy, reliable, LOW MAINTENANCE cars. Typically, factory turbo charged cars usually make more trips to the service department then Honda wants to pay for out of their warranty accounts.

Honda has always prided themselves in their high flowing heads, and stout engines. Yes they can handle boost, but Honda has always used a higher compression NA setup, utilizing the VTEC valvetrain. This technology was actually inspired (believe it or not) by the HEMI engines of the 60's and 70's. They utilized hemispherical pistons to raise compression ratios and get more power out of less.

Sorry to have gone a little off topic, but honestly I think we're more likely to see an AWD V6 TSX/Accord/Inspire derivative than we are to see a turbo model from Honda. The only turbo application I've ever seen from Honda was on their F1 race car.
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k22 's are slow
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Originally posted by nookiemonster
I'm gonna have to throw my .02 in on this one. As long as I've owned Hondas (7 years) I've always known Honda to be opposed to turbo applications in their cars. Mainly because it does not coincide with the company's current image of simple, easy, reliable, LOW MAINTENANCE cars. Typically, factory turbo charged cars usually make more trips to the service department then Honda wants to pay for out of their warranty accounts.

Honda has always prided themselves in their high flowing heads, and stout engines. Yes they can handle boost, but Honda has always used a higher compression NA setup, utilizing the VTEC valvetrain. This technology was actually inspired (believe it or not) by the HEMI engines of the 60's and 70's. They utilized hemispherical pistons to raise compression ratios and get more power out of less.

Sorry to have gone a little off topic, but honestly I think we're more likely to see an AWD V6 TSX/Accord/Inspire derivative than we are to see a turbo model from Honda. The only turbo application I've ever seen from Honda was on their F1 race car.
Honda has had a turbocharged jet ski out for a while..
they also boast more horsepower than civics.
http://powersports.honda.com/watercr...lId=ARX1200T24

and...

http://powersports.honda.com/watercr...lId=ARX1200T34

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Honda's have built Turbo engines before and they do now. In japan The Dunk has a turbo 3 cylinder (I think). And also they just came out with a Accord turbo Diesel in Europe. Turbo really isn't anything new to Honda just new to Honda US.
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Heres my 2 cents, times change and markets change too

4 years ago was there a market for AWD turbocharged 4 cylinder high performance sedans in the US???

11 years ago do you think honda saw any reason to produce an SUV or minivan? Much less a truck?

This could just be a new market Honda plans on venturing into, besides nowdays saying you make a small, great MPG, reliable car doesn't make you stand out as much as it used to.
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well, judging by the hp produced... 250hp.. its most definatly running low boost.. probablly like 4-8psi

and figure that that k22 is probablly using a k20a2 head so it is pumping about 200-220hp NA... so 250 isnt too much boost.. at least thats how im figuring it, also, if it runs at low boost, it shouldnt have a problem being reliable since the turbo probablly isnt gonna be stressed at all
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turbo = good

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I think its a fake article, Why would the car have a factory hood scopp , yet no intercoller under it????????? Actually I didn't see a inter cooler on the car period, and I don't think they would put a pointless scoop on the hood. Also, The wrighting on the engine doesn't look anywhere near the font Honda usually uses on it's engine.
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Well you don't see most factory cars with intercoolers visable.

And whats the reason for a Mustang hood scoop?
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i would change my mind from the TL if this baby made it to the states....but its got to within the next two weeks...hehe
ill go with the TL for now and well see what happens
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I think its a fake article, Why would the car have a factory hood scopp , yet no intercoller under it????????? Actually I didn't see a inter cooler on the car period, and I don't think they would put a pointless scoop on the hood. Also, The wrighting on the engine doesn't look anywhere near the font Honda usually uses on it's engine.
1) Observe attached picture, that looks like a top mounted intercooler to me, although its doesn't appear in the other pics

2) Where is it written that Honda has to use the same font on all its engines? Oh, prolly same place where it says Honda can't make a turbo'd car.
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If it were to make it here it would most likly be in Acura form.
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yup!! looks like an intercooler to me...
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and one thing I find odd, reading through here, peeps wanting a v8 rwd....can we say mustang? hehe j/k I personally have always liked honda cause you can get soo much out of so little. but I'd definitely give that car a chance.
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Yeah good find... i read an article on www.templeofvtec.net about the 2.2 turbo accord I hope it gets here to the US
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