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Old Mar 4, 2004
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Good car to modify?

I was wondering what car to get thats cheap, easy to modify, and will show good numbers. my best ideas so far have been a 1st gen. eclipse. i can get one with the turbo engine for about $500, then i could get a new turbo for it and up the boost. ive heard of people running about 15-20 lbs of boost on stock internals. another idea was to go domestic and get a Chevrolet Nova body and put a 350 in it that i would build myself. anyone have any comments? other ideas? oh, i want to have a car that is a good drag and street/highway racer when needed .
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You want a good car try a 240 sx back wheel drive,
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It all depends on what your looking to do...I wanted to rebuild my own car with an engine swap, just as a project car...so, I ended up buying a '91 CRX Si for $700 with no motor and stripped so that I could do whatever I wanted to do with it...It sits in my garage parked to my 03 Civic EX Coupe, as I speak...mind you, it's not going anywhere anytime soon for obvious reasons, but I wanted to do it all on my own, to have what I wanted done to it done...what are you looking to do with the car, autocross, drag, drift, daily ricer (I mean racer), etc...once you figure this out, then people can suggest cars to you...
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Dude you were thinking right about the 1st Gen Eclipse!!!! That is what I am doing right now!! I am just waiting to find that certain one!! Good luck to ya!!
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240SX
5thgen Civic hatch
1st gen eclipse
80's - 90's Mustang
2nd gen rx7
80-83 toyota carolla and slap a rotary engine in it
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Depends on what you want to do with it... and for Drag racing, FWD is not the platform you want.
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For sure, make sure you go with a RWD for Drag...
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u should get an AE86 Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX if u can find one...or a SilEighty...or an EG6...lol too much initial D
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You'd never know this thing runs 11.80s....

Its my friend's car. Yes I've driven it, its so fast I was shaking when I got out of it.
I think the whole car was about 8-9Gs.... 6 of that was motor and drivetrain. The rest was buying the car.
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^^ that reminds me of my old car....91 formula firebird although, mine didnt do 11.80's hehe
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How much are u goin to spend on it?
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Definitely a '91 240SX hatchback. Very fun to drive, and it's RWD. Either that, or a '88-'91 RX7, though, those are pretty notorious for being unreliable.
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Ya stick with the '91 240 SX...
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seems to me the 240 sx is the popular choice these days and its a great car. but you gotta find out for yourself what you want. search some other forums, research every car, and find the one you want
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why not like a Z-51 corvette form the early 90s? They're fast allready and cheap as hell ... the 90s corvettes weren't popular so they're cheap
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thanks for all the replies. well the 240sx i looked into, but its just not what i want. and the z51 corvette is a little too expensive for what i want to do. i want to buy a car for about 500, and then build up the engine. like my 1st gen eclipse idea. i can get one with a turbo engine outa a junkyard for about 500$. then i could clean it up, rip the engine apart and reassemble it replacing any parts that need it, and then stick an aftermarket turbo on there and run massive amounts of boost. this would cost me about 2000$ and id be running 12's. my other idea was a muscle car chasis, then build an engine using ordered/junkyarded parts. and id get down to high 12's with that too. but the muscle car would be more of a long term thing, and the eclipse would be faster and cheaper at the begining. but if i go muscle car, then eventually it would be better. so pretty much im asking, should i go huge speed in the long term, or pretty big speed right now. and i want a road race/drag race car. and from what ive heard the 1st generation eclipses actually came with 4 wheel drive? is this true?
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the Talon TSi came with AWD and a turbo charged engine
and the Eclipse GSX came with AWD and a turbo charged engine
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you gotta actually gotta factor in cost of ownership and what's the car's weakness. like any eclipse you lauch hard enough....you will break the tranny....it's call drivetrain shock to the tranny. and axles they don't come cheap but they sure can fly before breaking.
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any civic hb would be good to modify, PLENTY of things you could do to it, and they can get pretty darn fast too
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Hmm...Decent road racer/drag car...I got it! The ultimate ugly but fast sleeper is the Dodge Omni from the 80's and maybe from the early 90's. It came with an optional turbo and had gobs of torque for such a small car. Or think of a Geo Storm GSI=AWD in such a light little car, just turbo it and get some good tires, and you could be turnin' @least 12's. And they handle sweet too. BTW, I love imports, but people underestimate what our older compacts are capable of and don't expect domestic econoboxes to haul ****.
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hmm get a 91-95 Toyota MR2 Turbo. You can get one relatively cheap, throw on a bigger turbo, and you have a nice Mid rear car with rear wheel drive. 3sgte has lots of potential.

speaking of potential... 2jz-gte... supra.
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get an older plymouth reliant man

http://www.thedodgegarage.com/the_reliant.html

check it out.... 10 second car in the 1/4 mile with not much work to be done to the car. I would recommend that or of course the all mighty buick grand national... grrr
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just make sure there is not a I4 in it
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whats wrong with an I4??

The Lotus Elise has one.
the BMW E30 M3 has one.
just about all of the old British roadsters have them
Most all WRC race cars have them
Tons of Spec and Formula race cars have them.

Whats so wrong with having only 4 cylinders?

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Originally posted by Zzyzx
whats wrong with an I4??

The Lotus Elise has one.
the BMW E30 M3 has one.
just about all of the old British roadsters have them
Most all WRC race cars have them
Tons of Spec and Formula race cars have them.

Whats so wrong with having only 4 cylinders?
95% of them are slow unless FI thats whats wrong with them , cant you tell every time you step on your gas pedal that you have no power?
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go DSM. they can get cheap hp gains. IMO, i wouldnt go AWD unless youre gonnda convert it to RWD. just my .02.
o, but dont count on reliability, though.
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Originally posted by sadboy916
95% of them are slow unless FI thats whats wrong with them , cant you tell every time you step on your gas pedal that you have no power?

its never bothered me, and it also hasn't stoped me from outrunning many "faster"cars.... Like the ocational Corvette, WRX, Integra, SRT-4, Porsche, BMW... Ect ect ect...

Its not how much power you have, its how you use it.
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
its never bothered me, and it also hasn't stoped me from outrunning many "faster"cars.... Like the ocational Corvette, WRX, Integra, SRT-4, Porsche, BMW... Ect ect ect...

Its not how much power you have, its how you use it.
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Originally posted by sCoTtEh
any civic hb would be good to modify, PLENTY of things you could do to it, and they can get pretty darn fast too
Thats what i would do, but i just love honda's so i'm biased
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all of these cars are great ideas guys, but they are too expensive for my purpose. like i said before, i can get an eclipse for about 500$. can i get an mr2 for that? can i get a civic hb for that? i have looked into all these more expensive options, and have decided that i dont want to spend as much money on the actual car seeing as id end up completely rebuilding it inside and out. like the eclipse, i would rip the engine apart and rebuild it. why would i want to pay lets say 10k for an mr2 to just rip the engine apart and spend another 5k rebuilding it? it would be just a bit faster then the eclipse once im done, so theres no point in wasting the extra $9000+ at the begining. so once again, does anyone have any other car ideas that are at about the price range of the 1st generation eclipse, and wont cost all that much to modify?
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