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Well I used to do this on my old 325e but here it is, Is it ok to take the shifter out of the gear without using the clutch, like when i am slowing down to a stop I am lazy to push the clutch so
is it ok in our cars to take it out of the gear without the clutch to come to a stop??? Does it screw anything up??? plz help!!

 
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it seems like that would just grund the gears then, if you are lazy you should have gotten an automatic, but just put the clutch in and save the life of your car

 
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i do that to but it doesnt seem to affect the car

 
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It won't hurt it....If it was going to affect the car. you would hear a grinding noise like when you don't press the clutch in when ENGAGING the next gear...You'll be fine

 
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In the short term aspects of things it may not put wear and tear on your clutch, however in the long term you may add premature wear and tear on you clutch resulting in buying a new one sooner. Just engage the clutch so you have no worrys later on

 
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just push the petal, your foots right there!!!

 
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He forgot to mention, he lost his left leg while serving in the army.

 
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just push the clutch in. not but 1 sec. also you will get a loud grinding and sounds like it tearing up. Just dont do it.

 
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out of gear is fine, but you can't put it into a higher gear w/o the clutch like you can on most RWD cars. Had to do that a few times when i broke the clutch cable on my mustang.

 
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If you are that lazy, you should have bought the Slush-o-matic.

 
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I wouldn't do it, because that is what it is there for. I have had a problem on my sandrail with it slipping out of gear on a hard pull. I have talked to transimssion experts and they say it is bad to take it out of gear, change gears or anything when the clutch is not pressed in. The reason is there is a little bearing that pushes out to engage and disengage the clutch, and it will put wear and heat on it. Therefore having to pull transmission to replace it from fatigue. So just push the clutch in

 
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Wow.. this is surprising. A lot of people posting to tell him how stupid he is instead of offering any real advice or info. Who would have thought...

I think it'd be ok as long as you don't feel a pop or any resistance. Sometimes if you try to take it out of gear without the clutch, you'll feel the resistance and hear/feel a pop. If it's a smooth disengage, it'd be fine.

 
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The reson I am asking is because I injured my knee very badly and wont be able to bend it all the way for another 4 or even month until the surgery, so its a bitch pushing the clutch in while I am coming to a stop or somethimes even shifting.

****ed up me knee while riding a bike, some stupid *** lady didn't see me and started to switch lanes, the retarded part is when she saw me after hiting me the dumb bitch slams on her brakes and swerves twards me, hitting me the second time. only thing i messed up is my knee cap which shattered (note she hit me 2 times) after i tucked and rolled a couple of times
i got up and had the bike brake handle with me ( I tore it off) stupid retarded lady

 
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I would recommend switching cars with someone for an auto, because it is not good to do it without the clutch. Especially coming up to a stop, etc you have to push it in to get going again then shift every gear after that, so I would say get another car for awhile. Borrow your parents or something if you dont have a friend to switch with.

 
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did you get some money from it

 
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i hope your suing that trizle. anyways i take it out of gear all the time with no resistance at all. you just have to do it at the right moment or else it doesn't slide out easily.sometimes you just have to tap on the gas just barely, but that's hardly ever.

 
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I have learned to rev match perfectly

 
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not yet, happened to to long ago, but i was fully covered so was she

 
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I wouldnt take it out of gear without he clutch, there is reason why you have to rev match to let it slide out nicely. That is why there is a clutch, just use it quit trying to find a short cut so you don't have to shift. Bottom line you own a stick, if you can't drive it with a bum leg borrow or rent an auto.

 
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you can still make a lawsuit up to a year on her i believe, cuz that is pretty F$%ked up hitting you two times.

 
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hell ya man, trade cars with someone in ur family for a while. sorry bout the knee- be thankful it wasnt worse

 
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dont have money for now!
ill charge the lady who hit me thought, have to ask the lawyer

 
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yeah, you should definately be able to get something for that

i mean 2 times?!?!

theres gotta be a law against stupidity

 
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If you are just going in to nutural, then dont worry about it. the clutch is unnessisary for that. Technichly you dont need the clutch to shift at all (Up or down). If you konw how to do it.

 
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yes i am just going into neutral

it hurts alot if i am slowing down to a stop because i am pushing the clutchdown and sometimes holding it u never know! here i just desengage it out of gear and pus the brake with my right foot. pushing it for small periods of time doesnt hurt that much

 
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No one really understands that it is not good to shift into neutral when the clutch is not engaged. And you are retarded to think it is ok to shift a car without the clutch "if you know how to do it", there is no right way to shift one with no clutch. I guess if you want to burn out the clutch, and put new gears in it then go for it. Honestly it takes 1/2 second to press the clutch in and throw it in neutral, you don't have to hold it in unless you are going to start from a stop.

 
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^^^^ Do you have any Idea how a transmission works????^^^^^

Have you ever shifted with out the clutch? Have you ever even heard of it before today?
From what you’ve typed it looks like you haven't. So here’s a quickie

Parts of the transmission and clutch and how they work together.

1.The Flywheel...... The fly wheel is directly connected to the output shaft of the engine, and is always spinning at what ever speed the engine is (RPMs)

2. The clutch (there’s lots of parts here but I'm paraphrasing).... The clutch’s job is to transfer power from the engine, through the flywheel in to the transmission. It also separates the transmission and the engine so you can come to a stop and not stall the engine.

3. The transmission (there’s lots of parts here but to but once again I'm paraphrasing).... The transmission, through a series of gears, converts Engine RPMs to wheel RPMs thus allowing you to drive at higher speeds then the engine RPMs alone would allow. Also, the Transmission is Connected, trough the differential to the wheels and is always spinning at wheel RPMs. (note that the clutch is directly attached to the transmissions input shaft so it too is spinning at wheel RPMs).

So how does all this wonderful machinery work together and make you go.

When the car is in gear and the clutch is pressing against the flywheel the engine is applying power to the wheels through the transmission. When you want to shift, normally you depress the clutch pedal; this pulls the clutch away from the flywheel stopping the engine from applying power to the transmission. Next you Shift gears (Up or down) and release the clutch, making the clutch press against the flywheel allowing the engine to apply power to the wheels. In this process, the clutch’s job is to simply stop the engine from influencing the transmission allowing the gears to change easily with in the transmission. (Now I have to get in to Detail on the transmission to clarify my point). On the transmission there is an Input shaft (attached to the clutch) and an Output shaft (Attached to the Diff and wheels). On each of these shafts are a series of gears, and another part called a Collar which is attached to the output shaft. The gears on the input and out put shaft are always connected to each other, but the gears on the output shaft are not connected to it (they are attached with bearings so they spin on the shaft) what moves and applies power to each gear is the Collar. The collar has teeth on it called the Dog Teeth. So when you make a mistake while shifting and hear that horrible grinding sound, you are not hearing the sound of the gear teeth mis-meshing (because the gears are always fully meshed). The sound is coming from the Collar and the Dogteeth trying unsuccessfully to engage the teeth on the gear you are trying to shift to. When all of these parts are connected (the car is in gear) every thing is spinning at the same RPM (not really due to gearing) when you push in the clutch (leaving the tyranny in gear) the transmission will spin at the wheel speed due to the power applied to it through the output shaft. The opposite is true if you have the clutch engaged but the tyranny is in natural (the gears in the transmission will be spinning at engine RPMs). Now for you to be able to shift gears the RPMs of the engine (Through the gearing) must match the RPMs of the collar (attached to the Output shaft so its spinning at wheel RPMs) if they don’t and you try to change gears the dog teeth will not be able to mesh with the teeth on the gear and if you apply enough pressure you will hear that Grinding sound we are all familiar with. But if the RPMs of the engine and Tyranny are equal, then the Collar will be able to mesh and you will shift gears. This concept illustrates how shifting with out the clutch can be accomplished with Minimum wear on any part (Especially no wear on the clutch).

I’m going to cut things short now, because I’m typing this at work and want to go home.

Shifting with out a clutch is very possible and if done right there is little to no extra wear on the transmission (Let alone the clutch). If done wrong then you can damage the dogteeth, witch would eventually cause you to not be able to shift in to that gear. Is shifting with out the clutch faster then with the clutch? No, it’s much slower because you have to wait for the engine RPMs to drop enough to match the Transmissions RPMs for the Dogteeth to engage.

Please know what you are talking about before you bash.

 
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Thank you. I was just about to ask him if he could (or if anyone could) explain exactly how shifting without the clutch (when there's virtually no resistance) could be bad.

And thanks for the lesson. I know a bit about the whole thing, but not that much.

 
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The only point I was making was that the chances of you always having the right rpm to shift without a clutch are slim. I was simply stating that it is a safe bet to use the clutch unless you want to do work on your transmission sooner then you would when using the clutch. When I said replacing the gears in the car, I am talking from experience on a VW transaxle, which I presume to be different from what you stated. But on the transaxle I did have to replace 2nd and 3rd gear because of misuse. And the reason I say you shouldn't shift even in neutral is because it will wear on the clutch.

 
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The last thing I wanted to mention, is it is easy to say things on here, and everyone feels that one thing is right and the other isn't. However until you have to pull a transmission yourself and do the work to rebuild it, or even just change the clutch place is a bitch, so you would save a lot of time to just use the clutch since it's there.