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Old Oct 22, 2003
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Why is this car so much more?

2003 Toyota
Celica GT - $17,905
2,425lbs
140hp
125tq

Celica GT-S - $22,570
2,425lbs
180hp
130tq

MR-2 - $25,130
2,195 lbs
138hp
125tq

The MR-2 has less power than both celicas, but is way more expensive. I assume the GT-S is faster, yes? Why is the MR-2 so much? It's 230lbs less than the celica, but does 230lbs less account for $3,000 extra?

I was thinking about getting an MR-2 (in a year or so) until I found out how little power they have for the price.

Or am I totally missing something here?
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the new mr-2 spyder?
i dunno.. looks pretty cool tho.. i'm not a fan of the whole soft top convertable thing tho..
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Dont knock the MR2 Spider too much......
Its much more manuverable then the celica... Example of this, IN SCCA Solo 2 compition, the MR2-Spider runs in C-stock where the Celica GT-s tops out at D-Stock and the Celica GT is down in G-Stock.

so as far as performance, it goes MR2-Spider, GT-s and then GT.
in a straight line the GT-s may beable to out run the MR2-Spider but get in to some corners and the MR2 is going to pounce all over it.

check out this cornering!!!




I think the idea is that you dont need horsepower if you don't have to slow down for the corners.

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Old Oct 22, 2003
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mr2s look nice on veilside kit. yummmmy.
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MR-2 does look awesome even though I don't really like convertibles. But, it might still be cool.

They used to make one that came with a turbo and one that came with a supercharger a while ago, right? Are there aftermarket turbos for the new ones now?
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Got more if you want .....
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I work for Toyota... but all i can say is... the celica is junk (not a fan)... and the Mr-2 actually suprised me on how well it got-up-and-went!! (even though they have the Corolla engine)
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I think the price difference would have to do with the fact that it's a convertible; they tend to cost more. The Mazda 6 also has more horsepower and much bigger than the Miata, but the Miata's price starts off a lot higher ($18,600 vs. $21,800).
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all 3 are girl cars
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Originally posted by mogwai
I think the price difference would have to do with the fact that it's a convertible; they tend to cost more.
Nailed it right there with the first sentence.
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MR-2's aren't girl cars. I don't think I've ever seen a girl drive one. I have seen mostly guys drive Miata. Haha Celicas are kinda girl cars but I see mostly guys driving the new ones.
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just because you see alot of guys drive them does not mean they are not girl cars lol
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IMHO The spyder looks hideous...
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the mr-2, gt-s AND gt are capable of owning us 7thgen'ers. so you get what u pay for.
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mr2 lighter and corner alot better
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As far as I know there are a few aftermarket turbo kits available for the MR-S. These kits are for the Japanese version but can be ordered through importers. Apex-i makes a kit and so does SARD.

I believe that TRD is working on either a turbo or supercharger kit. It might even be out. Too lazy to check right now. I do know TRD sells a complete suspension kit for the car and it's supposed to kick a**.

If the car wasn't the size of a shoebox I'd look into one. They look great in black, especially with the Veilside kit as someone mentioned above.
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What's MR-S? I used to know but I forgot.
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Originally posted by IronFist
What's MR-S? I used to know but I forgot.
That's just the name of the MR-2 in the rest of the world.
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I remember someone posted a linked to a video where 2 turbo Silvias and a MR-S and S2000 raced on a track.
It was supposed to be 2.0L N/A's vs. Turboed monsters.
The MR-S had a GTS engine swap.
And it OWNED the Silvias, especially on the twists and turns because it had no need to brake much. Crazy handling
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Originally posted by LiKEaFeRiO
I remember someone posted a linked to a video where 2 turbo Silvias and a MR-S and S2000 raced on a track.
It was supposed to be 2.0L N/A's vs. Turboed monsters.
The MR-S had a GTS engine swap.
And it OWNED the Silvias, especially on the twists and turns because it had no need to brake much. Crazy handling
I've got that video at home, and it's by Best Motoring iirc. I can go ahead and send it to you if you want to take a look at it again. It was crazy. The MR-S was handing the S15 it's *** in the corners, but it couldn't keep up in the straight aways. It's not all about straight-line guys -- you're going to have to turn sometime.
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You also pay extra for the rear engine rear wheel drive. I like that car a lot nice and small to drive around.
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Originally posted by Hefe
I work for Toyota... but all i can say is... the celica is junk (not a fan)... and the Mr-2 actually suprised me on how well it got-up-and-went!! (even though they have the Corolla engine)

so much for you working at toyota... the mr2 spyder is not powered by a corolla engine. itz the 1.8 lit engine. same as the one on the celica gt. corolla didnt have vvtl back in 2000
get ur facts right. mr2s is price about right for the handling it has. these car handle like a dream.
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it does not really matter if you can outhandle a car if you wanna race someone on the track or street.
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Originally posted by amhtown01
the mr-2, gt-s AND gt are capable of owning us 7thgen'ers. so you get what u pay for.

I am pretty sure a manual EX can take out an auto Celica hands down....and most likely the GTS also if its an auto
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Originally posted by sadboy916
it does not really matter if you can outhandle a car if you wanna race someone on the track or street.
Depends, I dont race on the street. and when I do go to the track it has corners.....
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yea if your into autocross its cool i guess but still if someone is revving up on me i want to be able to beat them.
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i been reading a lot of ZZYZX's posts and their really really making me want to go autocrossing. there is this giant parking lot around my neigborhood that has these lines that go left and right, i went there and tried following those lines while oging fast and its fun as hell. i'm gonna try searching for a place to autocross around philly.
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Originally posted by amhtown01
the mr-2, gt-s AND gt are capable of owning us 7thgen'ers. so you get what u pay for.
Thats funny, I beat a Celica GT.
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If you've driven one you'd know.
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the thing i like most about toyota is there tires even on there entry level cars they have good tires honda on the other hand sucks *** at tires even the si tires are very weak.
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