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I've seen this dude that owns an Eclipse referring to it as a DSM, I've never heard those initials before, whats it stand for?

 
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diamond star motorsports

 
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Is that supposed to be a club or something? They make it sound really exclusive

 
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About as exclusive as someone with a Ford F-150 slathering it with "Ford Racing Team" Nascar stickers. . . .

 
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Is there really a significant difference between an Eclipse GS & a GS-T? This dude was freaking out over people thinking his car was a GS. & then he was telling people they were stupid for not knowing what DSM was

 
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yes a huge difference. gs is non turbo, gs-t is turbo. about 60-70 horsepower difference. ya dsm owners are all about dsm and anyone who isnt part of the dsm crowd is a nobody to them. granted there are a few out there who get along with everyone, but from just being at the tracks and shows, it seems they always stick together and never venture out.

 
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Hmmmmm, sounds like "small **** syndrome" to me

 
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hahahaha

 
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Here's the link to the website http://web.umr.edu/~dws257/DSM%20Thong/

Gotta decently hot chick on there in a thong

 
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I'll have to remember that when my friend with the Evo starts feeling insecure once I bring home the STi.

 
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Lotus is coming out with that new little car in the U.S. & its only like $35,000. I'm sure it will have quit a bit of power. But everyone I've ever known that had an Eclipse has said it rattles apart real easily & they'd never buy another 1

 
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lotus isnt much better.
jus read some reviews on the lotus esprint thats already in the US market.

 
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They've got the Esprit priced up over $100,000 now, for that kind of money it better be damn good quality.

 
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a DSM is a diamond star motor, it was a joint venture between Mitsubishi and Chrysler that produced the Eagle Talon, Mitsu Eclipse, and the Plymouth Laser. It was located in Normal IL.

DSM also produced other cars such as the Dodge stealth, and its twin the mitsu 3000Gt,
In late 95 mitsu bought out chryslers share, and is now their North American home.

 
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I would never buy one again, unless i could get a hold of a cheap first gen. There do fall apart very easily, if you have a lead foot i wouldn't suggest buying one. They are expensive to maintain.

 
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Lotus has typically been in the "Power to weight ratio" camp. . . producing cars with a GOOD amount of power. . . . in a very lightweight chassis design. Looking at power figures shows them not to be overly-impressive to the untrained eye. Look at some of the curb weights, and it's easily apparent why they're fast and nimble on the track.

 
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an elise will own them ford on the track. handles like a go kart

 
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from 90-94 there was a motor plant (dsm) that made the 4g63 in the 1st gen eclipses after 94 they sold the plant to daimler-chrysler and they changed a few things in the motor such as manifold, turbo, intake and so on....keeping the call letters 4g63. so its still considereed a dsm mid 95-99 is when the "new" motors came from the new plant. they had many imperfections...... 75% of turbo 2g's crank walk at about 60k..............so thats what dsm is

 
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Yea, but the 4G63-T is one of the easiest 4 cyl. motors to mod. You can "easily" (since all the parts are readily available, just need the $), get a DSM to put out around 800 whp, with about a 10 sec 1/4. My friend has a 2G Talon, it has had two motors in it now, (its a non turbo) and he just had to replace the connecting rods and the crankshaft. But...the car does have 124,000 miles on it.

 
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tell him to get a 90-94 turbo motor...they give off more power too and can hold more boost

 
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there is an eclipse with DSM stickers on the windsheild. its about as retarted as drivng around with a banner on your cavalier that says "ecotec!" or Powered By Acura.