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I have an Injen Race Division and all I got out of it was a nice shiny tube, a better sound, and $350 dollars that isnt in my wallet now. You are kidding yourself if you think you can feel or see any performance difference from installing a CAI on a 2k1 civic. So....
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Thank you LC, that's enlightening. Sure, we have to be real about things and numbers, but being overly biased towards manual cars is just a no-no. Also, I am NOT claiming a 7-12 HP gain... I am just GUESSING those numbers. Read carefully.
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[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
I'm not COMPARING THE TWO MOTORS YOU ILLITERATE MORONS! Get that straight! I am only using the RSX-S chart as an EXAMPLE of how COLD AIR directly affects HP numbers. You guys STILL havent proven to me your claim of a one horsepower gain. Emphasis on the word STILL. [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
I'm not COMPARING THE TWO MOTORS YOU ILLITERATE MORONS! Get that straight! I am only using the RSX-S chart as an EXAMPLE of how COLD AIR directly affects HP numbers. You guys STILL havent proven to me your claim of a one horsepower gain. Emphasis on the word STILL. [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG][hr]
Nobody here has said that you lost power or anything. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
Thank you LC, that's enlightening. Sure, we have to be real about things and numbers, but being overly biased towards manual cars is just a no-no. Also, I am NOT claiming a 7-12 HP gain... I am just GUESSING those numbers. Read carefully.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
Thank you LC, that's enlightening. Sure, we have to be real about things and numbers, but being overly biased towards manual cars is just a no-no. Also, I am NOT claiming a 7-12 HP gain... I am just GUESSING those numbers. Read carefully.[hr]
So you claim AT LEAST 7hp????? STILL LAUGHABLE! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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You guys STILL havent proven to me your claim of a one horsepower gain. Emphasis on the word STILL. [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
You guys STILL havent proven to me your claim of a one horsepower gain. Emphasis on the word STILL. [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG][hr]
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Rep Power: 414 All you FEEL is the louder sound...........louder does not mean faster. My lawn mower is louder than my vic and it can't beat..............wait a minute......we are talking about the D17 engine here........yes my lawn mower can beat my vic. 
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Rep Power: 0 The general consensus of the 7thGenCivic.com forum has it that a CAI will not give you any gains, and if so, only about one horsepower. Well, look at what LC posted... an AEM CAI on a 2k1 Civic EX Auto yielded a gain of 6.6 HP. And that is still sucking in hot air behind the radiator vs the Injen where the filter is located behind the bumper. So add a couple horsepower for that.
AEM CAI GAINS of 6.6 HP
Edit: I think all of you just got owned by this document. Maybe my numbers of 7 HP ARE right afterall.... remember, the AEM is not picking up cold air... yet the Injen is... and the pipe design is quite similar... so I would think the cold air effect -- especially on a hot summer day -- would affect horsepower numbers SIGNIFICANTLY.
AEM CAI GAINS of 6.6 HP
Edit: I think all of you just got owned by this document. Maybe my numbers of 7 HP ARE right afterall.... remember, the AEM is not picking up cold air... yet the Injen is... and the pipe design is quite similar... so I would think the cold air effect -- especially on a hot summer day -- would affect horsepower numbers SIGNIFICANTLY.
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Rep Power: 414 If you think the injen gains more hp why in the reply with you hp gain listing did the AEM gain more than the Injen?
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Contradicting ourselves aren't we?
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[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
The general consensus of the 7thGenCivic.com forum has it that a CAI will not give you any gains, and if so, only about one horsepower. Well, look at what LC posted... an AEM CAI on a 2k1 Civic EX Auto yielded a gain of 6.6 HP. And that is still sucking in hot air behind the radiator vs the Injen where the filter is located behind the bumper. So add a couple horsepower for that.
AEM CAI GAINS of 6.6 HP
Edit: I think all of you just got owned by this document. Maybe my numbers of 7 HP ARE right afterall.... remember, the AEM is not picking up cold air... yet the Injen is... and the pipe design is quite similar... so I would think the cold air effect -- especially on a hot summer day -- would affect horsepower numbers SIGNIFICANTLY.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
The general consensus of the 7thGenCivic.com forum has it that a CAI will not give you any gains, and if so, only about one horsepower. Well, look at what LC posted... an AEM CAI on a 2k1 Civic EX Auto yielded a gain of 6.6 HP. And that is still sucking in hot air behind the radiator vs the Injen where the filter is located behind the bumper. So add a couple horsepower for that.
AEM CAI GAINS of 6.6 HP
Edit: I think all of you just got owned by this document. Maybe my numbers of 7 HP ARE right afterall.... remember, the AEM is not picking up cold air... yet the Injen is... and the pipe design is quite similar... so I would think the cold air effect -- especially on a hot summer day -- would affect horsepower numbers SIGNIFICANTLY.[hr]
And i seriously gained 20hp with my AEM SRI and exhaust. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 414 Oh yea........that graph looks like a real graph from a dyno.......photoshop is coming to mind.
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[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
Someone said that theres no gains for an automatic? I have an EX auto coupe.... and I DEFINITELY feel more power, and the engine revs much easier... it used to bog down and lag before, and downshifts are a lot quicker. Has anyone ran an EX Auto on a dynojet with the Injen CAI? I emailed Injen but got no response. And before you guys start flaming, I already searched every forum for an answer. Thanks.
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[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
Someone said that theres no gains for an automatic? I have an EX auto coupe.... and I DEFINITELY feel more power, and the engine revs much easier... it used to bog down and lag before, and downshifts are a lot quicker. Has anyone ran an EX Auto on a dynojet with the Injen CAI? I emailed Injen but got no response. And before you guys start flaming, I already searched every forum for an answer. Thanks.
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It downshifts quicker because you lost torque. Your enging doesn't have enough torque to pull the higher gears so it has to downshift to keep up. Having a little extra HP is only helping when you are at the high end of the RPM range.
You should have got a K&N FIPK for your automatic.
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Rep Power: 0 Hey wassup...damn...this topic is startin to become a **** talkin forum..lol...but anywayz...i think we should all show each other some respect...cuz u know..santa is startin all over on whos being naughty and whos being nice...lol...also if u are goin to look for ads for proof..y dont we all pick up the electric supercharger which claims proof of up to 20-35hp gains...u really think a company would want to put 1hp gain...another thing to think bout is..are u sure the car that aem dynoed was not highly modified...cuz that also makes a big difference
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It downshifts quicker because you lost torque. Your enging doesn't have enough torque to pull the higher gears so it has to downshift to keep up. Having a little extra HP is only helping when you are at the high end of the RPM range.
You should have got a K&N FIPK for your automatic.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Bartkat
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[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
Someone said that theres no gains for an automatic? I have an EX auto coupe.... and I DEFINITELY feel more power, and the engine revs much easier... it used to bog down and lag before, and downshifts are a lot quicker. Has anyone ran an EX Auto on a dynojet with the Injen CAI? I emailed Injen but got no response. And before you guys start flaming, I already searched every forum for an answer. Thanks.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
Someone said that theres no gains for an automatic? I have an EX auto coupe.... and I DEFINITELY feel more power, and the engine revs much easier... it used to bog down and lag before, and downshifts are a lot quicker. Has anyone ran an EX Auto on a dynojet with the Injen CAI? I emailed Injen but got no response. And before you guys start flaming, I already searched every forum for an answer. Thanks.
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It downshifts quicker because you lost torque. Your enging doesn't have enough torque to pull the higher gears so it has to downshift to keep up. Having a little extra HP is only helping when you are at the high end of the RPM range.
You should have got a K&N FIPK for your automatic.[hr]
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Bad grammar. I went over that sentence 10 times and I STILL can't comprehend what you were trying to say.
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[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
Bad grammar. I went over that sentence 10 times and I STILL can't comprehend what you were trying to say.
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Sometimes it hurts to learn the truth about our cars.
There was a time when believed those graphs... that was when i first joined like you.
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You might as well go ahead and buy this electric supercharger .... tell us how much you gained after you install it!
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I know that, arsehole, I'm just using it for my point... obviously no one fuggin made an article for our civics now, did they? Stop being so eager to flame.
edit:You're exactly right... I'm not going to believe what I read... especially from you. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: MangoEX
I know that, arsehole, I'm just using it for my point... obviously no one fuggin made an article for our civics now, did they? Stop being so eager to flame.
edit:You're exactly right... I'm not going to believe what I read... especially from you. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG][hr]
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Rep Power: 0 aite...heres something to think bout wit proof..since u like to go by websites and articles...in the feb 2002 magazine honda tuning on page 57...the articles states and i qoute " the header is a dc four into one design, and compined with the intake and the tcs exhaust, the power gain is a comfortable 5hp...if aem says that their intake is dyno proven 6hp..then...wut the hell does the exhaust and the header do..give u 0hp gain
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OMG, Mango was right all along.......look at this dyno i just found
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
OMG, Mango was right all along.......look at this dyno i just found
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Rep Power: 0 this mango guy really needs to do some better search on info.... you cant believe what you see on the net... until you run your car on a dyno dont tell everyone there wrong cause most likely there right... your friends only think your car is fast cause of the nose... to people who drive cars to get them to point A to point B tend to think that sound means speed.
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You gotta learn to accept the hard facts and go along with them...heh.
You gotta learn to accept the hard facts and go along with them...heh.
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unfortunately InJen took down the dynograph of their CAI on the 01 Civic.
know what the gains are? 2-3 hp at some point in the curve.
they put that up to compare with the AEM CAI, which had like 1-2 hp gains.
just to show that InJen's are better.
er.. yeah. 200 bucks later and you only got 2-3 hp gains.. and thats FROM THE MANUFACTURES THEMSELVES.
anyhow, if you're happy with ur intake, and u believe that a pipe and filter will do so much, then thats great.
I wish i saved the graphs, but if you search the archieve, I bet you'll find it. its straight from InJen. 2-3 hp gains.
I think I know why they took it down... its not exactly convincing to spend nearly 200 bucks for 2-3 whp.
unfortunately InJen took down the dynograph of their CAI on the 01 Civic.
know what the gains are? 2-3 hp at some point in the curve.
they put that up to compare with the AEM CAI, which had like 1-2 hp gains.
just to show that InJen's are better.
er.. yeah. 200 bucks later and you only got 2-3 hp gains.. and thats FROM THE MANUFACTURES THEMSELVES.
anyhow, if you're happy with ur intake, and u believe that a pipe and filter will do so much, then thats great.
I wish i saved the graphs, but if you search the archieve, I bet you'll find it. its straight from InJen. 2-3 hp gains.
I think I know why they took it down... its not exactly convincing to spend nearly 200 bucks for 2-3 whp.
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Dude, its an auto. You aren't gonna get as much power as a stick from an intake. You are just lying to yourself if you think AK is wrong. He knows his stuff. Even manuals only get 3 hp at the most out of an intake.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Dude, its an auto. You aren't gonna get as much power as a stick from an intake. You are just lying to yourself if you think AK is wrong. He knows his stuff. Even manuals only get 3 hp at the most out of an intake.[hr]
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You (Mango) need to give it up. When everyone around tells you that you stink and need a shower, it’s probably time to take a shower. Just admit you were wrong and get on with it.
1. Do you believe every claim for every ad you see or read? I bet you buy those dietary supplements that are supposed to make your kack bigger, huh? I mean damn, Ron Jeremy him self says they work on the infomercial!
2. Ricer Rags (i.e. Imporn Tuner, SCC, and so on) get a VAST majority of their revenue from... guess what... the people who PLACE ADVERTISMENTS in their publication. Think of it this way. Take the new AEM V2 intake. Not only is it more expensive then their previous model, they are targeting their old customers to upgrade to their new (and more expensive) part. How do they do that? By launching an ad campaign that puts a buttload of cash into the pockets of the magazine publishers. Now given that fact, do you really think that the said publications are going to turn around and give it a crappy review? Hell no. They either straight lie or make some lame excuse (well it would have made more HP then the old version, but it was hotter the day we tested the new intake and the spark plugs weren’t gaped correctly, and a monkey laid a turd on the dyno graph smearing the lines...)
3. MY car (the 99/00 Si) has B16A2, yet came with the same air box as a 99/00 civic DX. All the magazines were all over AEM's nuts because it freed up so much power and what not... guess what. clubsi.com did individual dyno testing and couldn’t get more then a 5 WHP gain... and that’s out of 5 different Sis, bought all over the country over a period of a year.
4. Until you actually dyno something your self and see the gains compared to a baseline run, you can’t quote HP figures. "Well my friends say it’s WAY more powerful. He can feel it".
No, what hes feeling is a lighter wallet while equating a much louder sounding car to a more powerful one.Now would be a good time to cut your losses. My suggestion to you is either admit defeat and say you were wrong, or just NOT post in this thread again and hope it passes through the public consciousness as it falls of the forum page.
