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yea i foudn this on another forum somewhere. theres a dyno chart for an em2 with AEM short ram intake and says it gave out 6.6 hp gain. i call bs. who is with me? http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87214
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Originally Posted by Sick Cycle
aem dyno charts are all bs.
there was a member on here that had a V2, and a few other bolt ons and had a slightly over 10WHP gain.
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Originally Posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
yes, please note those are AEM dyno charts.... they also quote the V2 gives 10WHP..... the thing with AEM dyno charts, they may be legit, but a lot of times, they test their intakes on already modified cars.... on the EP3, they tested the V2 with aftermarket header and exhaust but they never put that disclaimer there......
there was a member on here that had a V2, and a few other bolt ons and had a slightly over 10WHP gain.
there was a member on here that had a V2, and a few other bolt ons and had a slightly over 10WHP gain.
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Originally Posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
yes, please note those are AEM dyno charts.... they also quote the V2 gives 10WHP..... the thing with AEM dyno charts, they may be legit, but a lot of times, they test their intakes on already modified cars.... on the EP3, they tested the V2 with aftermarket header and exhaust but they never put that disclaimer there......
there was a member on here that had a V2, and a few other bolt ons and had a slightly over 10WHP gain.
there was a member on here that had a V2, and a few other bolt ons and had a slightly over 10WHP gain.
it must have had i/h/e/cam and a 50 shot there too
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Rep Power: 281 Sick Cycle, se7engen_riDe & doctor - as a matter of fact: all of you have aftermarket intakes. So you should have back up theory of HP gains with intakes. Otherwise why have them?
As per Dezod he has gotten HP gain of 12% from simple bolt ons.
So, whoever doesnt realise that whenever you sratt low, you cant expect big.
Meaning if you start with 200hp, then extra 12% will be 24hp. That does look good. But it still same 12%.
About 8 months ago a posted a link to an article from Sport Compact Car (?) and they had a comparison of gains from SOHC Vtec of 7th, 6th & 5th gens. All of them had more or less identical gains, may be even D17 was sligtly ahead.
In the end - there gains if you actualy try it.
There is no gains - if you just listen to others who never tried.
As per Dezod he has gotten HP gain of 12% from simple bolt ons.
So, whoever doesnt realise that whenever you sratt low, you cant expect big.
Meaning if you start with 200hp, then extra 12% will be 24hp. That does look good. But it still same 12%.
About 8 months ago a posted a link to an article from Sport Compact Car (?) and they had a comparison of gains from SOHC Vtec of 7th, 6th & 5th gens. All of them had more or less identical gains, may be even D17 was sligtly ahead.
In the end - there gains if you actualy try it.
There is no gains - if you just listen to others who never tried.
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back to stock tomorrow except exhaust 92whp?
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
Sick Cycle, se7engen_riDe & doctor - as a matter of fact: all of you have aftermarket intakes. So you should have back up theory of HP gains with intakes. Otherwise why have them?
As per Dezod he has gotten HP gain of 12% from simple bolt ons.
So, whoever doesnt realise that whenever you sratt low, you cant expect big.
Meaning if you start with 200hp, then extra 12% will be 24hp. That does look good. But it still same 12%.
About 8 months ago a posted a link to an article from Sport Compact Car (?) and they had a comparison of gains from SOHC Vtec of 7th, 6th & 5th gens. All of them had more or less identical gains, may be even D17 was sligtly ahead.
In the end - there gains if you actualy try it.
There is no gains - if you just listen to others who never tried.
As per Dezod he has gotten HP gain of 12% from simple bolt ons.
So, whoever doesnt realise that whenever you sratt low, you cant expect big.
Meaning if you start with 200hp, then extra 12% will be 24hp. That does look good. But it still same 12%.
About 8 months ago a posted a link to an article from Sport Compact Car (?) and they had a comparison of gains from SOHC Vtec of 7th, 6th & 5th gens. All of them had more or less identical gains, may be even D17 was sligtly ahead.
In the end - there gains if you actualy try it.
There is no gains - if you just listen to others who never tried.
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
Sick Cycle, se7engen_riDe & doctor - as a matter of fact: all of you have aftermarket intakes. So you should have back up theory of HP gains with intakes. Otherwise why have them?
As per Dezod he has gotten HP gain of 12% from simple bolt ons.
So, whoever doesnt realise that whenever you sratt low, you cant expect big.
Meaning if you start with 200hp, then extra 12% will be 24hp. That does look good. But it still same 12%.
About 8 months ago a posted a link to an article from Sport Compact Car (?) and they had a comparison of gains from SOHC Vtec of 7th, 6th & 5th gens. All of them had more or less identical gains, may be even D17 was sligtly ahead.
In the end - there gains if you actualy try it.
There is no gains - if you just listen to others who never tried.
As per Dezod he has gotten HP gain of 12% from simple bolt ons.
So, whoever doesnt realise that whenever you sratt low, you cant expect big.
Meaning if you start with 200hp, then extra 12% will be 24hp. That does look good. But it still same 12%.
About 8 months ago a posted a link to an article from Sport Compact Car (?) and they had a comparison of gains from SOHC Vtec of 7th, 6th & 5th gens. All of them had more or less identical gains, may be even D17 was sligtly ahead.
In the end - there gains if you actualy try it.
There is no gains - if you just listen to others who never tried.
and also i got a good deal on my aem short ram. couldnt just let that pass by me. 
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Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
Sick Cycle, se7engen_riDe & doctor - as a matter of fact: all of you have aftermarket intakes. So you should have back up theory of HP gains with intakes. Otherwise why have them?
As per Dezod he has gotten HP gain of 12% from simple bolt ons.
So, whoever doesnt realise that whenever you sratt low, you cant expect big.
Meaning if you start with 200hp, then extra 12% will be 24hp. That does look good. But it still same 12%.
About 8 months ago a posted a link to an article from Sport Compact Car (?) and they had a comparison of gains from SOHC Vtec of 7th, 6th & 5th gens. All of them had more or less identical gains, may be even D17 was sligtly ahead.
In the end - there gains if you actualy try it.
There is no gains - if you just listen to others who never tried.
Sick Cycle, se7engen_riDe & doctor - as a matter of fact: all of you have aftermarket intakes. So you should have back up theory of HP gains with intakes. Otherwise why have them?
As per Dezod he has gotten HP gain of 12% from simple bolt ons.
So, whoever doesnt realise that whenever you sratt low, you cant expect big.
Meaning if you start with 200hp, then extra 12% will be 24hp. That does look good. But it still same 12%.
About 8 months ago a posted a link to an article from Sport Compact Car (?) and they had a comparison of gains from SOHC Vtec of 7th, 6th & 5th gens. All of them had more or less identical gains, may be even D17 was sligtly ahead.
In the end - there gains if you actualy try it.
There is no gains - if you just listen to others who never tried.
Actually, I dont have one, and this is due to years of reading the results of the people who did get one and made some good increase in noise.
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Rep Power: 281 I was dyno'd at 113whp stock on my EL.
I see a classic case os someone who has installed bolt on parts randomly and expected hp gais "as advertised".
Parts need to work together to provide best output. It requires a lot of time and of resources.
Unfourtunately modern civics are not so popular with performance firms, so parts are not tested by magasines and many part sellers will take advantage of a consumer by false advertising.
With finely matched bolt ons, intake, header & cat back exhaust you can easy expect 10% gain over stock, which is good.
That is why you dont look into hp gain, but you need to look into % gain to see a full picture.
Also to compare it is recomended to have base dyno run done.
MY dyno was sad. Iceman intake, HP shorty header, megan downpipe, Dc5r exhaust = 115whp there was no previous dyno to see the gain but i'm sure no more then 10whp.
Parts need to work together to provide best output. It requires a lot of time and of resources.
Unfourtunately modern civics are not so popular with performance firms, so parts are not tested by magasines and many part sellers will take advantage of a consumer by false advertising.
With finely matched bolt ons, intake, header & cat back exhaust you can easy expect 10% gain over stock, which is good.
That is why you dont look into hp gain, but you need to look into % gain to see a full picture.
Also to compare it is recomended to have base dyno run done.
Last edited by 03-Acura-1.7-EL; Dec 14, 2005 at 08:53 AM.
Originally Posted by 03-Acura-1.7-EL
I was dyno'd at 113whp stock on my EL.
I see a classic case os someone who has installed bolt on parts randomly and expected hp gais "as advertised".
Parts need to work together to provide best output. It requires a lot of time and of resources.
Unfourtunately modern civics are not so popular with performance firms, so parts are not tested by magasines and many part sellers will take advantage of a consumer by false advertising.
With finely matched bolt ons, intake, header & cat back exhaust you can easy expect 10% gain over stock, which is good.
That is why you dont look into hp gain, but you need to look into % gain to see a full picture.
Also to compare it is recomended to have base dyno run done.
I see a classic case os someone who has installed bolt on parts randomly and expected hp gais "as advertised".
Parts need to work together to provide best output. It requires a lot of time and of resources.
Unfourtunately modern civics are not so popular with performance firms, so parts are not tested by magasines and many part sellers will take advantage of a consumer by false advertising.
With finely matched bolt ons, intake, header & cat back exhaust you can easy expect 10% gain over stock, which is good.
That is why you dont look into hp gain, but you need to look into % gain to see a full picture.
Also to compare it is recomended to have base dyno run done.
Ahh...... I see the classic case of someone assuming things. I knew full well that I wasn't going to get any gains. Yes MAYBE there is a better combination out there for gains but I'm not gonna spend my money and wasting my time to go and find that perfect combination. Certainly not for 10% and IMO that's even pushing it. BTW different dynos and different conditions lead to different results. Everyone knows with that $1000 spent on boltons your better off getting a turbo. Too bad I never had a baseline dyno to really see the actual gains.
Next time don't ASSUME you know what I was doing or what I was thinking.
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Rep Power: 281 ^^You were the one who assumed. If you're another non-beliver into improvement, tell me why whould you have following mods in your car???
Engine/Performance Modifications:
Custom 2.25 inch piping with DC5R muffler
Iceman intake
HP shorty Header
Megan Racing Hi flow cat/resonator
Is is beacause you like improved sound of you engine??
Or you were thinking about more power??
If you are after the power, then congrats, as you say you just wasted $$ money, means you did not do reasearch ahead of time and YOU assumed, you will get gains by putting this mods on to your car. As I said above - Classic case and you are a victim of it. Can happen to anyone, no offence.
So what gains did you get with your upgrades??
Then why are you bashing someone who has obviously done more then you are??
If you will reasearch further, you will se that I've posted dynos before and after turbo, so I do things on my end and can support'em with facts. Where you, because you have a funny picture and want to express yourself, making useless comments.
So, in the future just be a little careful of how you use public space, be nice to people and respect what they say, because peson next to you may be one who can help you get things straight.
So, just to confirm your point with picture: Yes, you need to think before you say something stupid.
Engine/Performance Modifications:
Custom 2.25 inch piping with DC5R muffler
Iceman intake
HP shorty Header
Megan Racing Hi flow cat/resonator
Is is beacause you like improved sound of you engine??
Or you were thinking about more power??
If you are after the power, then congrats, as you say you just wasted $$ money, means you did not do reasearch ahead of time and YOU assumed, you will get gains by putting this mods on to your car. As I said above - Classic case and you are a victim of it. Can happen to anyone, no offence.
So what gains did you get with your upgrades??
Then why are you bashing someone who has obviously done more then you are??
If you will reasearch further, you will se that I've posted dynos before and after turbo, so I do things on my end and can support'em with facts. Where you, because you have a funny picture and want to express yourself, making useless comments.
So, in the future just be a little careful of how you use public space, be nice to people and respect what they say, because peson next to you may be one who can help you get things straight.
So, just to confirm your point with picture: Yes, you need to think before you say something stupid.
Last edited by 03-Acura-1.7-EL; Dec 14, 2005 at 04:58 PM.
haha.... spewing what i just said back at me does not make you not guilty of asssuming things. you're still assuming you know what i was thinking when i got my bolt ons. You are a classic case of an idiot.
the iceman intake - how many people have them?.....ahhh 2 of us. i wanted to try something different and test my luck.
HP header - dirt cheap on ebay
Dc5r exhaust - stock looking and has a valve in the muffler to help out performance
Hi flow cat - to compliment the rest of the I/H/E
My goal? to have some fun and slightly improve performance with very limited budget. I knew full well there was little to be had. I just regret not having a baseline dyno to see the true gains.
So, in the future YOU should be a little careful of how you use public space, and **** off because trying to make it look like you know what people were doing and thinking is idiotic.
So, just to confirm MY point with the picture: Yes, YOU AGAIN need to think before you say something stupid.
the iceman intake - how many people have them?.....ahhh 2 of us. i wanted to try something different and test my luck.
HP header - dirt cheap on ebay
Dc5r exhaust - stock looking and has a valve in the muffler to help out performance
Hi flow cat - to compliment the rest of the I/H/E
My goal? to have some fun and slightly improve performance with very limited budget. I knew full well there was little to be had. I just regret not having a baseline dyno to see the true gains.
So, in the future YOU should be a little careful of how you use public space, and **** off because trying to make it look like you know what people were doing and thinking is idiotic.
So, just to confirm MY point with the picture: Yes, YOU AGAIN need to think before you say something stupid.
If I helped you, rep me with points, you wont regret.
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Rep Power: 281 Very well done! Congrats to you.
Whenver someone has nothing relevent to say they will give abuse to one they want to put down.
Yes a picture worth a thousand words, but it just show who you are, also with your next post when you started using "names", its just proved further of who you actualy are. I realy want to thing otherwise of you, but its all depends only of you.
For the future reference, have your subjects prepared, so everyone benefits.
Whenver someone has nothing relevent to say they will give abuse to one they want to put down.
Yes a picture worth a thousand words, but it just show who you are, also with your next post when you started using "names", its just proved further of who you actualy are. I realy want to thing otherwise of you, but its all depends only of you.
For the future reference, have your subjects prepared, so everyone benefits.
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Rep Power: 812 do you have a turbo? lets see i have been through 3 intakes, two headers, a pnp head that has now ruined my car, all for 10whp and thousands of $$. Tomorrow the only thing on the car will be the exhaust (for looks) and ported tb. If i could go back in time, i would have left it stock.
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boltons do wonders for me.
depending on what you're looking for, I don't think they are a waste for a d17.
I've been through quite a few intakes myself when I had a d17...
ebay cai, aem cai, fipk2, ebay sri, injen cai.
in my opinion, the aem cai was the best. short rams are a waste of money.
boltons do wonders for me.
depending on what you're looking for, I don't think they are a waste for a d17.
I've been through quite a few intakes myself when I had a d17...
ebay cai, aem cai, fipk2, ebay sri, injen cai.
in my opinion, the aem cai was the best. short rams are a waste of money.
