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Old 07-09-2005
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Question so who all is rocking a new d17a2 crower cam

I'm seriously considering at least a stage one cam I was just looking for some feedback on those of you who've allready had one installed. Yeah, i posted this up on CC also.

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I will be soon. I've got the stage 2 turbo cam and spring/retainer kit sitting in front of me right now. I'm just waiting for Exospeed to get done with my EX head. They should be done Friday. Then it's install and dyno time. I really need a return fuel system now.
I'm very pleased with the quality of the Crower stuff. It all looks top notch. Also, I think Exospeed is going to do a really good job. They were saying that they would really like to do more for the D17 but that they haven't had many people interested in their services for our application yet. He said they can currently build any type of D17 you want.
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agreed ... is it me or does it seem like nobody has this?...

I remember everyone was pushing for a company to make a cam ... now that they have one, nobody is jumping on it .. (or very few)
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i think i'm just gonna go for a stage one because i'm still torn on what I'm going to do down the road. i'm still on the edge between spoolin' or sprayin'...all though the idea of a civic that lopes a little while idling is very appealing.
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how much do they cost around? Im jsut a little curious
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how much do they cost around? Im jsut a little curious
All Stages 2+ require Valvespring + Retainer set

Crower Stage 1: $379
Crower Stage 2 Turbo Spec: $379
Crower Stage 2 NA Spec: $379
Crower Stage 3 Race Spec: $379
Crower Valvespring + Retainer Set: $302
Crower Rods: $699
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too much money thats why
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with that much money to buy it then labor added to it(if someone pro does it) will cost as much or half as much(might b a lil exagerated) as a turbo.
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Originally Posted by Drk01Civic
I will be soon. I've got the stage 2 turbo cam and spring/retainer kit sitting in front of me right now. I'm just waiting for Exospeed to get done with my EX head. They should be done Friday. Then it's install and dyno time. I really need a return fuel system now.
I'm very pleased with the quality of the Crower stuff. It all looks top notch. Also, I think Exospeed is going to do a really good job. They were saying that they would really like to do more for the D17 but that they haven't had many people interested in their services for our application yet. He said they can currently build any type of D17 you want.
What are they doing to your head and how much?
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is it hard to instal a cam by yourself?
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I had some setbacks that delayed the cam for me. all in one night of racing I found out I needed 4 new tires, my clutch started to slip , and I broke a lug. well once I put in the clutch, install some arp wheel studs, finish the tires, get aligned I may dyno for a before and after then install the cam and springsand tune. I am sure glad I have 2 cars. my pocket hurts
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Originally Posted by Hwoody77
What are they doing to your head and how much?

Port, polish, valve job, resurface, hot tank, etc. All the normal headwork. They're charging me $650. I checked a couple other places locally and that was an average price. I hear Exospeed is one of the best when it comes to SOHC Hondas. I'll find out for sure soon.
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make sure to post picks of thier port work. thats not a bad price at all.
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Originally Posted by djmota
make sure to post picks of thier port work. thats not a bad price at all.

Yeah, I'm going to take a bunch of pictures and post the dyno sheet too. I'm still runnning the stock fuel pump, which worries me. I want to do a return conversion but I won't have the money for a couple months. I may just replace the in-tank pump right now and then do the rest of the conversion in a month or so when I have the cash.
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Originally Posted by djmota
I had some setbacks that delayed the cam for me. all in one night of racing I found out I needed 4 new tires, my clutch started to slip , and I broke a lug. well once I put in the clutch, install some arp wheel studs, finish the tires, get aligned I may dyno for a before and after then install the cam and springsand tune. I am sure glad I have 2 cars. my pocket hurts
having two cars would be nice. sorry to hear about your misfortune. i hope you got a better clutch this time.
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Is this cam a regrind or a acual cam manufactured from crower?
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the cam is a new manufactured unit from crower.
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stage 3 sounds hella sick. but is it ONLY for drag race? would it be good for track days? u know they have those hondas that rev up high. =)
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Originally Posted by Drk01Civic
Port, polish, valve job, resurface, hot tank, etc. All the normal headwork. They're charging me $650. I checked a couple other places locally and that was an average price. I hear Exospeed is one of the best when it comes to SOHC Hondas. I'll find out for sure soon.
Where's exospeed in the AV?
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They're in Glendale. I talked to them Friday and they said it would be done on Wednesday. So two more days now.
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How hard would it be to install the cam and springs yourself? And, what sort of other tuning would need to be done besides resetting the ecu?
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Originally Posted by ManUtd0018
How hard would it be to install the cam and springs yourself? And, what sort of other tuning would need to be done besides resetting the ecu?

I don't think install is going to be that bad. I've never done it before but I know some people that are knowledgeable in case I get stuck. I borrowed a valve spring install/removal tool which I've heard can save a little time and headache as well. Hopefully, I'll be able to tell you exactly how hard it is after this weekend.
Tuning really depends on each individuals setup. I am going to have my A/F ratio checked on a dyno and then have my Emanage maps trimmed accordingly. After that I may reprogram my boost control settings on the E0-1 to see if I can improve boost response.
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Originally Posted by Drk01Civic
I don't think install is going to be that bad. I've never done it before but I know some people that are knowledgeable in case I get stuck. I borrowed a valve spring install/removal tool which I've heard can save a little time and headache as well. Hopefully, I'll be able to tell you exactly how hard it is after this weekend.
Tuning really depends on each individuals setup. I am going to have my A/F ratio checked on a dyno and then have my Emanage maps trimmed accordingly. After that I may reprogram my boost control settings on the E0-1 to see if I can improve boost response.
Tell us how hard it was to instal the camshaft alone. if it was fairly easy enough then i will probably buy me a stage1 N/A cam.
BTW, after i instal the camshaft, i need to take my car somewhere to get it dyno tuned right?
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clutch and studs first, cam and springs later.
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^ unlike everyone else who has it, you're gonna dyno it, right?
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the plan is to do the clutch and studs, first dirve it around a bit break in the clutch, then baseline dyno it all motor and n2o. then install the cam and springs retune and dyno once more. I hope it works out that way. at the very least there will be a dyno after the cam install.
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Originally Posted by se7engen_riDe
Tell us how hard it was to instal the camshaft alone. if it was fairly easy enough then i will probably buy me a stage1 N/A cam.
BTW, after i instal the camshaft, i need to take my car somewhere to get it dyno tuned right?

Well, take your car to get tuned if you actually have something to tune with (i.e. VAFC, Emanage, EMS). Otherwise, a dyno will just show you A/F ratio readings and power output.
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I think Crower's spec sheet says that dyno tuning isn't necessary with stage 1 and 2 setups. I'm a big proponent for dyno tuning, though. Buying some type of engine management, whether it be piggyback or standalone, and having your car dyno tuned allows you to pull more power out of whatever setup you're running.


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