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Old Feb 18, 2005
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Iceman Vs. FIPK

Well the I finally recieved and installed the iceman intake. First the pics (sorry about the shitty pics, my mini dv camera sucks at taking pics):












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so how does it feel?
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Exclamation The review comparision....

*Disclaimer: This review is only an opinion. I'm no expert so take my 2 cents with a grain of salt. Don't go out and buy this expecting what I said and then being dissapointed. There's NO dyno numbers to prove any gains just the usual butt dyno.*

Well in a week i went from having a FIPK installed, to stock airbox without the resonator, to iceman intake. The FIPK added throttle responsiveness throught most of the powerband (not much but enough for the butt dyno to feel). The higher RPMs you could feel that's where the FIPK made the most difference. The iceman at first was pretty similar to the FIPK at first but after some cruising on the highway the ECU seemed to adjust. From a stop the iceman seems to give some nice torque increase throughout the powerband. Just as czechcivic stated when he got his. The car seems to pull a lot harder. In the higher RPM range i'd say the Iceman and the FIPK are about the same. I'd say, just a guess, the Iceman adds about... no dyno..... but definitely increases the torque by quite a bit compared to stock. Most of this torque is in the low-mid range but it also doesn't seem to die as you hit the higher RPMs. I'll add more to the review as i drive it for a bit. Any questions just ask. Oh and don't forget to pass some rep points for taking the time to take pics and reviewing the two intakes.

*EDIT: ok the Iceman obviously doesn't gain 7-8hp, i must be getting retarded. It has a bigger torque gain then the FIPK so maybe that's where i came to my assumption. Anyways this don't mean **** without a dyno.

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Oh and the only faults against the Iceman were relocating the fuse box and the valve hose is too short. The fuse box took a while to figure out where to put it. I have to go to the hardware store and get a new longer valve hose since the one supplied was about an inch and a half too short.

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sweet. maybe if i go back to having an intake i'll get this.
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Is there a diff. Between the FIPK and a FIPKII?
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[QUOTE=kornsined]The car seems to pull a lot harder. In the higher RPM range i'd say the Iceman and the FIPK are about the same. I'd say, just a guess, the Iceman adds about 7-8hp and definitely increases the torque by quite a bit compared to stock.[QUOTE]


7-8hp?, you're driving around w. a D17 under the hood right, not a K20? I was under the impression that intakes for the D17 usually made roughly about half that much.
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Oh, is that the impression you were under? J/K You saw the pics, it's a D17.
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Honestly... there's no way you could gain 7-8hp from an intake. 3-4 is more reasonable.
Anyways, thanks for the pics and review! One thing you left out was sound... how is it? Is it louder then the FIPK or quieter?
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Originally Posted by kornsined
...the Iceman adds about 7-8hp and definitely increases the torque by quite a bit compared to stock. Most of this torque is in the low-mid range but it also doesn't seem to die as you hit the higher RPMs.

i think that may be an overstatement...hell some even say 3-4 may be an overstatement, if you have confident hp numbers than you should've had confident torque numbers too id assume, butt dynos can me a lil misleading id think
but IMO i dont like the looks of it not very catching to the eye, but if it performs so much better maybe it would be worth it.....and yea how is the sound?
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ok whatever guys it was a guess, it just pulls better then the FIPK. They claim (FIPK) 4.5max gain. I'm just saying the Iceman pulls a little better. Of course a dyno is the only way to know. Plus i was half a sleep when righting this **** up too. As for sound it seems louder then the FIPK and just as good. ALSO a big plus, the iceman has a 5 year warranty. Not sure what AEM or Injen have for warranties but 5 years seems pretty good.
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Any pics of where you ended up placing the fuse box? That seems like it'd be a serious issue for most people. How was your experience?
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finally some posted pics of that thing
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Yeah it was kinda of shitty to find a place where you could tie it up and still be accesible to it.

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Nice intake! When did they release this one? How much was it?
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You should get a heat shield fabricated for that cone filter.

Thanks for the post!
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Originally Posted by maxtierney
You should get a heat shield fabricated for that cone filter.

Thanks for the post!
i dont think it needs one. the placement is where the stock one was. he'll get enough cold air getting to it.
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well, with the little power our cars have, 3-4 whp gain can feel like 10 whp
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did the intake come with instructions on where they expect you to put the fuse box... seems like it would be a lil too important a part for them to just ignore
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Originally Posted by JCiv03
Nice intake! When did they release this one? How much was it?
they released it a while ago. i got mine at importrp.com cost me $220 shipped. probably cheaper for people in the states.
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did the intake come with instructions on where they expect you to put the fuse box... seems like it would be a lil too important a part for them to just ignore
unfortunately they just stated "tie fuse box low and out of the way of the intake". zip ties included but really what else can they give you to tie up the fusebox. not unless they make a custom braket (which would drive up cost) zip ties will have to do. not really a show car intake. instructions as a whole are so so. If i was a noob i'd be confused. FIPK's instructions are far more detailed.
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i dont think it needs one. the placement is where the stock one was. he'll get enough cold air getting to it.
I agree with you, however, if you box it off from the rest of the engine compartment and the radiant/convective heat, you would be providing (theoretically) more cool air. Just my $.02. Shouln't be too hard or expensive to do. Every little bit helps, especially with our anemic D17.
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Originally Posted by kornsined
unfortunately they just stated "tie fuse box low and out of the way of the intake". zip ties included but really what else can they give you to tie up the fusebox. not unless they make a custom braket (which would drive up cost) zip ties will have to do. not really a show car intake. instructions as a whole are so so. If i was a noob i'd be confused. FIPK's instructions are far more detailed.

Eh the zip ties work fine.......I mounted the fuse box in just about the same place but mine goes from where yours is mounted to next to the radiator hose....Facng upward toward the hood.....Not sure if you get what I mean....But yeah tis is not the prettyist intake for our cars.....But I believe it just may be the best

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took it out for another spin. yeah feels nicer then the FIPK. The only spot i think the FIPK is a little better is on the highway but not by much. Let's say you going 100KM/h in 5th and mash on the gas the FIPK picks up a little bit quicker.
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
well, with the little power our cars have, 3-4 whp gain can feel like 10 whp
haha...

Originally Posted by kornsined
took it out for another spin. yeah feels nicer then the FIPK. The only spot i think the FIPK is a little better is on the highway but not by much. Let's say you going 100KM/h in 5th and mash on the gas the FIPK picks up a little bit quicker.
Mm... that 5th gear accelaration is pretty important to some of us. Seems like youre happy so
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haha...


Mm... that 5th gear accelaration is pretty important to some of us. Seems like youre happy so
well it's still better then stock just not as good as the FIPK. plus that's what downshifting is for
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Originally Posted by maxtierney
You should get a heat shield fabricated for that cone filter.

Thanks for the post!
very good hint, i had a heatshield too and iceman bottom end was strong..

looks like ---->http://www.striklykustom.com/images/...learFilter.jpg
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how good are ractive filters at actually filtering out garbage? that would be my only concern.
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well it's still better then stock just not as good as the FIPK. plus that's what downshifting is for
haha... good point! but damn, sometimes I'm so lazy to move that left leg.... and dont get those ractive or weapon R (or those brand filters). My cousin had bought this $20 filter from e-bay, it looked nice and all, but just looking at it, I could see the other side of the room not even holding the thing at the light... needless to say, it's just sitting in my brother's room.
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was that on the bottom of the filter???? i dont remember seeing that part..... Maybe I just missed it.?.?.,?.......

http://www.7thgencivic.com/memberrid...9AFEfilter.jpg
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