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Hey everyone,

I might need to sell my new SF turbo system before I even get to install it, so I was wondering if someone might be ablw to tell me what hp I can get from just the following mods properly tuned with e-manage:

Besides the usual I/H/E/ Hi flow cat, I have the following to install now:

P&P head, 74mm TB, Custom Intake Manifold with RSX Injectors, CAM shaft, UR Crank Pulley, Lightened flywheel.

Will I be able to get at least 160Hp at the wheels if I get it tuned properly?

If I can get that much, I might just sell the turbo and just go all motor!

But if I keep turbo, what hp numbers could I get at around 8psi? I have the upgraded turbo, equal legnth manifold, alch injection in my kit.

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if your going all motor without turbo i think the p&p head and throttle body might actually make you lose power on the d17 from what others have used.. i think they are recommended for turbo applications. just turbo that ****!!!
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i doubt your gonna make it to 160whp all motor with that. im thinking maybe 140whp max
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why might u sell ur turbo? i bleieve u get close to 200whp at 8 psi, am i correct? You should just keep the turbo and install it since u already have it. unless u need the money that is
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I am gonna say 140 ish to the wheels NA horse power does not come easily.
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Def go with the boost.
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74mm is WAYYY too big unless you have FULL RACE motor.

tuned properly, you may get 160 whp MAX ... but yes, you are better off going turbo. Careful not to boost too much ;P
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I don't think that you will go above 140 unless you raise the comp. significantly. Unless you raise the compression the throttle body and intake mani. are overkill for a NA engine
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just boost dailly at 5psi...and ull be happy with 190whp ish
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i don;t think he want the spool up time. just wants that NA all power all the time feel
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If you're lucky, those mods will give 140whp like a stock Si. A member here dynoed at 135whp with something similar, but his pnp/valve job was very well done. Not like the stupid Dh one.
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Originally Posted by Civic_Racer9
just boost dailly at 5psi...and ull be happy with 190whp ish
i dont think your getting 190 from a SF stage 1 kit running 5psi..
you get around 183-5 at 8psi on a stock block.
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What's PnP?
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Canadian: You ACTUALLY got your Custom Manifold from DHR?
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
74mm is WAYYY too big unless you have FULL RACE motor.

tuned properly, you may get 160 whp MAX ... but yes, you are better off going turbo. Careful not to boost too much ;P

74mm Too big? I have a stock block, but I will put in a block guard when I put on the head, but could I dammage my motor with this larger Throttle Body?

No, I still don't have my intake manifold, hopefully next week.

I was expecting more that 190hp @ 8psi if I decide to install the turbo with these other upgrades too!

I am not in a pinch for money, but I have decided to go back to University for another 3 years starting in September, in a small town in Ontario called Thunder Bay (pop 120,000) - Lakehead University. Not working for 3 years will eat up most of my savings too, so I can put that 'first house' idea out of my mind.

It gets super cold there, and I doubt that there is a proper tuning shop with a dyno that I can get my stuff installed at & tuned properly? Can someone (like me) dyno tune on an e-manage without any prior training?
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60mm should be the largest bore for the D-series. I don't know, but bigger probably won't hurn the engine. It will just let more air in, and may slow down the velocity.

If your head is milled at all, using a turbo is a BAD idea as you probably know. Mine was milled 1mm and now the car shakes at idle (low rpms). That's way too much even for NA.
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Originally Posted by HELP_ME
What's PnP?
port and polish
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if your against Boost, try N2O, it werks fer me !
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Well my Head is not milled, and I have the choice of stock or 74mm TB, what should I go with?

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60mm should be the largest bore for the D-series. I don't know, but bigger probably won't hurn the engine. It will just let more air in, and may slow down the velocity.

If your head is milled at all, using a turbo is a BAD idea as you probably know. Mine was milled 1mm and now the car shakes at idle (low rpms). That's way too much even for NA.
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I would rather swap with an RSX-Type S then turbo my civic......If something goes wrong with the Type S.....you got a back up engine...if u turbo something and ruin it....u got crap
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I'm sending my TB to www.maxbore.com in a few weeks. Comes highly recommended and the work looks good. Not that much of a bore, and you keep all the sensors and cruise control. Comes with a new butterfly valve and reset tps to factory specs.
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I have a 2001 dx and the guys at my local speed shop said i would blow my engine running a turbo on a lightly modified dx. Any comments?
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Originally Posted by gearbox
I'm sending my TB to www.maxbore.com in a few weeks. Comes highly recommended and the work looks good. Not that much of a bore, and you keep all the sensors and cruise control. Comes with a new butterfly valve and reset tps to factory specs.
Sounds good, how much will they be boring it to? What was the stock size again?

I can't do that though, too much down time. DO they have a swap program?
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Originally Posted by SpeedFreak
I have a 2001 dx and the guys at my local speed shop said i would blow my engine running a turbo on a lightly modified dx. Any comments?
What type of mods?

Don't go over 10psi, use alch inj!
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Just a intake exhaust and hopefully headers i was only plannin to run it at 8 psi.
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Should be fine!
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Did you read the page? They bore to a max of 60mm, and it only takes them one day to do it and send back. So you're just waiting for shipping time. Won't be more than two weeks if that.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Did you read the page? They bore to a max of 60mm, and it only takes them one day to do it and send back. So you're just waiting for shipping time. Won't be more than two weeks if that.

Yep, I am reading everything here, musta missed that though.

But what is the stock TB size?

How much for the 60mm bore from them?
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Well is says at the top in huge writing, $100. I think you pay shipping to, and they pay shipping back.
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