whens the next meet in AZ gonna be?
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[hr]Originally posted by: Essa
RBABE, I have an opened schedule. Just name the time and place, most likely I'll be there[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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[hr]Originally posted by: Essa
RBABE, I have an opened schedule. Just name the time and place, most likely I'll be there[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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I THINK WE ARE AIMING AT THE 13TH OF JULY RIGHT NOW!!! WE just need everyone else to confirm that date and decide on a location!
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hey all.. the marks came out with ease. i just used some tar and wax remover and it got it all off. so it is all good, i also got the rest of my cat-back on my car on wed. so i am happy. i was thinkin for the loc there is this school right by my house and since it is summer the parking lot is always empty and it has lights, so we can see. or we could try the new place that everyone was getting flyers for the replaced lot 59.
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[hr]Originally posted by: IllusiveImports
hey all.. the marks came out with ease. i just used some tar and wax remover and it got it all off. so it is all good, i also got the rest of my cat-back on my car on wed. so i am happy. i was thinkin for the loc there is this school right by my house and since it is summer the parking lot is always empty and it has lights, so we can see. or we could try the new place that everyone was getting flyers for the replaced lot 59.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: IllusiveImports
hey all.. the marks came out with ease. i just used some tar and wax remover and it got it all off. so it is all good, i also got the rest of my cat-back on my car on wed. so i am happy. i was thinkin for the loc there is this school right by my house and since it is summer the parking lot is always empty and it has lights, so we can see. or we could try the new place that everyone was getting flyers for the replaced lot 59.[hr]
Eric-so glad to hear about your ride now being mark free and now having a complete cat-back exhaust on! What kind of cat back did you go with? How are you liking your complete cat-back? Does it have the coffee can action going on and loud as hell or is it a bit smaller than a coffee can with a bit of a deep and nice sound? 13th of July is all good for u, correct? As far as location goes-we have Arrowhead, Peoria, school by your house, and lot 59 up in the air at this time! I'm kinda waiting to see what everyone's choice is about location!!! Where about is lot 59 and your house? Jus maybe that will let everyone decide once that have more info. on the loocations of these locations. THANKS!!!
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well one thing is my name is brian, satin sayian is eric. i went with a tenzo muffler i think it was a type 2, it is fat and kinda long. it is a really low bass noise not a weird bee sound like most tenzo mufflers. i love it. the piping is custom bent straight piping. so its louder than normal. i can't wait until i get my intake so my engine sounds better. eric got aem cold air, which made his engine sound tight, but i am going with short ram aem, since they don't make a cold air yet, and i don't wanna risk a hydro lock. the kinda shitty thing is that the only things we can do to our cars with out voiding the warrenty is intake and exhaust. i want a dc-sports header so bad though. and a full aem pully kit. lot 59 is next to the asu football stadium and we can't go there cause the cops block it off and kick us out, but the school is at around like cave creek and cactus. we could also go to roadrunner park at like the 51 and cactus.
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[hr]Originally posted by: IllusiveImports
well one thing is my name is brian, satin sayian is eric. i went with a tenzo muffler i think it was a type 2, it is fat and kinda long. it is a really low bass noise not a weird bee sound like most tenzo mufflers. i love it. the piping is custom bent straight piping. so its louder than normal. i can't wait until i get my intake so my engine sounds better. eric got aem cold air, which made his engine sound tight, but i am going with short ram aem, since they don't make a cold air yet, and i don't wanna risk a hydro lock. the kinda shitty thing is that the only things we can do to our cars with out voiding the warrenty is intake and exhaust. i want a dc-sports header so bad though. and a full aem pully kit. lot 59 is next to the asu football stadium and we can't go there cause the cops block it off and kick us out, but the school is at around like cave creek and cactus. we could also go to roadrunner park at like the 51 and cactus.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: IllusiveImports
well one thing is my name is brian, satin sayian is eric. i went with a tenzo muffler i think it was a type 2, it is fat and kinda long. it is a really low bass noise not a weird bee sound like most tenzo mufflers. i love it. the piping is custom bent straight piping. so its louder than normal. i can't wait until i get my intake so my engine sounds better. eric got aem cold air, which made his engine sound tight, but i am going with short ram aem, since they don't make a cold air yet, and i don't wanna risk a hydro lock. the kinda shitty thing is that the only things we can do to our cars with out voiding the warrenty is intake and exhaust. i want a dc-sports header so bad though. and a full aem pully kit. lot 59 is next to the asu football stadium and we can't go there cause the cops block it off and kick us out, but the school is at around like cave creek and cactus. we could also go to roadrunner park at like the 51 and cactus.[hr]
WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK ABOUT THESE LOCATIONS???
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Sup guys - yeah, the car looks great, I got it back last Friday
Can't even tell there was
$4100
of damages....lol. Anyway the 13th should be good for me, and I'm up for any location.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: RevHigh
Sup guys - yeah, the car looks great, I got it back last Friday
Can't even tell there was
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PM me when u guys get a date, location and other stuff. Ill stickey it up top guys!
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PM me when u guys get a date, location and other stuff. Ill stickey it up top guys!
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Sorry I havent been around too often guys...Ive been busy with finding work and getting ready to test with some of the police agencies around Phoenix. I dont see a problem with the 13 of July. Now, where do we meet. I went to a car show the night of the big Tyson, Lewis fight and it was in Chandler. The police know about it and they seemed pretty cool. I dont know the cross streets though. Brian, good to have ya back...How was your trip?
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My trip was great. nothing but sitting on my *** all week and having a very happy (happy hour). its good to be back though. i missed everything back here. i drove by the schools parking lot tonight like 15 min ago so at like midnight, and the middle of it has 2 rows that we can line all the cars up in and there is light that illuminates the whole area. and then there about about like 50 other spots if that many people decide to show up. by the way we still want to get people for our car club, we haven't made any official bi-laws or anything but we know all the main ones, and the stickers we get are 10, 15 and 25 bucks and we can get them in almost every color.
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RBABE, I know nothing about Preoria and other places. Just PM me like a week before, when you guys decide the time and place [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Essa
RBABE, I know nothing about Preoria and other places. Just PM me like a week before, when you guys decide the time and place [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][hr]
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Chris-How is all that jazz going with your career? I certainly hope it is favorable for you! Cool, you are up for the 13th!!! Now, we jus need to narrow down location!
Brian, I'm jealous! That sounded so nice!!! I'll let you guys toss up locations and see what comes down! The $10, $15, and $25 decals for your car club are based on size of decal and that is why the price variance? My husband and I might be interested in your club and we caught an earlier thread abouth the basic rules and think our ride and ourselves agree with it! What do you think? You can check our ride in members ride's under RBABE obviously and I think you saw it at last meet for I remember meeting a Brian. Was that you?
SO, EVERYONE IS COOL ABOUT THE 13TH BEING OUR NEXT MEET? JUS NEED TO NARROW DOWN LOCATION!!! I see quite a few really good suggestions coming in, what is everyone's opinion on location of next meet?
Brian, I'm jealous! That sounded so nice!!! I'll let you guys toss up locations and see what comes down! The $10, $15, and $25 decals for your car club are based on size of decal and that is why the price variance? My husband and I might be interested in your club and we caught an earlier thread abouth the basic rules and think our ride and ourselves agree with it! What do you think? You can check our ride in members ride's under RBABE obviously and I think you saw it at last meet for I remember meeting a Brian. Was that you?
SO, EVERYONE IS COOL ABOUT THE 13TH BEING OUR NEXT MEET? JUS NEED TO NARROW DOWN LOCATION!!! I see quite a few really good suggestions coming in, what is everyone's opinion on location of next meet?
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ya i remember you. your civic was pretty tight that i remember. and i looked at the pics you have of it. you would be able to be in the car club. the prices varie due to the size like you thought. the 10 dollar one just says illusive in a custom made font. and is about like 2.5" tall and like 10 inches long. the other two are 2 different designs of our big logo that is requiered to be on the back window one is a big design of it and it hollow in the middle and that is what me and one of the other creators have on our cars and that is the $25 one, and the one that is 15 is about a third of the size but isn't hollowed out and with eother one you can still see out of the back window so you don't have to worry about not seeing out of the back window. hey chris what was your new cell # again?
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ya i remember you. your civic was pretty tight that i remember. and i looked at the pics you have of it. you would be able to be in the car club. the prices varie due to the size like you thought. the 10 dollar one just says illusive in a custom made font. and is about like 2.5" tall and like 10 inches long. the other two are 2 different designs of our big logo that is requiered to be on the back window one is a big design of it and it hollow in the middle and that is what me and one of the other creators have on our cars and that is the $25 one, and the one that is 15 is about a third of the size but isn't hollowed out and with eother one you can still see out of the back window so you don't have to worry about not seeing out of the back window. hey chris what was your new cell # again?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: IllusiveImports
ya i remember you. your civic was pretty tight that i remember. and i looked at the pics you have of it. you would be able to be in the car club. the prices varie due to the size like you thought. the 10 dollar one just says illusive in a custom made font. and is about like 2.5" tall and like 10 inches long. the other two are 2 different designs of our big logo that is requiered to be on the back window one is a big design of it and it hollow in the middle and that is what me and one of the other creators have on our cars and that is the $25 one, and the one that is 15 is about a third of the size but isn't hollowed out and with eother one you can still see out of the back window so you don't have to worry about not seeing out of the back window. hey chris what was your new cell # again?[hr]
Brian-How can I hook you up with the cash for the decal I would like? Eric has the mid-sized one on his back windshield? Right? For my info. and everyone else's info.-Could you please jot down the general rules yet once again because the old thread where they were stated is already outta here! THANKS! Chris' new cellie # is (602) 920-1922! I know I'm answering for Chris but I seriously thought he would not mind because I have seen him put it up here a couple of times! Chris-if you do mind-please scream at me in a PM and it will never happen again! THANKS! Brian-would the mid-sized decal fit between my Team RF decal and VTEC inside decal on my back windshield? Please take a peek at my ride in member's rides to see if you think it would fit! If not, I will take those two off and go for the larger decal of the club's! I'm still thinking about the color! My husband wants a bluish-purple and I was thinking about SSM or as close as it comes to that, black?, red, or white! What do you think? And once again, THANKS!!! Jodie
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I think the 13th is the winning date!!! Everyone down for the 13th? WHICH LOCATION, GUYS???
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it doesn't matter how i get the money for the decal. if you are going to be up in phoenix sometime we could meet and i could go get the decal. eric does have the smaller decal and on his doors he has the small one that just says illusive, myself and my friend have the big ones. by your pic it looks like the med. sized one would fit fine but since it is solid and not hollowed out like the big one your view might be messed up thats y eric put his in the lower part of his window. thanks for chirs' #. as for the rules lemmie see what i can remeber off the top of my head. we still haven't gotten around to making an actual form or anything to fill out. its prolly just cause we are lazy. lol well the rules:
1. Obviously the car has to be an imort.
2. We would like the car to have rims, but as long as the wheels look nice and aren't all messed up.
3. There has to either a performance mod, looks mod or a sound mod on the car that makes it stand out.
4. If there are no mods, the car has to be ungodly fast, but not look like a beer canned p.o.s.
5. Kinda like the last one the car has to be presentable and not be trashy looking, or ghetto'd out.
6. Eric, Corey, and myself have to aprove the car that wants to be in the club.
7. When we enter into shows as a club everyone choses which cars should be in it to get the most money.
8. If we win a car show as a club, we split the money equally for those who where in it, and if you win a sub catagory for your car alone you get to keep all that money for yourself.
9. One of the best rules that most people love, there are no fee's for the club except for the decals and car show enterance fee's. (this club is about cars and the drivers not me corey and eric making money for you guys soing something that you could do on your own.)
10. We will have meetings and will arrange them so everonye can come or so atleast most people can come.
11. There are no "under construction" looking cars allowed in the club with like missmatching colored bod kit that looks like crap stuff.
Thats about all i can think of now, and i am kinda tired and i gotta get up and go to work tomorrow or now today i guess since its 12:15.
1. Obviously the car has to be an imort.
2. We would like the car to have rims, but as long as the wheels look nice and aren't all messed up.
3. There has to either a performance mod, looks mod or a sound mod on the car that makes it stand out.
4. If there are no mods, the car has to be ungodly fast, but not look like a beer canned p.o.s.
5. Kinda like the last one the car has to be presentable and not be trashy looking, or ghetto'd out.
6. Eric, Corey, and myself have to aprove the car that wants to be in the club.
7. When we enter into shows as a club everyone choses which cars should be in it to get the most money.
8. If we win a car show as a club, we split the money equally for those who where in it, and if you win a sub catagory for your car alone you get to keep all that money for yourself.
9. One of the best rules that most people love, there are no fee's for the club except for the decals and car show enterance fee's. (this club is about cars and the drivers not me corey and eric making money for you guys soing something that you could do on your own.)
10. We will have meetings and will arrange them so everonye can come or so atleast most people can come.
11. There are no "under construction" looking cars allowed in the club with like missmatching colored bod kit that looks like crap stuff.
Thats about all i can think of now, and i am kinda tired and i gotta get up and go to work tomorrow or now today i guess since its 12:15.
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Brian-Could you please turn on your PM? THANKS!
Looks like we have the following members down for the 13th of July; Chris, Brian, Eric, Essa, Joey, Ben, and myself!
Nick is out of town and we still have not heard from Andy! Andy, u back home yet? Tony, are u gonna be able to make it? Mokushi, will u still be moving? Cobrapimp (Mike) are u gonna be able to make it? Anyone else I'm missing?
GrassPnoy, Jazzy, and GenerAsian, will you be able to make it?
Guys, let's target a location! Where we gonna meet on the 13th? We have thrown up Scottsdale Pavillions (parking is a real pain in the *** and it is kinda our standby?), Arrowhead, Peoria, school by Brian's house on Cave Creek and Cactus, Roadrunner Park at 51 and Cactus, and Chandler. What is your pleasure?
Phone number time-last thread where our phone numbers were posted is already gone so please post whatever phone number you feel comfortable posting up here! I'll go first!
Elliot and Jodie (520) 298-1788 is home and (520) 861-6688 is my cellie!
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Looks like we have the following members down for the 13th of July; Chris, Brian, Eric, Essa, Joey, Ben, and myself!
Nick is out of town and we still have not heard from Andy! Andy, u back home yet? Tony, are u gonna be able to make it? Mokushi, will u still be moving? Cobrapimp (Mike) are u gonna be able to make it? Anyone else I'm missing?
GrassPnoy, Jazzy, and GenerAsian, will you be able to make it?
Guys, let's target a location! Where we gonna meet on the 13th? We have thrown up Scottsdale Pavillions (parking is a real pain in the *** and it is kinda our standby?), Arrowhead, Peoria, school by Brian's house on Cave Creek and Cactus, Roadrunner Park at 51 and Cactus, and Chandler. What is your pleasure?
Phone number time-last thread where our phone numbers were posted is already gone so please post whatever phone number you feel comfortable posting up here! I'll go first!
Elliot and Jodie (520) 298-1788 is home and (520) 861-6688 is my cellie!
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Okay, everytime I make a promise to be there, something comes up and I can't make it. So this time, I'm not making any promises so maybe the luck will work in a reverse fashion.
So, everything that I'm about to say should be interpreted as the opposite:
"The 13th of July BLOWS!!! There is no chance in hell that I can make it to that one!!! I'd rather have bamboo shoots shoved up under my finger nails than go to another crappy meet!!! I hope that all you other lame-asses with $hitty civics don't go either!!!" [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
So, everything that I'm about to say should be interpreted as the opposite:
"The 13th of July BLOWS!!! There is no chance in hell that I can make it to that one!!! I'd rather have bamboo shoots shoved up under my finger nails than go to another crappy meet!!! I hope that all you other lame-asses with $hitty civics don't go either!!!" [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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Okay, everytime I make a promise to be there, something comes up and I can't make it. So this time, I'm not making any promises so maybe the luck will work in a reverse fashion.
So, everything that I'm about to say should be interpreted as the opposite:
"The 13th of July BLOWS!!! There is no chance in hell that I can make it to that one!!! I'd rather have bamboo shoots shoved up under my finger nails than go to another crappy meet!!! I hope that all you other lame-asses with $hitty civics don't go either!!!" [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mokushi
Okay, everytime I make a promise to be there, something comes up and I can't make it. So this time, I'm not making any promises so maybe the luck will work in a reverse fashion.
So, everything that I'm about to say should be interpreted as the opposite:
"The 13th of July BLOWS!!! There is no chance in hell that I can make it to that one!!! I'd rather have bamboo shoots shoved up under my finger nails than go to another crappy meet!!! I hope that all you other lame-asses with $hitty civics don't go either!!!" [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG][hr]
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Brian-thanks for turning on your PMs! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
I second the vote for Roadrunner Park!!! I'm coming up from Tucson as well as many others (I hope) and right off the freeway is handy as shizznick! Not to mention it solves our parking problem and lighting is good as well! Lighting is good, right Brian? I know I'm gonna bring my husband as well as my best girlfriend so she can meet all you guys! She has an import but it is only a 98' Kia Sephia LS, but it is a standard and has a DOHC 16-valve in it atleast! I'm gonna do my best to bring up this guy Chris that I met, he has a slightly modded 2k1 Civ that is looking pretty decent especially after he hooks up the mods he wants to do!
Mokushi, Cobrapimp, and GrassPnoy, please let me know if you are gonna be able to make it on the 13th for we could have a little Civ caravan up there! Mokuski mentioned this idea last time and I though it would be an excellent idea this time! Thoughts on it?
EVERYONE COOL ON ROADRUNNER PARK AT 51 AND CACTUS??? 5:30PM A GOOD TIME FOR EVERYONE? JUST LIKE LAST TIME?
I second the vote for Roadrunner Park!!! I'm coming up from Tucson as well as many others (I hope) and right off the freeway is handy as shizznick! Not to mention it solves our parking problem and lighting is good as well! Lighting is good, right Brian? I know I'm gonna bring my husband as well as my best girlfriend so she can meet all you guys! She has an import but it is only a 98' Kia Sephia LS, but it is a standard and has a DOHC 16-valve in it atleast! I'm gonna do my best to bring up this guy Chris that I met, he has a slightly modded 2k1 Civ that is looking pretty decent especially after he hooks up the mods he wants to do!
Mokushi, Cobrapimp, and GrassPnoy, please let me know if you are gonna be able to make it on the 13th for we could have a little Civ caravan up there! Mokuski mentioned this idea last time and I though it would be an excellent idea this time! Thoughts on it?
EVERYONE COOL ON ROADRUNNER PARK AT 51 AND CACTUS??? 5:30PM A GOOD TIME FOR EVERYONE? JUST LIKE LAST TIME?
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530 is fine for me. if we do it at roadrunner we could cook foord and stuff too!! i will drive by it to make sure there is enough light. also on the weekends they have an arts and crafts thing there but i think it will be done by then anyways but i will check on that this weekend.
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That is an excellent idea, Brian!!![IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] Maybe everyone could bring a thing or two for the cook out and then we could really enjoy good friends, good food, and hot as hell cars!!! Anyone else think this idea rocks? Would everyone be willing to bring a thing or two for the cook out? Not like a pot luck, more like a barbecue were we each decide what we could bring to make it a complete barbecue? Thoughts on that? Yea or nay? What could you bring? I would be willing to bring the hamburger patties and buns!!! Then maybe we would need someone to bring fuel for the fire, charcoal, drinks, ice, cups, napkins, cooking utensils, condiments, cheese, chips, dip, plates, and whatever else you might think would be excellent at a barbecue!
Wassup guys. I am new to the forum. Wasssup Eric and Brian. Havent talked to you guys in a while. Last time you saw me, I had a crappy *** green pea civic. I recently bought a 2002 civic ex coupe. I did a couple mods to it so far. ---> AEM short ram intake(cuz i have an automatic) [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG] Tenzo R exhaust, and black altezza tails. I will be getting rims in a week or two. Tell Eric to call me up so we can meet sometime. Later -John
wow guys its been awhile, ive been too busy for my own good, so wheres the new meet at, roadrunner park. cool, what date, hope i didnt miss it yet. well someone pm me with a date and stuff and lets get this party rollin, and whose this john kid, seems pretty cool, but umm throw me some hints on how i might know ya, later guys, good to see everyone again.
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i will bring some food stuff, if we decide to do that. that would be fun. hey krasd hows that aem sri working out? thats what i am going to have to get since i have an automatic also.
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Brian and John-You can hook up a CAI to your automatics!!! Andy and Tony did it to Andy's automatic! He said it was a piece o' cake and all thay had to do was take out the battery and then hook it up and slap the battery back in there! We don't have to have a standard to hook up CAI, just ask Andy or Tony and they will gladly show you how it is done! Take a peek under Andy's ride at the next meet if he is able to show because he might not be back from Taiwan yet! Just wanted to give you guys some info. on it because it can be done and IMO, it helps with the gains! However, Tony says CAI and SRI are about the same as far as gains are concerned! Basically, go with what looks pretty and sounds good for it is not really gonna do shizznick for it is just a hangin' on to the car part! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
John, hello and good to meet you! I'm Jodie (RBABE)!!! Yeah I know, that is pretty darn obvious!!! U GONNA BE UP FOR OUR NEXT MEET?
So far, we have it done as Roadrunner Park at 5:30PM on July 13th!!! Brian had the idea of also making it a meet n' greet as well as a barbecue! U DOWN 4 THAT? What could you bring?
I'm covering hamburger patties and buns and Brian is covering food stuff??? Hey Brian-what food stuff if everyone is down for this excellent idea of yours?
John-I think Eric is trippin' a bit for he does not know where you know eachother from! Maybe you could fill him in if you have not done so already?
Brian-lighting good? Arts and crafts people, cool, maybe they would want to join us? [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
John, hello and good to meet you! I'm Jodie (RBABE)!!! Yeah I know, that is pretty darn obvious!!! U GONNA BE UP FOR OUR NEXT MEET?
So far, we have it done as Roadrunner Park at 5:30PM on July 13th!!! Brian had the idea of also making it a meet n' greet as well as a barbecue! U DOWN 4 THAT? What could you bring?
I'm covering hamburger patties and buns and Brian is covering food stuff??? Hey Brian-what food stuff if everyone is down for this excellent idea of yours?
John-I think Eric is trippin' a bit for he does not know where you know eachother from! Maybe you could fill him in if you have not done so already?
Brian-lighting good? Arts and crafts people, cool, maybe they would want to join us? [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
Eric, This be the only asian boy you know. You know, the one with a green civic, i go to shadow too son, well at least I graduated from it. To jodie, Yea i was gonna get a cold air but automatics have only short ram and if i wanted a cold air they would have to do some modifications to it. So technically it wouldnt be a cold air nemore. The guy at Rtoys was gonna modify it for me but i didnt want it. Short ram is pretty loud brian, it sound louder than my exhaust. i Think i can make it to the meet , not sure if i can bring something, kinda broke right now. I might bring something oriental. -John



