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I've got a 2k3 civic coupe with a sound system that is bonkers. Anyway, I have a quick question if anybody has any opinions on this one. I just installed the JL Audio 500/5 amp, and I'm about to customize my trunk with some new subs to go along with everything else. I'm going to put in two 12s, but should I go with the JL 12W3v2 and stick with JL for the subs/amp, or should I go with something like a couple mmats? Thanks in advance.
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Rep Power: 0 dude, if ya got the money (like 350ish per sub) get some Image Dynamic Max 12. 1000 watt rms/1800 watt peak. they are sick if in the right box with the right set up and amp, one can be louder than 2 15" subs.
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i think you should get some 6 1/2's and make a box. that should be fine......[IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 337 yup i wa thinking shiva as well scrolling through, and second it.
some others had good suggestions, but the problem is that amp. at 250 rms for bass, you have extreemly limited options, you can really only run a super efficient subwoofer, and only one at that.
I can totally understand the desire for 2 12's, but teh fact is, you really dont have enough power for them, unless you buy circuit city xplod junk. everythiogn else will have a far larger powerhandling requirement, like those idmaxes, which would be kille,r but not on 250 rms at all.
brahma, w7, resonant engineering, all make fantastic subwoofers, just not efficient enough to run on 250 rms. so what DOES thtat leave us?
single idq, 10, 12, 15. all are awesome, if you have heavy midbass fronts and are running 6x9's on the rear amp channels, id really reccommend going with a single 15. the idq15 only needs something like 1.8 sealed.
shiva/tempest. Id highly reccommend a tempest, because the fact is, $150 cant buy you a better subwoofer. its an excelent value! you have just enough space to fit one in there ported, with 4.5 cubic feet to teh subwoofer, 6 cubes external after port displacement and woofer displacement, ill tell you teh sound is amazing! like taking a bath in sound! for heavy midbass systems ONLY. the shiva is also great, you wont find a 12 that can play lower, and will rock yoru car at 250 rms.
10w3v2/12w3v2. this would be yoru more "i want lots of spl" kind o woofer, probably be the loudest woofer of any here ("metered" loudness, the tempest will "sound" loudest by FAR) the 10w3v2 is one of my favorite woofers, i have to say, after i heard it in an extended cab truck, id love to hear one in a civic. this is also the most expensive solution.
with all said and done, it depends how much money you have and how much space you want to take up and how loud versus how good you want to sound. If you are ALL ABOUT sound, id go for the tempest, of ANY of those choices. if you decide to go the adire route, Id be glad to help ou design a box, as well as fonto or ludlamtheory, all of whom run adire products. If space is too big a concern to go tempest, id look at teh shiva or IDQ15, only after those consider teh idq12.
the JL's are fantastic, but really are too expensive to compare to idq or adire, which bang for buck ratio lays JL to waste, as well as sounding far warmer and flatter. if you happen to like ahrsh loud bass (like my buddy with an HCCA) then you would want a w3v2 over adire or ID. But Im assuming quality and warmth are your top priorities, and adire takes the crown on those, here.
some others had good suggestions, but the problem is that amp. at 250 rms for bass, you have extreemly limited options, you can really only run a super efficient subwoofer, and only one at that.
I can totally understand the desire for 2 12's, but teh fact is, you really dont have enough power for them, unless you buy circuit city xplod junk. everythiogn else will have a far larger powerhandling requirement, like those idmaxes, which would be kille,r but not on 250 rms at all.
brahma, w7, resonant engineering, all make fantastic subwoofers, just not efficient enough to run on 250 rms. so what DOES thtat leave us?
single idq, 10, 12, 15. all are awesome, if you have heavy midbass fronts and are running 6x9's on the rear amp channels, id really reccommend going with a single 15. the idq15 only needs something like 1.8 sealed.
shiva/tempest. Id highly reccommend a tempest, because the fact is, $150 cant buy you a better subwoofer. its an excelent value! you have just enough space to fit one in there ported, with 4.5 cubic feet to teh subwoofer, 6 cubes external after port displacement and woofer displacement, ill tell you teh sound is amazing! like taking a bath in sound! for heavy midbass systems ONLY. the shiva is also great, you wont find a 12 that can play lower, and will rock yoru car at 250 rms.
10w3v2/12w3v2. this would be yoru more "i want lots of spl" kind o woofer, probably be the loudest woofer of any here ("metered" loudness, the tempest will "sound" loudest by FAR) the 10w3v2 is one of my favorite woofers, i have to say, after i heard it in an extended cab truck, id love to hear one in a civic. this is also the most expensive solution.
with all said and done, it depends how much money you have and how much space you want to take up and how loud versus how good you want to sound. If you are ALL ABOUT sound, id go for the tempest, of ANY of those choices. if you decide to go the adire route, Id be glad to help ou design a box, as well as fonto or ludlamtheory, all of whom run adire products. If space is too big a concern to go tempest, id look at teh shiva or IDQ15, only after those consider teh idq12.
the JL's are fantastic, but really are too expensive to compare to idq or adire, which bang for buck ratio lays JL to waste, as well as sounding far warmer and flatter. if you happen to like ahrsh loud bass (like my buddy with an HCCA) then you would want a w3v2 over adire or ID. But Im assuming quality and warmth are your top priorities, and adire takes the crown on those, here.
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Rep Power: 0 WR, thanks for the advice. Let me tell you exactly what I have and maybe then I can narrow it all down to one choice...
Head unit - Sony XAV-7W in dash receiver/7in monitor
EQ - Kenwood 11 Band Graphic EQ
Speakers - MB Quart 6x9's, 6 1/2's, and tweeters
Changers - Sony 10 disc CD/MP3/CDr-rw and Sony 10 disc DVD/CD/MP3/CDr-rw changer
Sony TV Tuner
Dynamat throughout
That's what I'm running with as well as the JL 500/5 amp. I like having a complete sound with the highs, mids, and lows all coming through nice. But I want to have something that will definitely thump loud and clean. This audio place wants to customize my car up, especially the trunk, and thought that two JL's would be nice if they did the trunk up and custom made some enclosures. I'm not too, too worried about cost, but just want the best sound possible. I never really heard of adire or shiva, and little about idq's, but you think I should just go with one or two of those?
Head unit - Sony XAV-7W in dash receiver/7in monitor
EQ - Kenwood 11 Band Graphic EQ
Speakers - MB Quart 6x9's, 6 1/2's, and tweeters
Changers - Sony 10 disc CD/MP3/CDr-rw and Sony 10 disc DVD/CD/MP3/CDr-rw changer
Sony TV Tuner
Dynamat throughout
That's what I'm running with as well as the JL 500/5 amp. I like having a complete sound with the highs, mids, and lows all coming through nice. But I want to have something that will definitely thump loud and clean. This audio place wants to customize my car up, especially the trunk, and thought that two JL's would be nice if they did the trunk up and custom made some enclosures. I'm not too, too worried about cost, but just want the best sound possible. I never really heard of adire or shiva, and little about idq's, but you think I should just go with one or two of those?
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Rep Power: 337 with those 6x9's as rear fill, and a shop thats wants ot go nuts on yoru trunk (as in using the spare tire wwell for additional space) I wouldnt hesititae to get a singel tempest.
the problem with teh JL's is that nothing really matches up to those MBQ's for comparable quality. im not saying even remotely that JL makes a poor quality speaker, but teh fact is, the w3v2, which is about as entry level as you are gonna want, NEEDS about 250 to get going, so youd only get one. the w6v2 or w7, which would match up to teh rest of your system, would need FAR more power for just one befor eyou are using it to its fullest potential.
with only 250 rms, the JL woofer low power enough to really achieve full excursion with a pair on 250 rms is the w0, and im sure thats about the last thing you want in yrou car [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
with those 6x9's, your gonna have plenty of midbass support, even with only 25 rms, so id definitely shy away from basically every 10, and most 12's. only ULTRA low bass 12's would i consider, such as the shiva.
but for your BEST sound that will make people drop their jaws and smile uncontrollable and bob their head to the music, your gonna want a tempest. without doubt.
tempest information and ordering, shiva is here too
shiva will play rediculously low, and will sound the same as a tempest, but a tempest plays REEEEEEEEEEEEALY low, ive NEVER ever once played a tempest for someone who wasnt incredibly impressed, sealed or ported.
you take that tempest to a shop, tell them you either want 4 cubes sealed, or 4.5 cubic feet ported, with at least 40 square inches of port area, preferrably 50, tuned to 23 Hz (they will tell you thatll be a huge box, it will be, even over 6 cubic feet net) you port that tempest and feed it 250 rms i cant tell you how happy that will make you as it matches up to your mids and highs.
I know one other member here runs 2 tempests in their car in a sealed box thats way too small, but many here have experience with shivas, including fonto and ludlamtheory, both would be excelent ources of information on the quality of sound form adire, a temest would sound identical, only play lower. far lower [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
the problem with teh JL's is that nothing really matches up to those MBQ's for comparable quality. im not saying even remotely that JL makes a poor quality speaker, but teh fact is, the w3v2, which is about as entry level as you are gonna want, NEEDS about 250 to get going, so youd only get one. the w6v2 or w7, which would match up to teh rest of your system, would need FAR more power for just one befor eyou are using it to its fullest potential.
with only 250 rms, the JL woofer low power enough to really achieve full excursion with a pair on 250 rms is the w0, and im sure thats about the last thing you want in yrou car [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
with those 6x9's, your gonna have plenty of midbass support, even with only 25 rms, so id definitely shy away from basically every 10, and most 12's. only ULTRA low bass 12's would i consider, such as the shiva.
but for your BEST sound that will make people drop their jaws and smile uncontrollable and bob their head to the music, your gonna want a tempest. without doubt.
tempest information and ordering, shiva is here too
shiva will play rediculously low, and will sound the same as a tempest, but a tempest plays REEEEEEEEEEEEALY low, ive NEVER ever once played a tempest for someone who wasnt incredibly impressed, sealed or ported.
you take that tempest to a shop, tell them you either want 4 cubes sealed, or 4.5 cubic feet ported, with at least 40 square inches of port area, preferrably 50, tuned to 23 Hz (they will tell you thatll be a huge box, it will be, even over 6 cubic feet net) you port that tempest and feed it 250 rms i cant tell you how happy that will make you as it matches up to your mids and highs.
I know one other member here runs 2 tempests in their car in a sealed box thats way too small, but many here have experience with shivas, including fonto and ludlamtheory, both would be excelent ources of information on the quality of sound form adire, a temest would sound identical, only play lower. far lower [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 ^ Man I can't tell you how helpful you're being. I really appreciate it. So you think that with just one, not two, Tempest 15's I will get enough sound quality and boom that I'm looking for? See I've never really heard of Tempest, and I'm thinking that one wouldn't be enough boom. My buddy who got me into sound for the car has always been telling me two subs, two subs, two subs. About the box, I was thinking about going with ported. Doesn't a ported box create better air flow, therefore better sound? I could be wrong. Briefly could you explain what the 250 rms is. I don't really know much about the specs and what it all means. Again, I can't tell you how much this means to me for the information.
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Rep Power: 337 blueprint, im not gonna lie, the tempest was designed to be a home theater woofer. it is an entry level caraudio woofer at best, but here is the true value of the tempest. the quality of this woofer is unparralleled for $150! the SPL isnt the best out there, but you cant compare the SPL of an entry level woofer to that of, say, a brahma! jsut unfair!
teh name of the game here is efficiency, two woofers? two woofers? two woofers? oh jeez.
two woofers = EVERYONE and their grandmother has 2 woofers
two woofers = double the power requirement of one. and you dont have alotta power.
two woofers = 3 db advantage over one woofer! only 3 db!
two woofers = UGLY compared to teh simple elegance of one [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
check this out, the name of the game is efficiency. a 12" brahma cna outhit a tempest easily! but i havent named any other parameters, think abotu this, you got 250 rms to work with. only 250! SO: now we have the GROSSLY inneficient brahma, the still inefficient w7, and the efficient as all hell tempest! which meters higher now? tempest does [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] the tempest cna just flat out do more with that little power than teh brahma can, who would barely get a love tap off that power!
I can understand yrou reluctance to try something youve never heard, for sure. if you decide to get this woofer, when you pull it out of the box, youll be even more disheartened, when you see just how ugly teh cone is [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
but i guarantee you, when you start tuning that bastage, after putting it in teh box it needs (huge) you will be euphoric. I guarantee.
sit in a bunch of cars, listen to some bass. have you noticed the same thing i have? the bass hits yoru head, its sitting in a car with audio just pounding yrou eardrums, not pleasant at all to listen to, its loud for sure, its jus tnot......musical!
the tempest, in 4.5 ported (bigger the better, but 4.5 is a good minimum) is like taking a BATH IN SOUND. the sound makes it in yoru ears, for sure, but you cna efeel it all over your body. your not sitting in a car listening to music, you are sitting in a car getting a musical EXPERIENCE. The warmth is breathtaking.
I know i sound like a hardcore salesman, but i got one last pitch (cause i think everyone should listen to this woofer) If by chance you decide to try ou the tempest, and put it in a poor box and it sounds bad, or you decide you dont like the sound at all, even with the perfect box and tuning, you wasted how much? $150? in audio terms you must know by now thats nothing [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] you really have nothing to lose by trying it out!
to explain teh 250 rms deal, yoru amp pis a 5 channel amp. it puts out:
100x2 to yrou 6.5's (and tweeter component set)
25x2 to your 6x9's (rearfill, not rear soundsource)
and 250x1 for whatever you choose as yrou subwoofer.
what this means, is that you have a powerlimit of 250 rms watts to send to your sub-bass to have some kicking bass. spending big on a pair of 12w7 or on a single 15" resonant engineering XXX, or going the snple route with a pair of 12w3v2's might be what everyone is reccommending, but the fact is, that 250 rms istn enough for those woofers!
the brahma wants over a killowatt
the w7's want 500 up
the xxx wants 1600 rms
even teh w3v2 isnt pushed as hard as it can till you feed it close to 250 rms.
so: if you ran a pair of w3v2's, it would totally work! it would take up almost no space, it would sound good! you wouldnt be able to come close to the sound a tempest can make, the frequency range, but it will play! but think abotu it! 2 subwoofers with 250 watts. shared among 2 subwoofers, thats 125 rms watts each. only 125 watts per subwoofer! thats not alot of power at all!
the w3v2 would sound good and get reasonably loud, for sure! but would not get NEAR as loud as it COULD, and why should you pay for performance you dont use?
thus, you need a subwoofer that cna make the most of that power you have! (or else buy another amplifier, thast jsut another hhuge cost tho) In my opinion, a single subwoofer setup is far more elegant and impressive than a dual, and when you cna outperform all yrou friedns with comp VR's and sony whatever MTX woofers, with jsut ONE on LOW power? gotta be a good feeling... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
you say cost is no factor. ive said many times that tempest neds a HUGE box and youve said nothing about space being a concern. with these two points in mind, i would highly reccommend giving the tempest a try, you have nothing to lose!
if space IS a concern, you have every posible itteration of space to run an adire product:
4.5 ported tempest
4.0 sealed tempest
3.5 ported shiva
1.8 sealed shiva
any of those setups with 250 rms into a single woofer will rock yoru car. sealed shiva will match up and sound nice. so will teh ported tempest, but have that extra *oomph* for when you wanna go blockrocking or impress friends, for sure!
teh name of the game here is efficiency, two woofers? two woofers? two woofers? oh jeez.
two woofers = EVERYONE and their grandmother has 2 woofers
two woofers = double the power requirement of one. and you dont have alotta power.
two woofers = 3 db advantage over one woofer! only 3 db!
two woofers = UGLY compared to teh simple elegance of one [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
check this out, the name of the game is efficiency. a 12" brahma cna outhit a tempest easily! but i havent named any other parameters, think abotu this, you got 250 rms to work with. only 250! SO: now we have the GROSSLY inneficient brahma, the still inefficient w7, and the efficient as all hell tempest! which meters higher now? tempest does [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] the tempest cna just flat out do more with that little power than teh brahma can, who would barely get a love tap off that power!
I can understand yrou reluctance to try something youve never heard, for sure. if you decide to get this woofer, when you pull it out of the box, youll be even more disheartened, when you see just how ugly teh cone is [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
but i guarantee you, when you start tuning that bastage, after putting it in teh box it needs (huge) you will be euphoric. I guarantee.
sit in a bunch of cars, listen to some bass. have you noticed the same thing i have? the bass hits yoru head, its sitting in a car with audio just pounding yrou eardrums, not pleasant at all to listen to, its loud for sure, its jus tnot......musical!
the tempest, in 4.5 ported (bigger the better, but 4.5 is a good minimum) is like taking a BATH IN SOUND. the sound makes it in yoru ears, for sure, but you cna efeel it all over your body. your not sitting in a car listening to music, you are sitting in a car getting a musical EXPERIENCE. The warmth is breathtaking.
I know i sound like a hardcore salesman, but i got one last pitch (cause i think everyone should listen to this woofer) If by chance you decide to try ou the tempest, and put it in a poor box and it sounds bad, or you decide you dont like the sound at all, even with the perfect box and tuning, you wasted how much? $150? in audio terms you must know by now thats nothing [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] you really have nothing to lose by trying it out!
to explain teh 250 rms deal, yoru amp pis a 5 channel amp. it puts out:
100x2 to yrou 6.5's (and tweeter component set)
25x2 to your 6x9's (rearfill, not rear soundsource)
and 250x1 for whatever you choose as yrou subwoofer.
what this means, is that you have a powerlimit of 250 rms watts to send to your sub-bass to have some kicking bass. spending big on a pair of 12w7 or on a single 15" resonant engineering XXX, or going the snple route with a pair of 12w3v2's might be what everyone is reccommending, but the fact is, that 250 rms istn enough for those woofers!
the brahma wants over a killowatt
the w7's want 500 up
the xxx wants 1600 rms
even teh w3v2 isnt pushed as hard as it can till you feed it close to 250 rms.
so: if you ran a pair of w3v2's, it would totally work! it would take up almost no space, it would sound good! you wouldnt be able to come close to the sound a tempest can make, the frequency range, but it will play! but think abotu it! 2 subwoofers with 250 watts. shared among 2 subwoofers, thats 125 rms watts each. only 125 watts per subwoofer! thats not alot of power at all!
the w3v2 would sound good and get reasonably loud, for sure! but would not get NEAR as loud as it COULD, and why should you pay for performance you dont use?
thus, you need a subwoofer that cna make the most of that power you have! (or else buy another amplifier, thast jsut another hhuge cost tho) In my opinion, a single subwoofer setup is far more elegant and impressive than a dual, and when you cna outperform all yrou friedns with comp VR's and sony whatever MTX woofers, with jsut ONE on LOW power? gotta be a good feeling... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
you say cost is no factor. ive said many times that tempest neds a HUGE box and youve said nothing about space being a concern. with these two points in mind, i would highly reccommend giving the tempest a try, you have nothing to lose!
if space IS a concern, you have every posible itteration of space to run an adire product:
4.5 ported tempest
4.0 sealed tempest
3.5 ported shiva
1.8 sealed shiva
any of those setups with 250 rms into a single woofer will rock yoru car. sealed shiva will match up and sound nice. so will teh ported tempest, but have that extra *oomph* for when you wanna go blockrocking or impress friends, for sure!
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Rep Power: 0 Ok, last couple questions. 
As far as space, I have an '03 Civic LX, and I'm not really sure what would fit as far as the dimensions you mentioned if I am to go with one 15 sub. I saw the picture of the Tempest, and yeah you could say I was like wtf. But appearance doesn't mean performance. A home theather woofer? Ok, now I'm worried. I guess I never looked at something like that for a car.
I guess I'm worried that if I go that route and customize it up, I don't want to have to undo it if it's not really hitting like I want it to. Money is not an issue as far as doing it up, but I don't want to have to do it twice. Then I worry about the shake, because I don't want to push so much that my car will end up shaking or rattling to the point of annoyance, even though it has the Dynamat.
The reason I'm asking so much is because I would like to get it done, and get it done right on the first try. That, and I'm gettting anxious and tired of using the 'transition' subs that I have in the car now. Thanks again.
As far as space, I have an '03 Civic LX, and I'm not really sure what would fit as far as the dimensions you mentioned if I am to go with one 15 sub. I saw the picture of the Tempest, and yeah you could say I was like wtf. But appearance doesn't mean performance. A home theather woofer? Ok, now I'm worried. I guess I never looked at something like that for a car.
I guess I'm worried that if I go that route and customize it up, I don't want to have to undo it if it's not really hitting like I want it to. Money is not an issue as far as doing it up, but I don't want to have to do it twice. Then I worry about the shake, because I don't want to push so much that my car will end up shaking or rattling to the point of annoyance, even though it has the Dynamat.
The reason I'm asking so much is because I would like to get it done, and get it done right on the first try. That, and I'm gettting anxious and tired of using the 'transition' subs that I have in the car now. Thanks again.
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Rep Power: 337 its a little trickier to fit in a 4.5 cubic foot ported box in a civic, but it can be done
a box like this can be built for $30 and two afternoons of work, and would let you test out the performance.
the loaded box IS 4.5 tuned to 23 with 35 or so SQ inches of port. it burned well [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
I honestly have no doubts that you will lvoe the tempest from the first time you hear it to the time you never hear it again. but if demoing before you drop alot on install is important, then you can build a shitty temp box liek this one and take a listen. then you can take it to the shop and pay them boatloads of money to put it in fiberglass in yrou spare tire well and make it look all spiffy, you wont regret it [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
a box like this can be built for $30 and two afternoons of work, and would let you test out the performance.
the loaded box IS 4.5 tuned to 23 with 35 or so SQ inches of port. it burned well [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
I honestly have no doubts that you will lvoe the tempest from the first time you hear it to the time you never hear it again. but if demoing before you drop alot on install is important, then you can build a shitty temp box liek this one and take a listen. then you can take it to the shop and pay them boatloads of money to put it in fiberglass in yrou spare tire well and make it look all spiffy, you wont regret it [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 Thanks again man. I think I'm going to go up to the audio place tomorrow and talk to them about it, then go ahead with the Tempest. Can't wait to play it. I was talking to a buddy of mine tonight, and even he was skeptical about a home theater speaker in the car, but you've got me convinced. 
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Rep Power: 337 its important, if you cant get a minimum of 4.5 cubic feet for a ported box, or about 4 cubic feet for a sealed box, forget it, go with something else. youll be amazed at what a tempest can do in 4.5 ported even with such low power!
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Rep Power: 364 I don't know what recommended internal volume for that sub is, but do you suggest going with what the company specs say for box size? I got all my mdf cut for my new sub, which needs 1.5 cu. ft. and I've got a bit over. Its closer to 1.75 I believe, but do you really need 4.5 for a sub like that?
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shiva's and tempests require lotsa lotsa space... right now as a temp box i have a single shiva in a 3.43 cubic foot box, now the tempest is the 15 inch version of the shiva, therefore more airspace required.
shiva's and tempests require lotsa lotsa space... right now as a temp box i have a single shiva in a 3.43 cubic foot box, now the tempest is the 15 inch version of the shiva, therefore more airspace required.
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[hr]Originally posted by: white2K2EX
I don't know what recommended internal volume for that sub is, but do you suggest going with what the company specs say for box size? I got all my mdf cut for my new sub, which needs 1.5 cu. ft. and I've got a bit over. Its closer to 1.75 I believe, but do you really need 4.5 for a sub like that?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: white2K2EX
I don't know what recommended internal volume for that sub is, but do you suggest going with what the company specs say for box size? I got all my mdf cut for my new sub, which needs 1.5 cu. ft. and I've got a bit over. Its closer to 1.75 I believe, but do you really need 4.5 for a sub like that?[hr]
my old 4.5 ported box was net 6 cubes or so, after port and woofer and mdf displacement
and now i am giving mine ballpark 8-9 cubic feet EACH.
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