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is 10" better than 12"? or the other way around

i want 2 of these to put inside my car next year
its not amplified so this is what im looking 4...
but im undecisive abot 10" or 12"
shoot!
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_121.html#
79.99 is the cheepest i found plus $21 ans some change for shipping

wait EDIT EDIT EDIT
here is the 12 for 89.99
not amplified i might just go for this one....
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/viewitem.php?id=123#

give me some input
i want basstubes cuz
1 im puertorican
2 i like bass
3 i listen to alot of reggaeton and salsa... el gallo papa!

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another question... what is the size of our oem front doors and rear pannel speakers...i wanna get these if they fit
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Friend of mine had these and i was not impressed at all, i guess they were pretty loud but quality was only ok.
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u know whats funny.... the Boston Acoustics company is down the street from mine... i went there to see if they sell speakers for a cheeper price but i got the big NO...
they had a nice room so u can test all the speakers out.....WTF tease
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6.5 for oem front speakers (component)
6x9 for rear

10" has a tighter response, good for rock, classical or other instrumental genres.

12" will give you a ton of bass and is generally better for rap, techno, or other electronic music


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Originally Posted by 02nithwkcivcpe
Friend of mine had these and i was not impressed at all, i guess they were pretty loud but quality was only ok.

wich ones i posted 3 of em?????
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Originally Posted by starstryke
6.5 for oem front speakers (component)
6x9 for rear

10" has a tighter response, good for rock, classical or other instrumental genres.

12" will give you a ton of bass and is generally better for rap, techno, or other electronic music


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so go 12" that sounds like good info

6.5 front? how abut the back
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im running a kenwood 1000 watt amp just in case u nees that info.. i forgot the model# but it does ok with the current box i have
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6x9 (for coupe, crutchfield.com has a sizing guide so if you wanna double check ;P)

What is the RMS on the amp? does it support mono, 2ch, 4 or 4 with a bass output? Normally you want not crank the max amount of watts out of any speaker, just enough to get good response and definitely get a capacitor (1 farad minimum)

Sadly I do not know much more than that.

Boston Acoustics are great speakers
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oh, forgot two things

If you hear crackling noises coming from your woofer you might need a Ground Loop Isolator.

Take a look at the specs on your amp, it usually states the peak power output for each speaker/woofer, that should help you determine which woofer is right.
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6x9 (for coupe, crutchfield.com has a sizing guide so if you wanna double check ;P)

What is the RMS on the amp? does it support mono, 2ch, 4 or 4 with a bass output? Normally you want not crank the max amount of watts out of any speaker, just enough to get good response and definitely get a capacitor (1 farad minimum)

Sadly I do not know much more than that.

Boston Acoustics are great speakers
i have the sedan so i wonder if its the same ill check in crutchfield
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if you have a sedan, the rear speakers are 6.5's but if you had a coupe the rears are 6x9's
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Originally Posted by starstryke
If you hear crackling noises coming from your woofer you might need a Ground Loop Isolator.
what does the ground loop isolator do. sorry not trying to mess up your thread pichy
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12"s cause too much rattling, 10"s are perfect just power em properly/
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1. sedan front and rear speakers are all 6.5"

2. neither 10 or 12 is "better"..... I can not think of one reason to use one over the other. simply because a sub is smaller, will not make it louder, tighter, punchier or any number of other characteristics. 12s do not cause too much rattling. to think that an extra

3. those audiobahn tubes suck. audiobahn sucks in general. stay away from them.

4. crackling from your subs DOES NOT mean you need a ground loop isolators. I've not once heard of crackling be a cause of a ground loop, it is almost always due to distortion or other problems. ground loop isolators are typically used to eliminate alternator whine. even then they do not eliminate the noise, but rather filter the range of frequencies associated with the noise. while you are filtering the whine, you would also be filtering those frequencies out of your music, kicking the crap out of your sound quality. this information doesn't really apply to you, but it needs to be mentioned what they actually do and why I stress against the use of them

5. matching the power output of your amp to the power requirement of your speakers is trivial. this statement only goes so far, you would probably want to avoid putting coils rated for 150w on a 1000w amp. the important thing is making sure your signal is clean and your amp is properly tuned. you can overpower a speaker 10 ways from sunday if the power is clean. don't concern yourself with numbers, concern yourself with how your amp is tuned. if you are chooisng speakers based on power requirements, you are wasting a lot of time.

6. get a pair of component woofers of your choice and get the appropriate sized box for them. your ears will thank you. I'm not necessarily saying avoid tubes, but I am saying avoid those audiobahn tubes.
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Originally Posted by MegaHurtz
1. sedan front and rear speakers are all 6.5"

2. neither 10 or 12 is "better"..... I can not think of one reason to use one over the other. simply because a sub is smaller, will not make it louder, tighter, punchier or any number of other characteristics. 12s do not cause too much rattling. to think that an extra

3. those audiobahn tubes suck. audiobahn sucks in general. stay away from them.

4. crackling from your subs DOES NOT mean you need a ground loop isolators. I've not once heard of crackling be a cause of a ground loop, it is almost always due to distortion or other problems. ground loop isolators are typically used to eliminate alternator whine. even then they do not eliminate the noise, but rather filter the range of frequencies associated with the noise. while you are filtering the whine, you would also be filtering those frequencies out of your music, kicking the crap out of your sound quality. this information doesn't really apply to you, but it needs to be mentioned what they actually do and why I stress against the use of them

5. matching the power output of your amp to the power requirement of your speakers is trivial. this statement only goes so far, you would probably want to avoid putting coils rated for 150w on a 1000w amp. the important thing is making sure your signal is clean and your amp is properly tuned. you can overpower a speaker 10 ways from sunday if the power is clean. don't concern yourself with numbers, concern yourself with how your amp is tuned. if you are chooisng speakers based on power requirements, you are wasting a lot of time.

6. get a pair of component woofers of your choice and get the appropriate sized box for them. your ears will thank you. I'm not necessarily saying avoid tubes, but I am saying avoid those audiobahn tubes.

damn... dude ... i i just want something to sound ok... i have a pair of audio bahn speakers now and to me they sound pretty good..it may not me a w7 but it bumps ok.. dont really care its all show for me.. ill get the tubes wrap em in marine red vinyl along with the entire trunk to have a nice looking set up... yaaaa meeeeeen!
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Personally, I'd say to stay away from the audiobahn stuff as well. You're all show, so I'd suggest something to spice up the trunk as well as far as the install. Simple, and elegant would be to false floor it (not very hard, there's a DIY or 3 on the site) and carpet the trunk to your choosing, or vinyl the floor, whatever you choose. If you decide to vinyl, a heat gun would help when you get to stretching the vinyl as tight as possible. You'll also want to either rent a compressor and HVLP sprayer and buy a compatable spray contact cement (meaning one safe for HVLP use) to adhere it with. If that's not an option, you can simply use spray adhesive in the can, such as super 77 from 3m.

I suppose you're wanting something fairly cheap as well. There are several options there. Something that sounds good at a very affordable price would be the adire audio shiva. With the wattage you have, you'll easily power them, as they're 250 watts apiece (maybe 300, don't remember the exact specs at the moment). You won't kill them as long as you tune properly. Don't crank the gain (this goes for any install really) as you could cause the speakers to kill themselves through thermal overload. Just keep the gain turned down and they'll sound nice. Another option, again in the budget range, is something such as the JL audio W1 series they just introduced. They're silver cone woofers, and would complement your color scheme fairly well also, as well as providing great sound.

As far as choosing 10" over 12", that's a matter of personal preference. The 12's, generally speaking, will play lower frequencies than 10's. 10's are more likely to be used in an SQ install, but at the entry/budget level, the difference will be nominal at best. At the entry level, you won't notice the tonality differences, or SPL differences very much, if at all. Go with what works best for you. If you're wanting to take up the least amount of space, well, 10" would most likely require a smaller box, again, it's product dependant. Go with what you like and what works best for you and your budget.
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