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Old Jan 26, 2004
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Question Help with audio???

My battery keeps draining when the car is off, My amp was previosly killing the battery because I didn't have the remote wire hooked up right, anyway I've been unplugging the power wire from the battery when ever I turn off the car so the battery won't die. Anyway, yesterday I finally wire the remote to the cig lighter so that the amp shuts off when the car does, and it does, I alson bolted the power wire to the battery and the lead kinda touches the post. anyway, I wake up this morning and the battery is dead, what can still be draining my battery, I am positive it is something with the system, please help.
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You probably have a dead battery. The stock one can only be fully discharged and recharged so many times before it craps out.
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But when I remove the power wire and jump the car, the battery works fine as long as I take the power wire off everytime I turn the car off, then the battery continues to work perfectly,Due u think that by the poxer wire constantly touching the actual battery post drains the battery??? I would think not since there is nothing pulling the current from the wire.
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Turn the car and radio off. See where the voltage is being drawn w/ a voltmeter.
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Power wire to the whole car or just the amp?
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If you have stuff hooked up to your battery its easy to check if its the cause. Turn everything off unhook the suspected wire and hook a test lamp in between the battery and the wire you unhooked if it lights up youve found the circuit thats causing the draw.
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I recommend getting a voltmeter to anyone with a system. You can monitor battery voltage, as well as charging system voltage and drain by turning stuff on and off.
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Originally posted by Regularjoe
Power wire to the whole car or just the amp?
Just the amp
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I guess I'll be buying a voltmeter after work, But if the amp isn't turned on, then How could it be drawing current????
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If you cant afford the Volt meter then the test light works pretty well as a FYI
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thanx, I am positive that it is the system drawing the current some how, I have no idea how though.
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im assuming you're using the OEM hu, being as you are hooking the rem wire to the cig lighter. if its an aftermarket HU, why not use the rem wire hookup? also, it may very well be the battery. you may want to stop by an autoparts store to see if its he actual battery. they should test it for free. my OEM battery craped out on me, i could still jump it off, or actually, i usually roll started it till i got a new battery, cause time i leave in the morning, no one is home to jump me off. (for some reason, i keep leaving my interior light on when i go out to the car for something late at night).
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Originally posted by Mystic3030
You probably have a dead battery. The stock one can only be fully discharged and recharged so many times before it craps out.

Gotta agree with mystic, from personal experience, every time i drained a stock battery more than twice it became as good as dead. Get a new one, but to be sure get it checked out, and when you get a new battery make sure your system is hooked up right, remote turn on wires are there to be hooked up correctly for a reason
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Originally posted by PopcornPlaya
im assuming you're using the OEM hu, being as you are hooking the rem wire to the cig lighter. if its an aftermarket HU, why not use the rem wire hookup? also, it may very well be the battery. you may want to stop by an autoparts store to see if its he actual battery. they should test it for free. my OEM battery craped out on me, i could still jump it off, or actually, i usually roll started it till i got a new battery, cause time i leave in the morning, no one is home to jump me off. (for some reason, i keep leaving my interior light on when i go out to the car for something late at night).

It is not the battery, I unplugged the power wire yesterday and the car has been turning on perfectly, last nite after work, this morning, on my first break......no problem, but if I hook up the power wire, and leave the car sitting for a little while then the battery will be dead I am using the factory HU and a low pass converter on the deck to put out the rca connection, amp and sub, ......remote is wired to the cig and amp turns off once car is on....... This is so frustrating.
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Is the LOC always on?
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this will work

but finding the problem would be better.

once you drain batteries a few times, they do go to crap. get it checked.

I guess I'll be buying a voltmeter after work, But if the amp isn't turned on, then How could it be drawing current????
there are lots of lights and things in your car that also use power. maybe in your wiring you created a short somewhere. check each and everything that has a constant 12V and make sure it is isolated from ground. also recheck grounds for the same thing.
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Originally posted by Regularjoe
Is the LOC always on?
It doesn't have an off or on switch, was I supposed to connect that to the remote as well?? The diagram just showed it connected to the rear speakers and grounded, no remote wire. I didn't hook it to any power wire either so I don't think that th LOC is using any power.
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Old Jan 28, 2004
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Ok, so I bought a volt meter and, The power wire is sucking power but at a very slow rate.........How is this possible when the amp is not on??????????????????? Someone, Anyone have any ideas??
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The power wire is always going to show a 12v+ current because it's hooked up to the battery. It's not draining it, because the amp is not using the power, unless it's turned on. At least thats how it would be if you had it correctly installed. I'm thinking you have either a bad battery, a bad ground, or somehow your amp is remaining on.
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If the ground is bad, Then it should not turn the amp on, Is that correct??? I have the amp grounded where everything else is grounded. I have it under the plastic piece that covers the latch. This is soooooooooo f8king frustratating, I just want my system to wrk righ for a f4ckin change, gosh dammit, Sorry I had to vent.
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The problem is that the amp is staying on. What setup do you have, OEM deck? Are you sure the amp is turning off when the car is turned off? Does it have a light on it?
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the amp is broken some how..............The amp lights turn off and the sub turns off as well, but somehow the amp is still pulling current, Don't ask me how but it is, This seems to be against the law of physics but........You tell me?
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How do you know it's pulling current? I think you should take your battery and get it tested before we go any further with this. That way you can rule that variable out. It makes no sense to keep going over wiring and such when it could be as simple as a dead battery. Even though it doesnt die when you disconnect the amp, I would still get it tested. Get the results of that, come back here, and we'll go from there.
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If your positive the amp is drawing the current then i assume the battery dont go dead when you disconnect the amp? If this is the case then what deck, amp do you have. And how is the amp turned on ?

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thanx, I am positive that it is the system drawing the current some how, I have no idea how though.
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He's already said everything is fine once the amp is disconnected. If a voltmeter shows the current dropping when the car is off, it's the amp. If you have a buddy, ask if you can swap with his and see if it still does it.
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My bad, i must have miss read and thought he was just dissconecting the battery cable. I dont understand how a battery would cause his amp to draw power thou? Have you checked to make sure that your remote turn on coming from the cig lighter is turning off with the key off ? Check it at the amp.

What i would do, would be disconnect the remote turn on wire from the amp. Then check for the draw. If it still drawing power i dont see how it can be anything other than the amp being some how shorted out. If someone thinks its something else please explain how and why.
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OK, I tested my battery and it's fine........for the past 2 days I have been disconecting the amp power wire when I turn off the car so the battery has been fine. I am just going to put the power wire on a switch........ I took my car to Circuit city, and the guy said the install I did was perfect, just like a professional........and he had no idea why my amp was still drawing power. This amp has a mind of it's own, the light on the amp turns off, even the sub stops playing when i turn my car off , and when i turn my car on there is a delay before the sub kicks in since the remote is hooked to the cig lighter; so I no the amp is turning off but for some reason it still pulls current. WTF, I think I'm going to sell the amp and by a new RF.
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do you have an el cheapo amp kickin around? i guess the amp could be defective. improper wiring can make amps do whack as $hit, esp. if they don't have built in protections.

you have to realize that like 95% of peoples problems posted here are
1) user error
2) unrelated to the audio they are blaming the problem on or
3) so specific we can't possibly help

so excuse our not believing it's wiring
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Good luck finding a switch for less than $50 that can handle the current going through your main power wire. It must be a problem with the amp then...I can't imagine what else the problem is. Try hooking up another amp in there, or take the amp and get it tested. See if the problem persists with a different amp.
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