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Old May 17, 2003
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Gosh if you don't trust your 7thGen Civic brothers, who could you trust?

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Originally posted by EEN
i dont know the exact numbers, but i know that it is proven to give the most hp and torque. pm flyriceracer and ask him....he knows everything.
How do you know its proven? Because everyone says it is? Thats hardly proof. Lets see some dyno sheets. Thats what we need. A dyno sheet area for different parts like we have the clip section for exhausts.

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Originally posted by RedDragon333
Some time ago back in Sep of 02 several 7thgens with almost all the exhausts available showed up at the local raceshop/dyno to see which exhaust was the best for our cars. While the Tanabe isnt the loudest it is the most impressive as far as performance goes. I no longer have the dyno sheets with me since its been a while but the DC TCS, Greddy EVO, Magnaflow, Apexi axel back, a custom piping setup with muffler, and the Tanabe RSpec as well as several others were all dyno tested. These cars was all stock excpet the exhaust system and they were all EXs. The Tanabe proved to be the best for the gains in both torque and HP, yes they were minimal because of our cars but that was expected. But it did out perform the other systems. Greddy and Apexi coming in right after. Sorry i dont have the numbers with me.
Was there anyone there with an HKS setup or ws that not out yet at the time?

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Originally posted by FlyRiceRacer02
It's the piping, but more than that it is ultimatly the design of the muffler at the end and the resonator.
So the muffler at the end really makes a difference? I thought I was told that it doesn't, which is why replacing just the muffler at the end and not changing the piping won't add any hp.

If it's the piping, why not just get custom pipes in the same design as the tanabe ones? Anyone want to put up a diagram?

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The muffler is where most of the gains come from not the piping. You don't need any bigger piping if you aren't running with FI. HKS found the stock piping was fine with our cars and so only made their system an axleback. Not saying the bigger piping causes any losses either up to a point. From the research I've done anything above 2.25" or 2.5" max, is ok, but after the piping is too big and can cause some losses. A little back pressure is good/best, but with none, you can have some losses.
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I think there was one guy with HKS. His muffler rusted out and fell off before he could get to the dyno meet.
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Originally posted by IronFist
So the muffler at the end really makes a difference? I thought I was told that it doesn't, which is why replacing just the muffler at the end and not changing the piping won't add any hp.

If it's the piping, why not just get custom pipes in the same design as the tanabe ones? Anyone want to put up a diagram?

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I was talking comparative to other aftermarket exhausts. Shot for shot aftermarket exhausts are 2.25" piping so arguing the pipe size is not a valid point since they are they same. The power is in the muffler restriction and airflow.

Any aftermarket exhaust is better than stock. Stock piping is so small.
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oh please, I'm sure they're all pretty much the same.. within the same marginal hp/torque lost/increase.

lets not fuss over this.

its just about which muffler and sound you like. thats all.
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there is no point of buying a muffler, just put a muffler tip and your all set.
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Originally posted by GucciDaddy
there is no point of buying a muffler, just put a muffler tip and your all set.
hmmm......someone likes rice.
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So what about keeping the stock exhaust but getting custom Tanabe-style piping? Then you wouldn't have a noticible modified exhaust.

Or why doesn't anyone make a modified exhaust that only has a 2 or 2.5 or 3" outlet. Why all the 4" and bigger stuff? Is it to please the ricers? I once saw a muffler with a 6" tip. Come on now...

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Stock exhaust is VERY restrictive.
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That explains it I think.

Um, thanks.

I'll have more exhaust questions later.

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A $49 stainless exhaust tip is rice? The one that's supposed to be Honda OEM. Oh my.

My IS 300 exhaust tip is 3 1/2. They cheated though cause it's smaller where it comes out of the muffler and then bells out. But it's all one piece and is welded on so maybe it's not rice.
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Arg... more debates on performance of exhausts in our cars. Of course since they own a tanabe they're gonna say its the best... lol.. common sense. In my opinion.. our engines are worthless in terms of performance.. its too restricted.. either that or honda already tuned the car the best way they can.. and aftermarket parts is not affecting it much.

I mean i've heard tanabe's sound. My friends 00 civic ex has one. I LOVE IT.. seriously... but i wont catch my self burn 600 bux just for sound.. LOL HELL NO! So I bought a respectible company's rear section w/ a good price. 245 is hard to beat for an HKS. If i dont like the sound of it.. then ill just customize the piping or remove the resonator and put 12 inch bullet resonator... Simple as that.. maybe later on wen tanabe reaches $400.. then ill buy...

In my humble opinion... Just think if the exhaust is worth the sound.. forget the performance lol... well my 2 cents.
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Well, it is the title of the thread.

"Tanabe exhaust gives the best gains"
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Bart.. but you see.. a title like that would get alot of attention.. its like arguing that oranges is better than apple.. get it?
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So you don't think there would be a large percentage of Tanabe posts?
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I named the thread that to get the attention of people who always say it's the best. That's why I put it in quotes.

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nothing is proven by countless arguing...dyno sheets of the car with the exhaust and no other mod is what is needed here. To me who cares about what exhaust you get...i'm not too fond of seeing Tanabe and other families going to the far ends to prove which is better, i mean there are tons of other brands out there instead of the usual Tanabe, Greddy, etc. What about brands like Megan racing, Mozart, or Thermal R&D (i have that one and it sounds good) they're all the same performance wise 2-3 HP? loss of torque? You can get 2-3 HP from a freakin spark plug for $50.00. Personally i really wouldn't pay 550+ for an exhaust but if you want the name brand stuff that's what it's going to take. I asked my friends before what kind of exhaust i should get before...and all of them said either Greddy or Tanabe, DC didn't even come into the picture and when i said Thermal...**** some never even heard of that brand. Everything you buy is for the name in my opinion. lease:
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That is very true, it is about the name, but if someone wants to buy it then let them buy it, My GF just bought mine for me last week, i love it. great sound and great looks, little gain but not much, it has already been said. Anyones exhaust is not going to give an outstanding gain for HP or TQ. you have to buy it for the looks and the sound mostly. untill someone post a dyno or you go for your self no one will really know so look at the exhaust and just figure it out and check out the exhaust clips for your info. come on people it is common sense.
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after reading all this, i'm so glad i'm about to join the tanabe family this wednesday when it comes in!!!!

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After reading this, Im so glad I saved $250 for an OBX exhaust that has same gains, better sound. Ha Ha.

I just had to.
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Originally posted by Civic02Ex
After reading this, Im so glad I saved $250 for an OBX exhaust that has same gains, better sound. Ha Ha.

I just had to.
I have yet to hear anyone rant about how great OBX(aka generic) is. You sound low on cash that you couldn't afford a real exhaust and you have no real proof to backup your exhaust.

Notice how your no-name brand exhaust doesn't even have a Sound Clip available.

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