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Old Apr 6, 2003
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Guys with TCS Exhaust

Do you guys notice in any gains? Cuz Im not getting any and my car feels really slow. I think even slower than it was stock.
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I felt the same way too... Break it in a little... =p I'm sure it helped but I didn't really notice anything...
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Hard to tell gains in our cars. More of a mental game...
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Hard to tell gains in our cars. More of a mental game...
I second that
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Could it possibly be the way its designed? I mean if you look at it it has to goto all that twisted tubbing before it comes out.
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Maybe the extra weight of the TCS offset any power gain. lease:
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Maybe the extra weight of the TCS offset any power gain. lease:
yeah that thing does weigh alot, i used to have it, my car feels so much lighter now with my skunk2, and sounds alot meaner :devil:
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heh. dc sports for you.

you probably lost some low end torque and the extra weight didn't help any... hence it feels a bit slower when you're just driving normally...

*shrug*

everyone has lightweight, lighter than stock design... i wonder what DC is using..
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didnt notice any gains, but (+ or -) 2-3 hp will be unnoticable
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Originally posted by dru106
Could it possibly be the way its designed? I mean if you look at it it has to goto all that twisted tubbing before it comes out.
And you are thinking straight pipes are less of a restriction and a better gain? You need bends in an exhuast system. No offense but the TCS is a really really good design that you can't obviously understand.


1.8 + in horsepower and + .80 in torque for TCS
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And you are thinking straight pipes are less of a restriction and a better gain? You need bends in an exhuast system. No offense but the TCS is a really really good design that you can't obviously understand.


1.8 + in horsepower and + .80 in torque for TCS
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agreed, DC Sports does do research on a product before they put it out. Do you really think they would put something out that is worse than stock and slows a car down? they are a major name in aftermarket parts and if they did that they would be out of business.
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a "really really good design" and it only gives a 1.8 hp increase? o ... ic.
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lol. dc sports is hardly so great.

dc sports, aem, injen... they're all over rated.

and a lot of us are feeding them tank loads of cash..

again, $500 for an exhaust that weights more than stock... and any performance gains it has is easily offset by its extra weight..

but it does sound nice. heh.

I duno about u guys, but I just want to find a good axel back... or muffler. there's no need for a catback on a stock engine. or a mildy bolt on one (ie: intake and header what not)
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imo. the tcs sucks.
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imo. the tcs sucks.
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I got a TCS- it's the BEST sounding exhaust IMO & though i don't know about what gains it gives me (no dyno chart) it did improve throttle response due to better piping (better flowing exhaust gasses).

As far as the low increase in HP, show me an exhaust that gives significantly more! Can i see a dyno chart w/ ONLY a Tanabe exhaust & no other mods to see how it "ownz" the TCS? (maybe .05 HP?)

Low gains on our cars doesn't have to do w/ the exhaust being bad, but due to the much better design of exhausts on new cars. They improve emissions & keep the same performance.
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i love my tcs!! the sound is great and i love when i start the car. i wish it was a little bit louder but that can be fixed my replacing the resonator w/ a straight pipe!! and i plan on doing that too!!
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i love my tcs!! the sound is great and i love when i start the car. i wish it was a little bit louder but that can be fixed my replacing the resonator w/ a straight pipe!! and i plan on doing that too!!
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I started out with TCS because I loved how it looks. It's very hard to find decent cat-back, so it would look nice, give you power and sound great. But TCS - is the best balance. If you want just performace, heck, put the straight pipe , take away catalyc converter !
If you want to really feel gain of power, you must go with TCS, Header and FIPK( or other combination, but the car has to get a bit more air and that air should flow better to the TCS . Then your TCS will work even better...

Having only those 3 upgrades,Raced 2002 1.8T Jetta Tiptronic beet it in first two gears(I assume up to 60mph ) 3 times, but got beatten on the third. So I am going with JetChip and lightweight rims too
Hope it will help with TCS posting
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tcs is a good exhaust. i like the looks and the sound. it is heavy as hell and doesnt do anything for power, but what exhaust does for our car? if ya like the looks and are looking for a deep noticable sound but arent a moron and dont wanna wake the neighbors up, get the tcs.
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hey guys. i was also considering the tcs, but it seems to get alot of bad press (no gains, heavy, leaves black mark on bumper, etc.). maybe i'll just stay stock and save my money. in my opinion, the best souding exhaust that i have heard in a long while was none other than the stock exhaust system on a 97+ model prelude. no lie. the car was unmodified (at least from my limited view), a total sleeper. once the guy hit the on-ramp, he took off. nice, nice sound! made me turn and smile (this is rare, especially considering some of the crap i see on the road today). THAT'S the kind of exhaust i want for my car........unobtrusive under normal driving conditions......bite at wide open throttle. :devil:
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