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cool blue bulbs terrible!

I got some of those sylvania cool blue bulbs a while back, and they seemed to be okay until I drove in the rain. I thought my lights were off, and I coundn't see anything on the road. I'm debating to switch back to stock or not. Visibility is terrible in the rain. The only time they're good is on a completely dark, dry road.
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yeah, those sylvanias do suck....i got a set now that are made by Toucan industries (cant remember the exact name) but they give off a nice blue light and they are very bright in all conditions.....i got them from a local custom car shop so maybe you can find em in a place like that......i would definitely recommend them since they arent that expensive and they are good quality lights
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ya thats what i heard... and heard they werent even hyperwhite.
should get the ones i got... people always think i'm high beaming them. but then its cause the wattage is high... havnt had any problems with them tho... its import showoff krypton, something like 100/95 watts compared to what our stock 60/55?
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The Nokyas were rated 100/90 werent they? Thats higher than the stock rating but the Nokyas were like indiglos instead of actual lights. They sucked. One burned out and the other was burned.
Now I have a pair of Vestec HID-X.
They look a little lighter than stock yellow but shines the road a bright white just like HID except for the sharp cut off points.
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my $15 target bulbs are actually pretty decent
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i have the cool blue bulbs....i love em, and I drive in the rain all the time??? they are way brighter than stock
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ya thats what i heard... and heard they werent even hyperwhite.
should get the ones i got... people always think i'm high beaming them. but then its cause the wattage is high... havnt had any problems with them tho... its import showoff krypton, something like 100/95 watts compared to what our stock 60/55?[hr]
I haven't tried them in the rain... but I'm going to assume that they suck in the rain due to the color of light that hits the ground. And no... they aren't hyperwhite. If they were they wouldn't be legal bulbs. Looking at the headlight it looks stock... but when it hits the ground it's white with a tinge of blue and that makes it different that stock. I don't believe it's any brighter than stock though. I just like the color that hits the ground, plus it needs not to attract attention to my car.

I wouldn't be tempted to use a bulb with a higher wattage than stock. You run the risk or burning your wiring harnesses, and people have with aftermarket bulbs made by PIAA. If I were to compare their Xtreme Whites to the Sylvannia Cool Blues, the Sylvannia ones would win in terms of being brighter. Plus the wattage is safer.
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I've had the cool blues for at least 6 months now. Got rid of the yellowish stock look. I don't like the blue looking headlights. Kinda like a big rear wing, not my style. Anyhow, yea they don't work as well in the rain but no bulbs do really imo. I think it's the color of the light that they emit. I think they are slightly brighter than stock but nothing special.

I have heard the silverstars are supposed to be better but don't feel like dropping $50 to replace prefectly good bulbs.
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anyone tried them opti-blues from autodynamic.com?
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I see the silverstars everywhere. You can actually get $10 back with their rebate. I forgot where it was in these forums but I printed it out just in case. I CAN scan it. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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my nokyas warped into funny shapes after 7 months, but they never burned out. i, of course, removed em and replaced with OEM's. i have a set of showoff kryptons sitting around, but i'm not even gonna bother with them. true HID!
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yeah i got some cool blues too.
they're very nice in dark dry conditons i agree, in the rain, they're medicore. but they're better than stock IMO.
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ya thats what i heard... and heard they werent even hyperwhite.
should get the ones i got... people always think i'm high beaming them. but then its cause the wattage is high... havnt had any problems with them tho... its import showoff krypton, something like 100/95 watts compared to what our stock 60/55?[hr]
i flip off people with rice lights.



having lights like that...where they seem like highbeams...is downright selfish and inconsiderate. honestly i would laugh if someone got blinded and smacked up your ride cause they cant see where they are driving.
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I have burned through so many bulbs it's sad. I don't know if it's my car's electrical - my OEM bulbs are still fine - but I'd reccomend getting a harness upgrade kit, to handle the extra wattage. I melted the plastic casing on my car a few months ago, and have since burned through about 3 sets of different bulbs. I hate the stock yellow so that's why i keep using the hyper-white/opti-blue colored bulbs ..

Just my $0.02
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I wouldn't be tempted to use a bulb with a higher wattage than stock. You run the risk or burning your wiring harnesses[hr]
ya, i was worried about that at first but i've had them for almost a year now and had no problems..
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I got them too and i'm happy with them... no problems in the rain or snow so far...IMO they are brighter than stock
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Silver Stars best I've tried out of 4 types. Got on an open stretch of I 59 the other night and turned on the brights and it was just like daylight for miles. (Well, I got them hooked up to the Catz Zeta running 13.5 volts to the lights). No burny wires that way.
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i flip off people with rice lights.



having lights like that...where they seem like highbeams...is downright selfish and inconsiderate. honestly i would laugh if someone got blinded and smacked up your ride cause they cant see where they are driving.[hr][/QUOTE]

Why should anyone give a sheit? You flip off everybody anyway.
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how is having hyper white lights considered rice?
hold up, this is coming from someone who thinks anything that doesnt produce a .1 hp gain rice...
get a fast car first then talk **** to me. cause as of now, you have no respect from me.

n how is someone supposed to smack into my car? they're infront of me... and it aint even like its all up in there eyes, its just bright, not aimed high...
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my g/f and I both of Krypton Showoff's and they're by far the best bulbs I've seen and used...she has the blue tint ones, me the purple tint...they're extremely bright, definitely help at night, and from a distance have that HID appearance...

BTW, I don't see why people complain about bright lights, when every BMW, Audi, Merceders, Porsche, 350Z, Infiniti, etc., all have HID's that are ridiculously bright at night...I figure if you can't have HID's (don't wanna pay for the conversion), might as well get something that's somewhat close...
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My $12.00 bulbs have worked great for the last year...Look real clean too (4200K)
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sylvania silverstar i currently installed gave me othing but satisfaction,theyput out a white pattern of light and brighter than stock and are neither yellow or blue.
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how is having hyper white lights considered rice?
hold up, this is coming from someone who thinks anything that doesnt produce a .1 hp gain rice...
get a fast car first then talk **** to me. cause as of now, you have no respect from me.

n how is someone supposed to smack into my car? they're infront of me... and it aint even like its all up in there eyes, its just bright, not aimed high...[hr]
how are they considered rice? they have no gains for one (which you already acknowledged, but i feel the point has to be reiterated). the second reason is (and i dont care what you *think* you see because perception and reality are 2 different things) they are a detrement to visability over stock bulbs.

if you had an hid kit it would be a different story.

if it "aint even like its all up in their eyes" why would people think you are highbeaming them? the focal point of the light from your headlights might hit the ground, but people do see your lights with their eyes while they pass correct? if it is too bright, the human eye will squint, close the eyelid entirely, or do something to not see that light. humans will turn away from something that is burning the retena. they could hit you because they have lost control due to your lights. i myself have been blinded by such rice lights, and while i have avoided an accident, you never know who cant.


as for the fast car thing. i had a fast car. a 5.0. it would have probably dusted a vast majority of the civics on this site right off the line. id say unless you were pushing more than 180 ft/lbs of torque, id dust your rice burner too if i was still riding in my stang.


your post was the most idiotic post i have ever read. more retarded than the bypass vavle post i read a while back. how did you honestly come to moderator status?

oh and you never had any respect from me to begin with[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

edit: geez even the name of those damn things screams rice. hyper [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] you must be f**king with me if you say they dont.

a look into the future...
2007:
ricer 1: hey man check out these lights i just bought!
ricer 2: OMG OMG OMG OMG (while dancing around like a nancy-boy)
ricer 1: they look soooo cool
ricer 2: they must make your car really fast, i mean with a name like "super hyper godzilla firebreathing white lights" how could they not?
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I don't see how you could complain about HID brightness. You'd literally have to be in the direction the light projects (which is towards the ground) for them to be more annoying than trucks with stock bulbs behind your little Honda.

(Pointed towards KeeblaElf's comment)
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i think the definition of rice has been discussed before.. according to your definition of rice, the paint on your car is considered rice... oh you say it came from factory tho, but i dont think painted windsheild washers were...
n how is hyperwhites anymore dangerous then stock ones? how is hyperwhites different from HIDs? to my knowledge, HIDs dont produce gains... HIDs are probably brighter then most hyperwhites out there.

the people that thought i was high beaming them was when we were going to my friends house where theres no lights, i was lighting the whole way for them... n when you drive by someone, you dont look into their headlights... it might be bright, but since its not aimed high, it wont be in that persons eyes

"i had a fast car"... keyword.. "had", meaning you dont now..

n i've became a mod cause i wasnt an ignorant close-minded person like you...

i dont need or even want your respect cause you and your opinion means **** to me and majority of the people here... i dont even know why you waste your time here... you provide nothing but stoopid ignorant comments to this site, comments and opinions no one cares to listen to.
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A study by AAA says that the ony time headlights bother oncoming drivers or are too bright in their mirrors is when the headlights are not properly aimed. They also estimate that 50% of cars have misaligned headlights. If a person's lights are too low, he will maybe get them adjusted, as the visibilty will be poor. But people whose lights are aimed too high , probably won't get theirs aligned because they actually may see better with them.

When you change bulbs in our cars, there is almost always going to be a misalignment. That really needs to be checked after installing new bulbs. If you are getting flashed by oncoming traffic often, then your lights are definitely aimed too high, no matter what kind of bulbs you have.

The following link goes to the AAA study on headlight glare. It's a big PDF file, 100 or so pages, but it's worth reading the summary or all of it, it you are technically inclined.

Countermeasures for REducing the Effects of Headlight Glare (PDF: 629KB)
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i think the definition of rice has been discussed before.. according to your definition of rice, the paint on your car is considered rice... oh you say it came from factory tho, but i dont think painted windsheild washers were...
n how is hyperwhites anymore dangerous then stock ones? how is hyperwhites different from HIDs? to my knowledge, HIDs dont produce gains... HIDs are probably brighter then most hyperwhites out there.

the people that thought i was high beaming them was when we were going to my friends house where theres no lights, i was lighting the whole way for them... n when you drive by someone, you dont look into their headlights... it might be bright, but since its not aimed high, it wont be in that persons eyes

"i had a fast car"... keyword.. "had", meaning you dont now..

n i've became a mod cause i wasnt an ignorant close-minded person like you...

i dont need or even want your respect cause you and your opinion means **** to me and majority of the people here... i dont even know why you waste your time here... you provide nothing but stoopid ignorant comments to this site, comments and opinions no one cares to listen to.[hr]
colored washers nozzels give the hood a more refined look, while not standing out in the least (if you use same color as hood). the reason i did them the same color as my hood was because i wanted them to blend in.

oh and you must be pretty stupid to believe a $15 bulbs does the exact same thing as a ~$400 kit. hids enhance vision in the road straight ahead of the driver, but detract from his peripheral vision. your cheapo wannabe bulbs do not do this, and are worse off for your vision.

so what if my current ride isnt my old stang? at least i have experience in driving a manual, fast rwd car. did you own any cars in your lifetime with some *****? or were they all "ULTRA FAST MAD TYTE" honda civics.

in the end youre just talking about blah blah opinions blah blah. what you need to do is shut the f**k up and stop being a little bitch. you **** people off with your lights in an effort for you to be "sooo different". [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] no f**king consideration for other motorists (as evidenced by blinding them with your rice lights)...there are too many ********* like you on the road.

edit: i get the impression that since you dont know the difference between a true hid kid and rice lights, you dont know what H.I.D. even stands for.
H - high
I - intensity
d - discharge

there you have it. high intensity discharge. think about it.
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"H - high
I - intensity
d - discharge"

Shouldn't that be a capital "D"?
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"H - high
I - intensity
d - discharge"

Shouldn't that be a capital "D"?[hr]
whoops, my bad.
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n the point of coloring them was for looks right? not to make your car faster. in your definition, that would be considered rice cause coloring them doesnt produce any gains but merely makes the hood a little more appealing.

n i never said hyperwhites and HIDs do the exact same thing, i was saying they both brighten up the road. point being, hyperwhites are only as "dangerous" as HIDs.

n no i havnt had any other car then a civic. but then again i'm only 18, its my first car, and i already paid it off in full. do i talk ****, saying my cars fast? never.. i dont even plan on racing with this car. i'm just saying, you talk alot of **** for someone who probably cant even beat a stock rsx(n i dont mean with a granny as the driver). yes you HAD a fast car, but you dont no more.. your cars probably .1 second faster then mine, big f**kin deal..

you say hyperwhite lights are being inconsiderate? you gotta stop being a lil bitch and quit bitching about how hyperwhites blind you. driving 90mph is considered being inconsiderate. i'm sure people driving 90mph have caused much more accidents then people driving with hyperwhite lights.

oh n you know what HID stands for... very impressive
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