IM not sure if this is the right spot for this question but ill give it a try. Was changing my plugs for the first time myself and rushing through it i didnt even think to denote which coil came from which plug. I thought they might be interchangeable but i found different numbers all starting with D (D1, D8, etc). Does it matter which coil goes where and if so can anyone post a listing? This is for an 03 Civic 1.7L

The coils are the same. Does not matter where you put them.

HTH

As for the plugs/wires your supposed to put them in following the firing order, then reset ECU and start correct? seem to be having trouble getting spark...

You don't have plug wires.
You don't have a distributor.
You do have C.O.P. ignition.
No need to follow a firing order.
Your goal: Get a total of one plug and one coil in each hole.
Throw away the Bosch Platimuns that ChinaZone sold you.
Use NGK or Denso plugs.

No need to "reset the ECU" for spark plugs.
Why would you ask this?
What makes you think you don't have spark?
Why would you think this?

What made you think spark plugs were a problem?

As I said, I am far from experienced with any of this so if something i say sounds like nonsense, it probably is. No bosch plugs, bought the NGKs.
When i started the project, the car was running. idled rough from time to time, but for the most part was fine. Then I started to smell gas. Removed back seat and metal cover (4 plhillips screws) and found fuel on top of the pump assembly. Already purchased new pump so i used it anyway. Before dropping it in I ran it directly to the battery and it jumped to life spinning away. I can also faintly hear/ feel it kick on after putting it in the tank and turning the ignition to ON. Plugs looked oil fouled so i decided to replace them. As the car was starting/running before hand, I only messed with the pump and the plugs, and as far as i can tell the pump is working correctly, this is my only guess.

Do you think you are in over your head yet?



So put everything back the way it was. Running. Put the old parts back in, see if it runs. Replace only one part at a time, see when it stops running.




Really?
Why not just fix it?


Oh. Sorry.


So is it actually pumping fuel?
Does it have correct pressure?


If you are, as you say "far from experienced with any of this", what made you think this?




The original pump RARELY goes bad. These aren't GMs.

What did you put in there?

I'd suggest actually figuring out why it doesn't run, but that would mean actually knowing what you are doing, obtaining some test equipment, finding specs and procedures, and stuff like that.

You know Im glad I came here to be ridiculed and made to feel like and idiot, wasting my time with smart *** quips bout how i dont know what Im doing, instead of helping me understand and fix my problem. I work 50hr weeks just to pay for school and scrape together every last cent to live on.. But your right, i should feel like an ******* for not having the money to spend on a mechanic who in the end probably has no idea what hes doing anyways. But as long as you get to feel like tough ****, talking down to people over the internet. So thanks.

I told you what I think you should do. Backpedal.

And if you have a fuel pressure gauge, you could find out this:

Already tried putting old pump back in, no change. Still just turns over repeatedly. Btw for the future note that there is a difference between a layman and an idiot. (incase you havent picked it up yet, Im no longer interested in your suggestions, as you are obviously more interested in blowing up your ego than actually being helpful.

again, obvious troubleshooting steps hidden in a swarm of insults and sarcasm isnt what im looking for

What were you looking for?
You seem to want a silver bullet.
I ain't got it.



You were slowly revealing more info.
I might next ask if the spark plugs are wet with fuel, or dry.
Maybe suggest to check cam timing.
Hell, maybe it is flooded.
I can't tell from here.
But you don't want to hear it from me.

Now I know you are more knowledgeable then me ezone. However even though the coils dont have a spot per say..

Shouldnt they be put back in the same spots they were in? Assuming your using the same ones you took out..IE not new ones?

Something about the way the "wear" together? Perhaps small amounts of resistance differences? Or am I just picking on something thats too small to make a difference?

The car doesn't care.
Throw them in a pile, put them back on wherever.
Makes absolutely no difference, unless you are OCD and/or **** retentive.

HTH

hmm..Maybe I got OCD.. I always lable mine..

Good to know though incase I do mix em up lol

tested the fuel pumps electrical connector) ignition turned to ON) and getting power to the float but not to the pump itself. Will i only get voltage with the engine running/cranking, or could this be the issue?

[QUOTE=ezone;4602367]What were you looking for?
You seem to want a silver bullet.
I ain't got it.

Not so. Looking for possible answers, and you seem to know what your talking about. But..... "think your in over your head yet??.... "Really?
Why not just fix it?"

yea those seem like useful tips, and not at all you just being a douche

Ezone's humor is light hearted, not mean spirited. It may seem mean spirited, but he's just having fun with you. If it were mean spirited, he would be banned.

Just roll with it.

The advice to humor ratio is higher than you may think, read between the lines.

I had wondered if/when/how this would be addressed.

I've had a reply typed out since this morning, but the filter is keeping me from hitting the submit button. I'm afraid I'll hurt OPs feelings with about half of it.

There's a fine line between humor, honesty, and cruelty, although you consistently walk that line, you've not crossed it and I do not expect you will. Cruelty would consist of you referring to CWhite as an idiot for breaking his car during a basic maintenance procedure, you have not said anything remotely close to that. What you have done is provided ample amounts of very sound advice with a bit of your own sense of humor mixed in. You've stuck it out and typed up numerous posts in lasting threads to help people through difficult diagnoses. It's true, you've forgotten more than 99.999% of us will ever know. It's okay to mix a bit of humor into the equation, because frankly diagnosing problems does get dull.

Sometimes the best answer is to drop the DIY approach and take the car to a mechanic, because buying diagnostic tools will outweigh the savings in labour.

To the problem at hand, Cwhite:
Let's confirm that the spark plugs are oil fouled, could you post a picture of them?
Do you have a fuel pressure gauge or access to one (via rental, a buddy, whatever), because testing the fuel pressure would be the next logical step.

Im sorry I must just be the ******* then. Because clearly none of you have ever spent many hours trying fruitlessly to get your car running. I apologize for not taking the repeated insults with a smile. I dont see any humor in poking fun at someone trying to teach himself something. If he was a friend of mine, giving me **** lightheartedly because we knew esachother and had earned that right, itd be a different story. Also I never claimed he was just being plain malicious, just an egotistical jackass, typing every word dripping with sarcasm. Ive read through alot of his other posts, and theyre all the same way. Advice may be sound, but lording your knowledge over the less experienced isnt the same as trying to help. Also, just for the record, when exactly did opening the fuel tank, dissassembling the pump housing and replacing the pump become considered a basic maint. procedure? just checking.... because if you read back the coils/plugs were not when the issue started. I replaced them cause they were dirty and i didnt know what else to do at the time. Oh and the cars running smoother than ever. Fixed it this morning, using only my god given idiocy. Id like to tell you what the problem was, but apparently Id have to talk down to you for 2-3 paragraphs first and I dont have the time.


Well look at that.... I just did. Problem was the fuel pump relay. I had checked the pump fuse, which was fine, but was unaware of the relay under the passengers side.

I never referred to changing the fuel pump as a basic maintenance procedure, that was a hypothetical example based on your first post which made no mention of the fuel pump.

I've provided my objective assessment of the content of this thread and found it to be nothing more than a gentle ribbing. As you stated, a gentle ribbing is something you would expect from your friends when casually discussing automotive problems; you are not receiving paid, cut and dry advice on an internet forum, so the same type of interaction is to be expected. I understand that working on a car can be frustrating, which can effect your perception of said ribbing.

I'm glad the issue has been resolved, and I'm sorry your experience with the forum has not been more positive.