1st - 5th Generation Civic 1973 - 1995 In the years from 1973 to 1995 Honda released its 1-5th Generation Civics.
1st Gen 1972 - July 1979
2nd Gen 1979 - 1983
3rd Gen 1984 - 1987
4th Gen 1987 - 1991
5th Gen 1992 - 1995

Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

 
Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 22, 2013
  #1  
PaintYaCity's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
PaintYaCity is an unknown quantity at this point
Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

I got this car back in October, it drove great until December. I started having problems with high idle, within the week it went from a high idle to a fluctuating idle (800-2000rpm). That weekend i checked the codes and all it said was a misfire cylinder #1, i replaced the wires, plugs, rotor and cap, and #1 injector. The problem did not go away, then is started throwing the IACV code. I cleaned the IACV, didnt help so i replaced it.

--Even with a brand new Denso IACV(same as i took off the car) it is still throwing the IACV code and having the fluctuating idle.

~Is there anything special i needed to do when replacing?


--With the new plugs, wires, cap and rotor,fuel filter, injector in #1 - I am still haveing the misfire problem, i have done a compression check and all cylinders are at 170.

~ Could the IACV problem be fooling the computer to thinking its a misfire?
~ Can the misfire be causing the IACV problem?
~ Maybe the valves sticking?
(sometimes it will throw cylinders 3,4 also but when i reset the ECU they dont always pop back up)
~Maybe the distributor?

Im kinda lost at this point!

:hith ead:: hithead::hithe ad:
Old Jan 23, 2013
  #2  
PaintYaCity's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
PaintYaCity is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

70 views and no responces. not looking good......
Old Jan 23, 2013
  #3  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 517
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

Originally Posted by PaintYaCity
70 views and no responces. not looking good......
You posted this in 1973-1995 cars.
I know damn good and well you do not have a 19731995 car.
I didn't even need the crystal ball to see that.

Try again.

Year
make
model
trim
#doors
engine
trans

??

code numbers
freeze frame data
Old Jan 24, 2013
  #4  
PaintYaCity's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
PaintYaCity is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

Ok, bear with me im learning more and more abotu this car everyday.

I has a '00 ECU and Intake Manofold but a D15B block with vTec, so im thinking ill repost in 6th Gen since the problems seem to be coming from the parts off the '00

Year - 2000
make - civic
model - Civic
trim - ? all power with sunroof
#doors - 2
engine - D15B - Previous owner swaped. Still has '00 ECU/Intake
trans - Manual

??

code numbers - 14/ 71/ 72/ 73/ 74
freeze frame data - Not sure what this is.
Old Jan 24, 2013
  #5  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 517
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

Originally Posted by PaintYaCity
Ok, bear with me im learning more and more abotu this car everyday.

I has a '00 ECU and Intake Manofold but a D15B block with vTec, so im thinking ill repost in 6th Gen since the problems seem to be coming from the parts off the '00
OMFG it's a homesick abortion.
I'd HOPE the engine is a 96 or newer.




I really don't know how much I can help.

Year - 2000
make - civic
model - Civic
trim - ? all power with sunroof
#doors - 2
engine - D15B - Previous owner swaped. Still has '00 ECU/Intake
trans - Manual
2000 Civic coupe EX(? factory sunroof I assume?)
Why on Earth did it get a swap? Was it too hard to find the right engine or something?

code numbers - 14/ 71/ 72/ 73/ 74
freeze frame data - Not sure what this is.
On the codes, use decent code reader that gives codes in the standard Pxxxx format for OBD2. Two digit flash codes are too vague.

Code 14 could be any of 3 separate "P" codes, all have different definitions. OBD2 could narrow it down more: P0505 (idle speed high and can't be controlled), P0511, P1519 (circuit codes).

"Freeze Frame" data is like a snapshot of running conditions taken at the time a code set and stored until the codes are erased.
Tells stuff like coolant temperature, RPM, MPH, fuel trims, and a few more things. Invaluable at times.

Ok, idle problems: Start with basics.
Vacuum leaks.
Sticking IAC (what is the real code?)
Vacuum leaks.
Is the radiator full?
Vacuum leaks.
Does it reach operating temperature of 180F in a reasonable time?
Vacuum leaks.
You know how to check for vacuum leaks, right?



Misfire.....
Compression test? 170 seems low to me, but I don't know how you did it.
Valve adjustment? (!!!!)
Does it really have a miss or a misfire?



Is the intake coming loose from the head?






All I can do is SWAG here.
Old Jan 28, 2013
  #6  
PaintYaCity's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
PaintYaCity is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

I'd HOPE the engine is a 96 or newer.
Im not for sure but im told its out of a '95




2000 Civic coupe EX(? factory sunroof I assume?)
Why on Earth did it get a swap? Was it too hard to find the right engine or
something?
factory sunroof, a/c, c.c./ all power
I was told they already had the d15 when the orig motor blew

On the codes, use decent code reader that gives codes in the standard Pxxxx
format for OBD2. Two digit flash codes are too vague.
Name:  20130128_114302_zpsb0501c9e.jpg
Views: 3213
Size:  21.3 KB
Name:  20130128_1142531_zps959ce5d7.jpg
Views: 3617
Size:  27.6 KB

Im not seeing the OBD2 plug (i know its under the drivers side)
Maye this is the last OBD1 ECU?


Ok, idle problems: Start with basics.
Vacuum leaks.
Sticking IAC (what is the real code?)
Vacuum leaks.
Is the radiator full?
Vacuum leaks.
Does it reach operating temperature of 180F in a reasonable time?
Vacuum leaks.
You know how to check for vacuum leaks, right?
Brand new IACV (better not be sticking)
Radiator is full
Reaches temp fine
I checked all the vacuum lines i could find and they seem to be all intact.



Misfire.....
Compression test? 170 seems low to me, but I don't know how you did it.
Valve adjustment? (!!!!)
Does it really have a miss or a misfire?
I pulled all plugs and tested one at a time.
My buddy said he can show me how to adjust the valves but he never has time. Is it pretty simle? (Im no mechanic but i do work on all my cars)
Sometimes it seemd like it does have a miss but other times it runs SOOO smooth...


Is the intake coming loose from the head?
No.
Old Jan 28, 2013
  #7  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 517
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

Only have a minute here....

37820-p2p-a12
99 and 2000 Civic 2 and 4 door, EX. M/T

That thing better have an OBD2 plug somewhere.
Old Jan 28, 2013
  #8  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 517
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

Use carb spray or flammable brake cleaner to help locate vacuum leaks.

Or smoke. This guy is an idiot, but this is a viable method. [autostream]http://autostream.com/ibcivicforums/?page_type=firebirdplayerthumbnail&framepage=1363& transactionid=1359414311-982224733&posted_by=_www.civicforums.com&youtube_v ideo_id=zMok2y05jNE[/autostream]
Old Jan 28, 2013
  #9  
PaintYaCity's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
PaintYaCity is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

Originally Posted by ezone
Only have a minute here....

37820-p2p-a12
99 and 2000 Civic 2 and 4 door, EX. M/T

That thing better have an OBD2 plug somewhere.

I found it, it was stuffed up under the dash, my buddy has a code reader.
Ill get the codes and check for the leaks again tonight after work...


THANK A TON FOR ALL YOUR HELP ! ! !
Old Jan 28, 2013
  #10  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 517
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

Yw, gl
Old Jan 29, 2013
  #11  
PaintYaCity's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
PaintYaCity is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

You are the man EZONE !!!

I think i found it, intake mani gasket...

Its sucking like a sturgeon, i covered the leaking part with my finger and the idle stopped fluctuating. It seemed a little high still but it could be leaking from other spots on the gasket. Im going to replace it this weekend and hopefully that will be the fix.

The part # on my intake is p2p ipt-4

Engine - d15b VTec

Do you know if all the gaskets are the same or what one i should get?
Old Jan 29, 2013
  #12  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 517
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Replaced IAC Valve - Still throwing code and fluctuating Idle - D15B

Originally Posted by PaintYaCity
You are the man EZONE !!!

I think i found it, intake mani gasket...

Its sucking like a sturgeon, i covered the leaking part with my finger and the idle stopped fluctuating. It seemed a little high still but it could be leaking from other spots on the gasket. Im going to replace it this weekend and hopefully that will be the fix.
Yay.


The part # on my intake is p2p ipt-4
This means nothing to me.

Engine - d15b VTec

Do you know if all the gaskets are the same or what one i should get?
engine - D15B - Previous owner swaped. Still has '00 ECU/Intake
If the cylinder head and intake manifold are still original to the car, just get the gasket for the 2000 engine/car.

If you don't know for certain, you may need to get a gasket and see if it all matches up. Make sure it covers all important areas on the head, then hold it to the manifold and make sure it covers all areas there too.
If the head and intake don't match each other, you are going to have to deal with problems.
(I'd think to google port matching for more ideas on this if necessary.)

HTH
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
sharp66
Engine
31
Jun 12, 2022 08:45 AM
ezone
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
24
Oct 30, 2017 11:27 AM
LionSpratt
General Automotive Discussion
14
Jan 29, 2017 11:07 PM
tattedlariat
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
5
Apr 20, 2015 09:26 PM
CascadiaBlue
Introduce Yourself!
11
Apr 18, 2015 09:13 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:33 PM.