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Old 03-04-2003
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VAFC!! No check engine light!

My friend got it figured out and there is no check engine light probs! I drove his car last night and i was very impressed with the way it was tuned! I was reading other vafc post and yall are right because you can hear it in our cars! I thought that yall were bullsh*ting about the switch over point! I have a Question though I have a VAFC but I have not installed it due to all the probs but now that its figured out I want to install it, but I have N20 and I have heard that you can not use both at the same time. Does anyone really know if this is true? I dont think so because i dont know why this would be unless it has something to do with a higher detenation chance or something. Give me your opionions. Thanx
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Care to fill us in on the setup you have so that no check engine light comes on?[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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Care to fill us in on the setup you have so that no check engine light comes on?[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG][hr]
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when he shows me i will do a DIY but Im not messing around his car is stock with ingen cai and vafc and he bet me last night (not with juice but on motor)! And NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT, I borrowed his car and drove it for about 5 hours and no light ever! Help me so I can get it done and post what to do!
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Sounds good to me.
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If you advance the engine timing, and you run N2O, you will run into detonation.

This means that you will burn a cylynder or throw a rod.

The ignition timing can be advaced up to 5 degrees if running smaller than a 50 shot.

If you use the NX Nitrous Express kit, you can run a 50 shot with ignition timing at the ztock setting.

At a 75 shot, you will need to retard ignition timing by 3 degrees.

Hope this helped you out.
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The VAFC have been installed by several members here w/o a check light coming on but the VTEC engager wasnt working so am i correct in assuming your friend got past that? If so i would be happy to see a DIY and maybe some photos. And give your friend mad props for figering iut out before APEXi
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did you do a cold start and no engine light? because that is the only problem i have everything else works (engagement, etc.)

diy man! way to go!
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Mine works ok for a day or 2 and then the light comes on. According to my code reader there was a "vtec rear bank" error.

If you disconect the VTEC wires from the VAFC and hook them back up to the factory ECU (bybass VAFC using supplied connectors) then you wont get a light at all.
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Mine works ok for a day or 2 and then the light comes on. According to my code reader there was a "vtec rear bank" error.

If you disconect the VTEC wires from the VAFC and hook them back up to the factory ECU (bybass VAFC using supplied connectors) then you wont get a light at all.[hr]
yup that is exactly what i got, but mine only came on during cold starts. so I (like you) just bypassed the vtec wires back to the oem ecu.
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Can somebody explain what a VAFC exactly is and what does it do?
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It looks like you have a lot to know about cars so answer me this my trans wont get second anymore and everytime i switch gears they feel slow.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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yes he did get by it! Everything works perfect even on cold start!! I dont know what he did but he is going to do mine within the next couple days so when he does i will try and take some pics of the wiring! I promise yall that i will tell yall how its done as soon as i find out!! Hes trying to sell the plans to apexi right now! So he is being real carefull who gets the info!
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yes he did get by it! Everything works perfect even on cold start!! I dont know what he did but he is going to do mine within the next couple days so when he does i will try and take some pics of the wiring! I promise yall that i will tell yall how its done as soon as i find out!! Hes trying to sell the plans to apexi right now! So he is being real carefull who gets the info![hr]
sell the plans to APEXi thats funny i highly doubt this compney is gonna buy the plans of THEIR product from some no name, no offense to you or your friend but im sure they will come up with the plans very soon.
--- as for you MXR your tranny is fugged up put everything back to stock and take it under warranty issues and please dont double post
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sell is really not the word i was looking for, he is trying to trade for some sponsorship! I think something like that. I dont care as long as it works for me!
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i dunno, seems like if you guys did fix it, you'd post the solution by now. i think i'll wait for apexi's fix, i called and said it'd be ready in about 10 days.
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they fixed the prob, not me or i would have already posted it and he has not done mine because he wants to charge me $75! I dont want to pay so im going to borrow my friends car that it is hooked up to and duplicate the install so i should know how to do it tomorrow because im off work! there for I hope to have a diy for yall by sat maybe sun!
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Okay I didnt know that my friend was on the website but his name is mrdan4548! His VAFC is the one I drove and the one that works! Dan Is my freaking hero! He also fixed my motor mounts and my overheating prob! DAN YOUR THE MAN!!!
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alright cool i'll wait for the diy this weekend then. is it just a wiring issue or are there stuff you need to buy like resistors and junk?

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from what i know there is some extras that have to be done but I think its just a jumper wire but i will let you know when i find out! Im gonna go ahead and pay him to do it today so then i will look and try to take some pics of the wiring and post it this weekend!
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hey wheres the diy? its saturday [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
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Yeah man I planned my whole day out already wake up, eat, wire the VAFC and go back to sleep. Now what do I do? WTF lol haha
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well i blew my head gasket so my car is at alamo autosports in arlington getting that fixed before i go to padre on friday! Im going up there tomorrow to pay for it and have them check everything out on my vafc and see what they think! But come to find out its a little more involved then i thought it took him about 3-4 hours to get it where my check engine light wasnt on! DAMN I HATE MY CAR! p.s im gonna try and take some pics when i go up there of the wiring off the vafc!
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[hr]Originally posted by: BIGLIMPDOG
well i blew my head gasket so my car is at alamo autosports in arlington getting that fixed before i go to padre on friday! Im going up there tomorrow to pay for it and have them check everything out on my vafc and see what they think! But come to find out its a little more involved then i thought it took him about 3-4 hours to get it where my check engine light wasnt on! DAMN I HATE MY CAR! p.s im gonna try and take some pics when i go up there of the wiring off the vafc![hr]

I'm sorry but i'm starting to think this is all BS. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG] can't blame a guy for being sceptical.
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I guess we're gunna be waiting for apex to post there fix. lol I wish they would hurry.
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I will agree to the BS issue!! I would be sceptical to! Im trying to help you guys but Im having all kinds of probs with my car all the sudden and Im not gonna post it on the net untill i find out that it is done correctly! Sorry guys but I now have a blown head gasket and no one knows what it was from so I would not want to cause any damage to anyones car if thats what caused it! Alamo Will have my car till thursday or friday, They are checking to see if it is a REAL FIX or a temp fix to the check engine light issue! SORRY GUYS I APPOLIGISE FOR GETTING SOME HOPES UP! Hell my hopes where up until I blew a head gasket! SORRY![IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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well it has been 21 days any update?
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Re: VAFC!! No check engine light!

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I have a Question though I have a VAFC but I have not installed it due to all the probs but now that its figured out I want to install it, but I have N20 and I have heard that you can not use both at the same time. Does anyone really know if this is true? I dont think so because i dont know why this would be unless it has something to do with a higher detenation chance or something. Give me your opionions. Thanx

Actually you have a better chance of not detonating with the VAFC installed. If you tune it properly you can run the N20 much safer. The VAFC allows you to adjust your fuel maps at certain RPM's so you can throw more fuel when your spraying. This will prevent a lean burn which could grenade your motor. So i see no reason why you shouldn't install it. Hope this answers your question. good luck.
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still waiting for a fix.
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