Turbocharger Market Survey 2001-2004 Civic
One question...... is this turbo only going to be for the EX? Us LX drivin folks want in one the turbo action as well. Our engines already have a lower compression if I'm not mistaken.
What would you realistically pay to have a turbocharger set up that would move the engine to about 200 hp. --------- I would pay around 5000 only if all necessary parts are included, and the kit is composed of high quaility parts
Would you be able to do such a modification yourself if given an FYI video. ---------- For the most parts, maybe all with a FYI video
What are other things you would consider for a turbo set-up to be something you would purchase.------- what the max safe boost would be

Would you be able to do such a modification yourself if given an FYI video. ---------- For the most parts, maybe all with a FYI video
What are other things you would consider for a turbo set-up to be something you would purchase.------- what the max safe boost would be

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[hr]Originally posted by: kjgracing
Considering you can get a K20A engine swap for around $4K installed,
I would pay around $2,300 for the kit. ==-[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: kjgracing
Considering you can get a K20A engine swap for around $4K installed,
I would pay around $2,300 for the kit. ==-[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: SLAMMED01CIV
You guys are out of your damn minds paying that much for a turbo kit that will only give you 200whp at the max! For 4g's you can buy a K20 Type R motor with everything icluded installed that will give you 200whp stock! With a few bolt ons you could surpass 220whp! K20 Type R is where my money is going!
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[hr]Originally posted by: SLAMMED01CIV
You guys are out of your damn minds paying that much for a turbo kit that will only give you 200whp at the max! For 4g's you can buy a K20 Type R motor with everything icluded installed that will give you 200whp stock! With a few bolt ons you could surpass 220whp! K20 Type R is where my money is going!

you and kjgracing must be gettin high off the same stuff [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
yeah, seriously guys, stop low balling. you can get a k20 motor and tranny for 4 grand, not including the subframe and other miscallaneous parts you will need for the install. 4-5 grand for a turbo doing 200hp to the wheels is a very reasonable deal. i also question running 11psi, as most members do no more than 8. i'd definitely like to see how this develops, though.
I think there is alot more time and money involved in a swap, period. I agree with greg here all the way. An engine swap will run no less than 6 g by the time you're finished (that's if everything goes well which normally you run into problems with swaps.) I think 3-3500 would be very reasonable for a complete kit including everything to run the maximum psi safely. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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For a kit capable of producing around 200whp and with future increases of boost possible with internal upgrades I'de be willing to pay around $3,000 - $3,500. Although I'm working on my own turbo and a DIY to boot. I'm getting into all kinds of technical details now and I like to do things the right way from the get-go. My turbo will take many man hours to complete, but the resulting system should be very stable and very complete. Plus everything is just the way I like it. Hmm... My parts will cost me less than $3,500, so I'de probably want to pay much less than that for a custom turbo kit. To tell you the truth I just want to DIY my own turbo. I want things exactly as I want them since i know a ton about the technical details already. Yeah, hell with a kit. One will never be cheap enough for me. I will DIY. Then again, I'm not the average Civic owner.
I'm sorry, there is NO reason why anybody should pay more than $3,000 dollars for a turbo setup. $3,500 is pushing it for me. $4,000 is way too much; why not just get a custom one? Part of the appeal in a non-custom turbo is that if its mass produced the price should go lower; paying the same amount for essentially the same thing as a custom turbo defeats the whole purpose. As for reliability, a reputable turbo shop won't make you engine blow, especially if its something like 8 psi.
So to answer the question, $2,500-3,000. Reason: if its the same price as a good custom, why bother?
Video: sure, so long as its a reasonable DIY procedure.
I'm sorry, but 8g's is quite expensive for an engine swap. My friend had his del sol engine swapped to a JDM B16 for $1500 ...and he's kicking himself cus' he coulda got it done for $1,000. Granted there's a world of a diff between a B16 and K20A, point is that for 8G's, you're not gettting much for what you pay for. Pay a little more and you'd get a WRX.
Reasonable price also means reasonable for what you're getting, and dishing out 4g's for an economy car to go slightly faster than the average car is not worth it.
-Aki
So to answer the question, $2,500-3,000. Reason: if its the same price as a good custom, why bother?
Video: sure, so long as its a reasonable DIY procedure.
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[hr]Originally posted by: MugenRacerX
What kind of crack are you smoking?????????? and can i have some? .....we just spend around 8000 or so doing the same engine swap....
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[hr]Originally posted by: MugenRacerX
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[hr]Originally posted by: kjgracing
Considering you can get a K20A engine swap for around $4K installed,
I would pay around $2,300 for the kit. ==-[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: kjgracing
Considering you can get a K20A engine swap for around $4K installed,
I would pay around $2,300 for the kit. ==-[hr]
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Reasonable price also means reasonable for what you're getting, and dishing out 4g's for an economy car to go slightly faster than the average car is not worth it.
-Aki
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a B16 drops straight, I MEAN, LITERALLY STRAIGHT into a del sol chassis.
a K20A does not drop straight into a 7thgen coupe... in fact, in a sense.. you gotta flip it around.
the fact that it is the K20A is where a lot of the money is involved... I really dont think that engine is going for around 4 grand flat. it should be a bit higher.
motor mount kit... subframe modification... tranny... ecu.. immobilizer.... just some of the issues you'll have to deal with that I can come up with on top of my head.
the problem is the engine doesn't just drop straight in, and you dont just plug everything up and have it work. this isn't some b16, b18 into a hatch...
I agreed that 8 grand is a lot, but thats the figure for doing such a swap so early in the game... how many other people you know is putting a K20A into a EM Civic?
how many K20A is out there for sale?
I dont think its practical to spend that amount of cash, but Greg and venomcivic isn't doing it for practical reasons. heh. I'm sure they know that they can just trade the civic in and get a WRX or an RSX Type S itself, use the left over money to make it faster. but thats not the point.
anyway, gotta agreed with you on the turbo.. if its a kit and he mass produce it... it should cost less than a custom kit. shouldn't cost more than going custom.
anyway lets stay on topic, its a turbo thread. heh. my bad.
a K20A does not drop straight into a 7thgen coupe... in fact, in a sense.. you gotta flip it around.
the fact that it is the K20A is where a lot of the money is involved... I really dont think that engine is going for around 4 grand flat. it should be a bit higher.
motor mount kit... subframe modification... tranny... ecu.. immobilizer.... just some of the issues you'll have to deal with that I can come up with on top of my head.
the problem is the engine doesn't just drop straight in, and you dont just plug everything up and have it work. this isn't some b16, b18 into a hatch...
I agreed that 8 grand is a lot, but thats the figure for doing such a swap so early in the game... how many other people you know is putting a K20A into a EM Civic?
how many K20A is out there for sale?
I dont think its practical to spend that amount of cash, but Greg and venomcivic isn't doing it for practical reasons. heh. I'm sure they know that they can just trade the civic in and get a WRX or an RSX Type S itself, use the left over money to make it faster. but thats not the point.
anyway, gotta agreed with you on the turbo.. if its a kit and he mass produce it... it should cost less than a custom kit. shouldn't cost more than going custom.
anyway lets stay on topic, its a turbo thread. heh. my bad.
Sorry bud but i would only pay 1,500-2,500....These members on here who say 4k are never going to come up with that kind of money mabye in a year or longer yes but not when you finish the kit...So finish a kit and then get back to us...
Also if you can get me a kit to push 4-8 Psi for a daily driver that thats good enough for me.
Also if you can get me a kit to push 4-8 Psi for a daily driver that thats good enough for me.
Yup, I agree. My limit to buying a turbo would be $2,500. The only problem I have is shipping... I live in Hawaii. Shipping parts down here costs a lot.
But would there be a kit for automatics also? Will there be one for an LX? Or does the model even matter?
Other than that, I am very interested!!!
But would there be a kit for automatics also? Will there be one for an LX? Or does the model even matter?
Other than that, I am very interested!!!
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