Jdm H22a or JDMB18c Gsr for civic hb??
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Jdm H22a or JDMB18c Gsr for civic hb??
i just bought a used civc hb without engine in there, the guy sold it to me for 4 hundred dollar!!! cash!!!
now i want to start my project...and start doing some research..just wondering which one better?? h22 or b18?? guys please give me some opinion..and i dont like someone talk shxt about my english...i just want u guys give me some opinion...peace~~
now i want to start my project...and start doing some research..just wondering which one better?? h22 or b18?? guys please give me some opinion..and i dont like someone talk shxt about my english...i just want u guys give me some opinion...peace~~
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Rep Power: 0 Personally, I prefer the B's. But the difference is more or less nominal. However, I know you gotta start slicing the bay with the H22. I dunno if it's the same with the B18, but I don't think so. I'm not an engine expert, so you might want to just ignore me. 
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Rep Power: 312 i'd do a B20c swap instead... all the glory of the b-series vtec, with the potential of more displacement than the GSR
BTW: b series parts will probably be cheaper than the h series parts.....i think...
info on B20 swap
B18c swap info
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BTW: b series parts will probably be cheaper than the h series parts.....i think...
info on B20 swap
B18c swap info
generally will be a good reference for you.
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[hr]Originally posted by: phlipsidez
I'd go with the prelude's H22. just to be different from all the B swappers.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: phlipsidez
I'd go with the prelude's H22. just to be different from all the B swappers.[hr]
me..none so far
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Rep Power: 0 JDM B18C would be the B18C with 210hp with 138 lb-ft of torque, Diplacement: 1797cc, redline 8900, JDM H22A would have 220hp i think not to sure about the all specs though. I would say JDM B18C.
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Rep Power: 0 i have two friends that have done this swap, the guy that did this into his hb had to cut away some parts of his frame to keep ac and powersteering. But man that thing hauls AZZZ in a hb. My friend that owns a shop acutally did it to a civic cpe, his prelude motor is stroked to a 3.0l hes got it in his race car but the motor is still being worked on right now. I say go with the h22, no one can tell its a prelude motor unless they look at the engine code. Other than that just tell everyone its an si motor.
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First of all... what year is it? I'll assume it's a 5th or 6th gen. I would say B because there's tons of parts. You could also look at a B18B and boost the hell out of it. The Non-VTEC engine is better for turbocharging. But it depends which way you want to go.
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Rep Power: 0 H22 is too big for a daily driver.
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Rep Power: 0 well that depends on how much aftermarket modification you intend on doing?.... H22a's have oil burning and are historically not as reliable of bullet proof as the B series engines...it's also a fair chunk heavier and will cause your car to be too front heavy..(great fro dragging.. kind of negtive for handling)..
If you plan on adding a turbo.. definately a B18B 1.8 non vtec..it's the most bulletproof honda engine on the market. and vtec is of no advantage when you have boost and all that torque low down anyhow...
If you wanna be one of the few....get a B20z and B16 heads and a GSR computer but don't think of boosting it or running nitrous because the B20 blocks can't handle F/I all too well...
If you plan on adding a turbo.. definately a B18B 1.8 non vtec..it's the most bulletproof honda engine on the market. and vtec is of no advantage when you have boost and all that torque low down anyhow...
If you wanna be one of the few....get a B20z and B16 heads and a GSR computer but don't think of boosting it or running nitrous because the B20 blocks can't handle F/I all too well...
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Rep Power: 0 in a hatch, you will have to chuck the AC and power steering. ie no good for a daily driver, less your super harcore... which i dont believe to be the case here. dont get me wrong, my friend has a 92 Si hatch with an all motor H22A that pulls high 12s, but against, its not his only car. He has a turbo GSR for that.
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[hr]Originally posted by: XxJDMCivicxX
JDM B18C would be the B18C with 210hp with 138 lb-ft of torque, Diplacement: 1797cc, redline 8900, JDM H22A would have 220hp i think not to sure about the all specs though. I would say JDM B18C.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: XxJDMCivicxX
JDM B18C would be the B18C with 210hp with 138 lb-ft of torque, Diplacement: 1797cc, redline 8900, JDM H22A would have 220hp i think not to sure about the all specs though. I would say JDM B18C.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 in case i was too subtle in my previous approach... GETTING A JDM ENGINE IS A WASTE OF MONEY.
that is all.
that is all.
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[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
in case i was too subtle in my previous approach... GETTING A JDM ENGINE IS A WASTE OF MONEY.
that is all.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
in case i was too subtle in my previous approach... GETTING A JDM ENGINE IS A WASTE OF MONEY.
that is all.[hr]
N/A.. B20 Frankenstein..
Turbo B18b [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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[hr]Originally posted by: mohawkboom
Bigtime.. most yes MOST JDM engines are high mileage beaten to hell engines..often with mish mash parts and part number sequences that don't match.. for the price you can take a USDM engine *** a few bolt-ons and have more power for less money.
N/A.. B20 Frankenstein..
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[hr]Originally posted by: mohawkboom
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[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
in case i was too subtle in my previous approach... GETTING A JDM ENGINE IS A WASTE OF MONEY.
that is all.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
in case i was too subtle in my previous approach... GETTING A JDM ENGINE IS A WASTE OF MONEY.
that is all.[hr]
N/A.. B20 Frankenstein..
Turbo B18b [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG][hr]
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thank you guys... thanks for the opinion.......i think most of u gonna get b18...
well...i have to check the price......on ebay..
i will get b18 as well....thanks again
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first off if u are gonna do a b motor you go with a b20 bottom end with a type r head. thats the best combo.
and if you go with a h22 you should find a h23 bottom end with a h22 head. if you use the h motor you will have to carry lead bags in your back hatch to keep the back end down with turning. and it will run mid to low 13's stock! u could go with the b motor and run a lot of boost thro it i have seen them running mid 11's.
and if you go with a h22 you should find a h23 bottom end with a h22 head. if you use the h motor you will have to carry lead bags in your back hatch to keep the back end down with turning. and it will run mid to low 13's stock! u could go with the b motor and run a lot of boost thro it i have seen them running mid 11's.
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Shut the hell up. I trust anything you say about as far as you’d get with a seized piston.
Why dont you go ahead and reccomend a 24K gold plated valve cover while you are at it? Talk about a waste of money.
Shut the hell up. I trust anything you say about as far as you’d get with a seized piston.
Why dont you go ahead and reccomend a 24K gold plated valve cover while you are at it? Talk about a waste of money.
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[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
Lead bags?!
Shut the hell up. I trust anything you say about as far as you’d get with a seized piston.
Why dont you go ahead and reccomend a 24K gold plated valve cover while you are at it? Talk about a waste of money.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
Lead bags?!
Shut the hell up. I trust anything you say about as far as you’d get with a seized piston.
Why dont you go ahead and reccomend a 24K gold plated valve cover while you are at it? Talk about a waste of money.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 i gaurentee you that the h22 motor is to heavy for that car and it will cause the back end to kick out when u turn. thats why u put the lead bags over each tire in the back. my friend has the swap done to his hb
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Rep Power: 0 If that’s the case (and in case you aren’t lying like you do with everything else) then kick him in the nuts for being a moron. Either for thinking he needs lead bags or for screwing up the car so much during the swap that he actually DOES need them.
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[hr]Originally posted by: XxJDMCivicxX
LOL, instead of a 24k just get a chromed out one save urself some money [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
Lead bags?!
Shut the hell up. I trust anything you say about as far as you’d get with a seized piston.
Why dont you go ahead and reccomend a 24K gold plated valve cover while you are at it? Talk about a waste of money.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
Lead bags?!
Shut the hell up. I trust anything you say about as far as you’d get with a seized piston.
Why dont you go ahead and reccomend a 24K gold plated valve cover while you are at it? Talk about a waste of money.[hr]
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by the way, i got 95 model hb..
good deal for 4 hundred?? without motor....[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
by the way, i got 95 model hb..
good deal for 4 hundred?? without motor....[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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[hr]Originally posted by: XxJDMCivicxX
JDM B18C would be the B18C with 210hp with 138 lb-ft of torque, Diplacement: 1797cc, redline 8900, JDM H22A would have 220hp i think not to sure about the all specs though. I would say JDM B18C.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: XxJDMCivicxX
JDM B18C would be the B18C with 210hp with 138 lb-ft of torque, Diplacement: 1797cc, redline 8900, JDM H22A would have 220hp i think not to sure about the all specs though. I would say JDM B18C.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 the usdm B18C1 is more than enough for me however it woulda been better with a C5
dont bother with the H22 unless you know what your doing (which you obviously dont if your asking this question) unless you want your car to have major suspension problems
dont bother with the H22 unless you know what your doing (which you obviously dont if your asking this question) unless you want your car to have major suspension problems
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[hr]Originally posted by: NeoMagus
the usdm B18C1 is more than enough for me however it woulda been better with a C5
dont bother with the H22 unless you know what your doing (which you obviously dont if your asking this question) unless you want your car to have major suspension problems[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: NeoMagus
the usdm B18C1 is more than enough for me however it woulda been better with a C5
dont bother with the H22 unless you know what your doing (which you obviously dont if your asking this question) unless you want your car to have major suspension problems[hr]
