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Old Jan 5, 2003
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Why the D16 manifold won't work

This thread is in responce to one started the other day. I started a new one for clarification, please don't lock or delete it.

Sorry about that poor quality, first time posting pics hope it works got to open the attachment, sorry

It looks like there are a number of problems that are there. First thing I looked at was the shape of the ports on each manifold each gasket has an oval shape with a semi-circle at the top. they are close in shape but have a slightly different shape but that could be fixed, trim it up with a grinder of some sort and it could still work. But that is the gasket Look at part #7 for the d17 engine. That extra part that the d16 doesn't have is just where the injectors and fuel rail hook up but the d16 has the injectors hooked up on to the intake manifold itself. You will more then likely have to use the fuel rail from the d16 if the spacing between the injectors are different and that fuel rail is set up for a return system, I'm not a fuel system expert but it I don't think they will interchange easly, I'm not sure how the returnless part would work into all that. Aswell the spacing inbetween the ports on the two would have to be the same. There is a good chance they aren't. I believe the spacing is infact a little different but don't quote me on that.

The throdle body on the two are in different postions. Looking under the hood of my car it doesn't look like space would be a problem but I couldn't say for sure unless I had a d16 manifold infront of me. As long as it clears the space the only problem would be that you would need a new custom intake.

The two intake manifolds are just too different. I would say getting it to work is beyond your average mechanics work. If the spacing is off then it won't work. Does anyone have a pic of a d16 manifold the I could double check spacing on?
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if i could see the pic i could hraple and help yall out. good post tho. i know it can fit with a LOT of work tho. get someone esle to post it. i really wanna see it!
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you do know that the d16 manifold has been put on 2 d17s already, that were modified , i have seen them with my own eyes. The ports do not look to be off by that much at all.
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cool, what did they do to modify them?
How did they get around the ports being off?
and did they have to use a different fuelrail?
did they modify a stock one or a aftermarket one?

I'm not being a smart ***. I really would like to know cuz Like I said above its doesn't look easy, some serious work would need to be done it's not an easy switch out.
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[hr]Originally posted by: MugenRacerX
you do know that the d16 manifold has been put on 2 d17s already, that were modified , i have seen them with my own eyes. The ports do not look to be off by that much at all.[hr]
are they on da site.... you should tried to post some pix for us...
cause this might be helpful
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i think i have some pics that i took of one of the cars.. i know one guy has em posted.. and ive posted them before too.... but lemme see if i can find mine.
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cool thanks MugenRacerX.
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HELP ME I want one of those focus intakes were can i get one [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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a really really good performance shop could do it for some mega bucks. it'd be hard work so i'd pick a very reputable place that does this specific kind of work.

i'm gonna go out on a limb here. i thing once we replace that nasty OEM intake manifold and put on a high flow intake manifold you could be looking at a soild +20 HP.
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Ifi recall, ithimk it was 600 bucks to have done. and they reported very good gains. Ashop in St louis does this
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Thats on an LX/DX too...intersting.
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its is an LX for refrence, the other car i saw it on was an EX.
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Why the D16 manifold won't work (pic works now)..way want to edit the titel to.....how im wrong about the d16 manifold swap...... or..... the d16 manifold DOES work.............kiddin jokin,...but you should lay the facts straight
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notice that teh throtle body is not in the same spot!
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I could see much from the picture, which fuelrail did they use and what machining did they have to do to get it to fit?
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notice that teh throtle body is not in the same spot![hr]

yes..kind of hard NOT to notice that....
 
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