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Ok let me see if I have everthing straight about exhaust systems as I was searching. (Maybe I can help out some other newbies too).
A muffler with custom pipe will be loud (i hope I am right??)
Loud Meduim Quiet Muffler/rear section Full Cat-back Deep Tone Weed-Eater
Greddy- x x x x
MagnaFlow- x x x x
DC- x x x
Thermal- x x x ? ?
Apexi x x ? ?
Reactive x x ? ?
HKS x x x
OBX ? ? ? x x ? ?

ok I hope this helps some people out, it's helping me out on the type of exhaust I want. I have decided on greddy or thermal or OBX (winter here they put alot of salt down. Maybe we can add to this help me out with sound of the cat-backs, and mufflers guys [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] (I would like to know if the OBX exhaust is loud, quiet, or if it's not to loud but not quiet either, and if it has a weed-eater sound or deep tone? also with the Thermal too)

 
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Oh ok everyone sorry about how is posted, I thought the "X" would go under everything...::sighs::

 
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i don't know what your post meant but in most cases, pipe diameter will determine loudness. the design will as well. mufflers that are straight will be louder

 
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ok, if your gonna do a custom exhaust that sounds good....2.25" piping is good and also put on a resinator....as for a muffler, straight mufflers (like tha apex'i N1) are loud..but with tha resinator it sounds nice and deep...thats what i got, so just tellin from my experience..and i love my exhaust

 
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my DC sports TCS is quite loud....but it has more of a POWERful tone to it, not just noise.

 
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You forgot about Tanabe there are several members WAITING for this one in August I AM

 
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My TCS sounds just right. Nice tone and no ricey or weed wacker sound from the TCS.

 
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yeah guys I was going to make a chart, so us newbies could just look at that than keep asking the same questions over and over. But it didn't turn out the way I wanted too. BTW, so a 2.5" custom pipe with resonator, and say an HKS muffler would sound not like a weed-eater? I thought if you put a custom pipe on it would make your car louder, and than a cat-back. I also thought that a cat-back would give you more horsepower (well with most car instead of our ULEV civics) than a custom pipe?? Now I am confused. Now should I get a custom job done, and good muffler or a cat-back. I want a nice deep tone, not too loud, but it can be heard. I was thinking of either Greddy, but when it's winter here the state road guys dump the salt on the roads when they say the word snow, then I was wondering about Thermal. I have never heard the sound on a thermal exhaust. I was also looking at OBX, but yet again I don't know what they sound like. Any info would help. Now let me see if I can make a better chart out for us newbies.

 
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i've had the tcs since december and i love it. no problems and the sound is music to my ears, i could listen to it all day

 
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2.5" piping with a res and a good muffler, like hks wouldnt sound ricey, it would sound pretty deep and loud. Loudness depends on tha size of tha piping, and use of a resinator, so custom isnt neccesarily louder than a cat back....actually they're probably about tha same if u get tha job done right...one of tha main differences with custom and a complete system is that custom is usually crush bent, rather than mandrel bent...which means its a little more constrictive..but u wont really notice too much...if u do want mandrel bends on custom piping, i heared magnaflow sells mandrel bends.

 
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oh yeah, dont get OBX, my friend got one on his car and it sounded like crap....

 
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AROSPEED has the best sound, get 2.25 piping, and keep ur resinator

 
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OBX is more like Ractive
and they are quite loud..the 5Zigen fireball is very loud WITHOUT the resonator...but with it is sweet sound
i love the DC TCS and the Mugen Twin loop the most