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Old Jun 19, 2002
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haha, yes.... i am still new to this thing, and i've been asking around. now, since i've been in the forum(back in october) members have said how no other engine can fit in the car, besides the k20. those statements cause htown to swap a k20 into his car now. yesterday, iw as at a friend's house(he does a lot of car work) and he was working on a crx, and when i looked at the crx, the enine bay don't seem that much bigger than ours, but it can fit b16 in it? infact, the guy that was driving the crx said my enginebay looks deeper than his crx(?) and then i asked a friend joe, he said with some welding and custom engine mounts, he is almost sure i can fit a b18c(teg type-r?) into my car... ? so i simply want to refreash WHY we can't fit anything BUT k20 in to our vehicle.
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cause thats how it is dont ask questions JK lol i dunno maybe the whole fact of putting an older engine in a newer car .... also the k20 is the next big thing for honda why not put the next best thing for honda in your car[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG] . anywhoot i think if i had about 10k right about now id have a jdm k20 in my car but i dont so i dont have a jdm k20 in my car but dosent mean i wont later on muhahahahaha[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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if u have the money, and 4 banger engine can fit under the hood...one mechanic laughed at me when i said "i think only an rsx engine will fit"
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the big problem with the engine swap in the 2001- civics is that the d17motor spins backwards as opposed to the k or b series engines. the body mounts are 180 degrees different than with most other hondas, i have yet to see anything being done yet. but i'm sure somebody will think of something sooner or later. check out this months issue of honda tuning for more details. peace
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If Stephan can put a h22a in a 2k1 civic why could you not fit anything such as the
b18c5 motor in one.


Name: Stephan Papadakis
Team: AEM Drag Civic
Class: Modified
Birthdate: February 8, 1977
Hometown: Redondo Beach, Calif.
Cars: 2001 Honda Civic Coupe
Engine: Turbocharged 2.2-liter Prelude VTec
Crew chief: Greg Nakano
Sponsors: AEM, DVS Shoe Co., GReddy Performance Products, Toyo Tires, Honda North America
Website: stephanpadakis.com
Best e.t.: 8.12 seconds
Best speed: 180.00 mph
Career highlights: 2001 NIRA Pro Front Wheel Drive Points Champion
2001 IDRC Outlaw champion
2000 IDRC Outlaw Class Runner Up
2000 Turbo Magazine Outlaw class racer of the year
1999 SEMA Import Racer of the Year
First Honda to break 9 seconds
First front-wheel drive to break 8 seconds
First front-wheel drive to break 160 mph
First front-wheel drive to break 170 mph
First front-wheel drive to break 180 mph
2000 NIRA Pro Comp Champion


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[hr]Originally posted by: 1slo2k1civic
If Stephan can put a h22a in a 2k1 civic why could you not fit anything such as the
b18c5 motor in one.


Name: Stephan Papadakis
Team: AEM Drag Civic
Class: Modified
Birthdate: February 8, 1977
Hometown: Redondo Beach, Calif.
Cars: 2001 Honda Civic Coupe
Engine: Turbocharged 2.2-liter Prelude VTec
Crew chief: Greg Nakano
Sponsors: AEM, DVS Shoe Co., GReddy Performance Products, Toyo Tires, Honda North America
Website: stephanpadakis.com
Best e.t.: 8.12 seconds
Best speed: 180.00 mph
Career highlights: 2001 NIRA Pro Front Wheel Drive Points Champion
2001 IDRC Outlaw champion
2000 IDRC Outlaw Class Runner Up
2000 Turbo Magazine Outlaw class racer of the year
1999 SEMA Import Racer of the Year
First Honda to break 9 seconds
First front-wheel drive to break 8 seconds
First front-wheel drive to break 160 mph
First front-wheel drive to break 170 mph
First front-wheel drive to break 180 mph
2000 NIRA Pro Comp Champion


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because the only thing that is a civic about it is the customized body -_- there is nothing on that car that's like ours, hell it doesn't even have a enginebay limitation!

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Why you fools talkin about my car!!!![IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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"Mr. Clean" had the H22 block put in sideways so damn, that's a lot of money right there for fitting the engine under our hood
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that's not a 7th gen.. that's some sort of race-fuel guzzling monster that's not doing a good job of pretending to be a 7thgen
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I bet those headlights don't even work either[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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those "headlights" are painted there.
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Here's a couple of problems I see with a B-series swap:
DIS(distributorless ignition system: our cars have it, and we would have to swap it out for an older distributor-based system)
RFS(returnless fuel system)you better believe you need a loop system to make a b-series engine work.
Legal problems(I'm pretty sure it's illegal to swap in a motor that's from an older model year than your car.)
The B-series spins the same direction as our engines do, but the K-series swap sounds much more feasible to me.
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IMO i say who cares if its illegal if it can be done do it.
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It is illegal...the problem is if you get caught having one in there, you're probably going to get some hefty fines...
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d'oh! mfker....
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Yeah, that civic......is just a shell over a "COMPLETE" custom built chasis.......!
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To the person who brought up Papadakis, read THIS

and The D17 series spins like all the old Honda motors do, it is the K series that is new and sits backwards.
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[hr]Legal problems(I'm pretty sure it's illegal to swap in a motor that's from an older model year than your car.)[hr]
It depends on what state you live in. If you have a 2001 civic, than you could get the engine out of a 2001 GSR or Type R. As far as all those problems listed about the differences in fuel and ignition systems. It would be better to have the return fuel system if you plan on doing any kinds of mods that would require more fuel, then that is the fuel system you would need. Distributor isnt that bad. It's also easier to create a better spark too. The main problem is with the ecu. Basically, everything would have to be swapped.

Someone on here tried to fit a b18 into the 7th gen, and the shock tower interfered with the engine. When Honda changed the suspension to Macphearson strut, it pushed everything forward and up, giving you more legroom, but less engine bay room.
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dammit,

I am sick and tired of the stupidity of the people who keep posting messages about b series swaps. it makes it so damn difficult to find good info. BTW i myself am interested in a b series because it might possibly mate to my CVT Tranny. Something i believe might be impossible with a k series.

Anyway, as far as swappable b series engines, heres a list
2001 DOHC Vtec Integra (b16 - 160hp)
2001 Integra ALL OTHERS (b18 - various ratings)
2001 CR-V (b20 - ???)
others im sure

so dammit, quit saying its illegal, its getting damn old.

oh yeah everyone keeps telling everyone to search because there is so much info, but look around, they are all dead ends like this one. There isn't ant REAL info i've seen

PS: does anyone know if its possible to fit a CR-V engine with a b16 head (or other into a 2k1 hx coupe and mate it to the CVT transmission (dont post that bs about the amout of torque the cvt can handle cause ive researched that and found no real evidence)

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