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check this out i got some figures from a horsepower calculator its not perfect but mathmaticly an object with a certan weight and hp can go so far (1/4mile) in x amount of time i figured it with my 02 lx coupe so i can estimate how fast i might go for my hp so here it is in this order dyno hp, flywheel hp, and 1/4 time
d 88hp, f 115hp=18sec.
d 105hp, f 136hp=17sec.
d 125hp, f 163hp=16sec.
d 152hp, f 198hp=15sec.
d 187hp, f 243hp=14sec.
i thought it was cool check it out at www.theburnoutbox.com

 
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iono but need to have 200 at the crank seems like alot jus to run 15's

 
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, pretty good job. Think about it, a RSX-s has about the much power and does the 1/4 in about 15 sec.

Edit: SCC tested 4 different RSX-S's from Grredy, DC, Flexalite and Toda. They all ran 15.0 Stock.

 
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i thought the rsx type s ran the 1/4 in 14s.

 
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Your drivetrain loses might be a little off but Im not sure. People on newcelica.org have been telling me that with 180hp at the crank, gts's get about 160-165 to the wheels. I dont know what the actualy percentage of loss is through the drivetrain, but you defintely have a good start.

 
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i dont believe those stats are right... think it has a lot to do with the HP/tourque to weight ratio...

 
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<< Your drivetrain loses might be a little off but Im not sure. People on newcelica.org have been telling me that with 180hp at the crank, gts's get about 160-165 to the wheels. I dont know what the actualy percentage of loss is through the drivetrain, but you defintely have a good start. >>



yeah i been to a RSX forum and they had there dyno charts with the RSX-S at 175.8hp to the wheels

 
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<< , pretty good job. Think about it, a RSX-s has about the much power and does the 1/4 in about 15 sec.

Edit: SCC tested 4 different RSX-S's from Grredy, DC, Flexalite and Toda. They all ran 15.0 Stock. >>

If you think the RSX Type S runs 15s then it definitely OWNS YOU. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG] The GS-R runs 15s... LOW 15s to high 14s stock and with the added power to the Type S, it can run low to mid 14s...

Plus you have to take in consideration that it's not always the car that makes the good or bad time, it's the skill of the driver.

Magazine stats suck. Those stats will even tell you that a Type R could run low 15s when it's just as capable as doing low to mid 14s as the Type S.

And our cars... the first quarter mile stat I saw posted was 16.9 for an EX. For that, you might as well say the car runs stock at 17 seconds when in reality to can do mid to low 16s stock... with a good driver... high 15s.

 
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Its a good 20% loss of power to the flywheel.

 
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<< If you think the RSX Type S runs 15s then it definitely OWNS YOU. The GS-R runs 15s... LOW 15s to high 14s stock and with the added power to the Type S, it can run low to mid 14s... >>



Well then, if you dont believe me, go pick up the June 02 issue of SCC and look for yourself. They all ran 15.0 stock.

 
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You got to look at other factors before you think that you can run high 15's. The weight of the car, the driver, stuff like that. Take a riced out 2k1, a crappy driver, and it might not run a high 17. Put a good driver and it might get high 16's. de-rice it, and it might run high 15's, but thats pushing it.

 
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there is a ton of variables like and auto has more losses of power than a stick and unless u have a nice stall in ur torque converter then ur even slower also altitude most cars run over a second slower where i live than at sea level any way its just an estimate to show how fast u might run with x amount of hp

 
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rsx-s is not fast....rsx regular IS NOT FAST AT ALL....

 
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Sheesh hasn't N E 1 taken their car to the track?

Check this....I have run my car at the track through about 40 passes. All different kinds of variables. 1st off i am a very consistent driver. I first took my car to the track with stock tires, AEM CAI, DC header(shorty), Stock cat back. left all added parts like my APR drag wing and seats (Driver and Passenger Sparco tournio) in my car.
I ran a 16.834 @ 82.16 launch @ 4500RPM
60 ft/ 2.596
330 ft/ 7.296
1/8 /10.905@65.8MPH throughout the rest of the day i stayed within .15 sec's of that.

added Apexi j-spec with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipe DC rear lower and front upper. With my RH evo CP10's (205/40/17 on paradas) on back only. that means stockies up front.
i ran a best of 16.489@84.82
60 ft 2.577
330ft 6.98
1/8 10.625@67.33 MPH ran that all day with only .18 differences(slower)

took out pass seats front and back, spare tire and took off APR wing (which only weighed 14.7 lbs but might cause too much drag.) I also added an NX WET kit hitting a 50 shot. Stage 3 CM clutch. i also put the paradas on the front (205/40/17) to see the traction difference. too much traction it turned out...[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG] had crazy wheel hop with 2.9/ 60 ft times
Launch problems early because i had to find a launchable RPM i finally had to tach it up to rev-limiter launches to get the wheels to spin...Of course with no juice out of the hole silly ppl....that just spins ridiculously. the last two runs of the day were okay but i would have to red line launch to keep the wheels from hopping. i then ran two back to back runs...
15.310@ 81.64 (yes its slower...not sure y but it might have been fuel cut off at the end of the track)
.872 reaction
2.596 60 ft
6.685 330 ft
9.970 1/8 @ 74.83

Next....i am upping the anty with the fuel delivery, shaving more weight (carbon hood, trunk, and possibly fenders) I am also gonna get a set of BF goody drag radials, but bringing the stockies to test them out as well to get a base of how much difference the BF's make. should get that all done in the next 2-3 weeks.

so...the moral of the story is....stop asking what your car will run...stop analyzing HP for 1/4 Mile times.....
AND GO RACE YER CAR!!!
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG] whats the point in trying to do all you can to make it go faster....if you dont race it. (legally on a track) if anyone else has posted better times show me .........

 
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Horsies are for riding..what actually matters is your torque curve. Horsepower is a derivitive of torque...

It's more commonly accepted because of marketing. Thinking of 300 horses powering your car seemed alot better than how much twisting force the engine had. Now it's a mainstay, but it's still the torque curve that determines power.....peak numbers don't always reflect the performance of a car.

A guy who runs at the track here often runs a B18C1 n/a setup running 260hp at the wheels.. he runs mid 15's.. Why.. he has alot of trouble pulling off the line because of how little power he has.

an RSX type S has 183hp@ the wheels (last I recall anywho) and runs low 15's. But has a much more even torque curve and has power clean through it's powerband.

Food for thought..

 
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I have test driven an RSX-S, and my legs were shaking when I got done. The car is awesome in my opinion. Not really pushing the car, I was already at 80 mph shifting into 5th gear out of the 6. This is on winding roads no less. There was no body lean, and the leather seats hug like a glove. I didn't move an inch even in hard turns. If I had the money, I would get one in a second. I love that car.

 
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I do not think the RSX-S has 183lbs of torque, I think its 148lbs and the RSX is 147lbs. Can't confirm this, but maybe someone else can. I think a car w/ 183lbs of torque should run better than 15's?

 
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I said 183 horsies at the wheels..not torque [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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<< I said 183 horsies at the wheels..not torque [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] >>



The Type S has around 170 hp at the wheels bone stock. Add an intake and exhaust and you're around 185-190. When I see Type S's at the track they're usually running mid 14's stock. The ones who are using nitrous have broken into the very high 13's.

About your friend with the B18C1 (260 whp) who is running 15's - that is an extremely poor time for so much horsepower. What RPM is he launching at?