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Old Apr 30, 2002
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need car audio advice please!!

ok i have a friend who has this AMP and he has this ENCLOSURE ,..... ok now my question is, can he safely bridge his amp to one channel and run the subs in series or something like that??? (i.e. take the positive on one sub and connect it to the negative on the other sub, and run positive from the amp to the positive on the other sub and the negative to the open negative on the sub?? hope this isnt confusing, a real audio tech will understand i hope.

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you should have posted this in the I.C.E. forum. it will probably be moved there soon.
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Sorry about posting in the wrong area, if I infact did. I was just looking for some "Tech"nical asistance.
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IMO the subs can handle anything that amp in particular could give it, i dont think that the amp itself has the potential to do that with. running that one amp to one of the subs is more reasonable. u always run the risk of blowing subs from to little power do to distortion. ive done this numerous times and its a pain in the ***. its liek to little power blew my sub. wtf. thats just my input im sure someone else will comment to
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Thanks,
me and 2 other buddies of mine run the amp like i described above, weve had them for a long time, and are all happy with it, but, we also listen to our music "responsibly" [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] (not saying that you dont.) so im pretty sure the amp could handle it.
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First off, know the exact type of subs would help. That enclosure page doesn't seem to disclose what subs they are.

Secondly, tell you friend to return on or the other, because he is giong to be VERY disappointed at his sound.

To answer your question, by reading the enclosure page, it is wired in 4-ohm stereo, meaning that each sub is 4-ohm and wants to be hooked to the left and right side of a 2-channel amp. If you did that (hook the left sub up to the left channel on the amp and the right side up to the right channel on the amp) each sub would only be getting 100w. Not gonna be very impressive on a sub that can handle 400w RMS (I'm assuming that's what it is by the enclosure page, once again). Hooking the subs up in SERIES like you talked would increase the impedance to 8 ohms. Now assuming you bridged that to the amp, your gonna get 150w total, split to each sub, making 75w to each sub. This amp cannot handle a 2-ohm bridge, so you cannot wire the subs in parallel for a 2-ohm load, so don't even try it.

My recommendation is to go by a 2-ohm mono stable amp that pushes around 600w at that level. Your friend will be MUCH more satisfied, but he may have to put down a little more money.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that setup just isn't gonna work. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG]
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just to second what bryn said......i worked in a car audio store and he's absolutely right. you will be dissapointed. SUGGESTION..........go with the new line of JL Audio amps because they reset themselves to the optimum ohmload everytime you turn it on(which means you can still have stereo quality sound because you don't have to wire in parrallel) and the amp will hold up longer with the 4 ohm load vs. the 2 ohm load. i personally own one and sold them until recently and i can vouch-they do put out the same power at 2 ohms vs. 4 ohms.

wow.....it's nice to finally be able to contribute-like i actually knew about something!! lata fellas
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ME AGAIN!! alright i failed to read the page before i replied......apparently bryn can't read because it clearly states that that amp is stabble down to 2 ohms......i still recommend the JL Audio, but that amp would do nicely
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now that you see the amp is 2ohm stable do you think the subs will be able to handle that amp bridged being that they are 4 ohm subs?
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hey check out the attachment and wire them up like this to the amp. wiring them in parellel will pull more current from your amp an dpush the subs a bit harder. only do this if your amp is 2 0hm stable in mono!!


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Ok, i didn't see that little comment at the bottom about 2-ohm stable. Looks like that amp would be okay for the situation then. Go with the parallel wiring as bluestreak said. Sounds like things are gonna work out after all. Sorry for the confusion.
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ok heh, i dont mean to make things more complex but,.... wouldnt the diagram in civicbluestreak's drawing make it 8 ohm where the 2 ohm is at the amp?? i believe it only becomes 2 ohm when you link the positive on one sub with the negative on the other sub. and run the amp bridged to the remaining positive and negative on both the subs. right?
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wiring the amp in parallel can cut the amp life in half, and could blow it up ... its not recommended to do that , yes it can hit harder, but it can also become a nice hand warmer then too !!!
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ya but when the amp is only 120 dollars.... do you really worry about it?? and we are still talking about 2-3 years of life anyway. about it blowing up???? hmmm im not sure about that. could melt or fry something, but its in a well open area. air can easily get to it no problem at all
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civicbluestreak's diagram was correct, sorry for doubting you, and thanks for the info. i dont think i want to run in series, i was thinking about running in parallel.
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Ask mohawkboom, he is really stright foward and clear with his answers. He wont steer you wrong.
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I asked mohawk, thanks for the tip [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
 
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