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Old May 11, 2006
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A different view on mods

There are lots and lots of threads all over about how to get more HP out of your Civic. Turbo, nitro, 4-2-1 headers, all that is nice, but...

I'm more interested in the idea of doing something about the Civic's low end. I don't really give a damn about racing--I just want my little old '02 LX to have a little more fun playing in traffic.

What kinds of mods can you do to improve a Civic down low where I (and most folks) drive? What kind of sacrifices are you making (other than cash) when you make these mods?

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low end as in TQ? ... nothing =( civic engines have almost no TQ. you can always take off your LX head and put on a EX head. VTEC!!
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im sure there are plenty of low end enhancing mods, you just have to sacrafice something else. He's talking about sacraficing peak hp numbers to pull out better low end figures. Any ideas?
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good mod.. apexi world Sports II cat back. other than that.. ummm
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weapon-r secret intake. seriously, its the only one that gives better pull from a stop, better than stock.
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good luck with that
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Remove electrical components. Remove your air conditioner, power steering, even stereo and alarm equipment

Weight reduction. Remove rear seats and any other equipment that weights your car down. Get lighter wheels - forged alloy 14inch with light weight tires
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yup great info. get HVS-GT too, it works well. it hard to actually mod the engine for torque cause well its a hi rev engine by design. if you want torque, get a domestic
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That is alot of work for no serious gain. Getting lighter wheels is a good idea for a little more torque and power, as well as better gas mileage.

Just save your time and money, and maybe do some research. And then if you are serious do something serious. Why waste $800 bucks on an exhaust for like 5hp and a sound?
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$800 on an exhaust???? there are a bunch way less than that. The weapon r intake requires you to move the fuse box tho right?
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low end torque you say?
Small turbo. All the low end you want.

There's very little you can do to shift the power band around, but stuffing 6 or 8 lbs in there at 2000 RPMs is about as good as you'll be able to do. No displacement leads to no bottom end.
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^^Exactly. The size of the motor will seriously limit its na tq potential but things like a long tube header(which works for v8's) is suppost to give it more bottom end. Maybe a cam change but all I see is the turbo if you want some better numbers. Is it true you can adjust where the turbo kicks in almost like dailing in where you want the power?? I am retarded when it comes to boost.
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That's all I wanted to hear. So turbo it is! Great thread. Informative for us mechanically challenged
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i was just wondering the same thing.

yeah i think i wanan do a head swap then a turbo. maybe a smallb ottle of nitrouse and redo the internals as much as i can

port and polish i hear helps but dont know where tof ind someone here who can do that...
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Ya, what does a port and polish really achieve? Better flow, yes, but for numbers? Any thread with this info?

I would look into any engine building shop in your area. THey should be able to do it, but I reccomend doing some homework on the companies you look at first, just so that they don't fvck up your head or that they are a hack and smash outfit
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yup iw illa nd ill have a cotnract prior that any issue's with the engine after wards is to be dealt with by them

i will videoa nd audio record the engine heavily before any mods are done by shops.s o i have the proof it was running fine.
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$800 on an exhaust???? there are a bunch way less than that. The weapon r intake requires you to move the fuse box tho right?
no actually i just moved mine to make room for the hvs and holder. it fits fine with everything stock.

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To get the numbers you have to do alot, however if you want a good play-power, go with a sri, 2.25 in exhaust, pulleys, 4-2-1 headers and ground wires. If you need a little more, lighten the flywheel and up your compression.
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maybe get a pulleys.grounding kit new flwheel.some head work or some cams and gear (could u change the gearing in our cars for better low end ) nitrous but that is way risky in the low end
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Yeah taht will really free up some power, and nitrous is a great way for him to get that low end power for daily driving LOL
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How does weapon R compares to K&N FIPK/FIPKII both bottom and top end.
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i've tried both, the K&N is more for top end, maybe 2whp and sounds terrible the weapon-r feels good all around with good throttle response and it sounds alot cooler.
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nothing, and next to nothing
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ya pretty much lol
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What about a heavier crank pulley? I know you'll have more rotating mass so you won't have the high end power as much but maybe an extra pound or two in the low.
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um no they dont make that, and a heavier pulley would make the engine work harder.
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Oh well, I asked.

I've had someone suggest as SMALL turbo or a supercharger, but I don't see where they make a s/c for the civic. F.I. is an interesting idea because the LX motor doesn't have the compression ratio that the EX motor does, so you can boost more without blowing your head gasket.

On the other side of the coin, I'm trying to move a Civic, not pull a house.

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small turbo is useless because it will either spool too fast and not create enough power, or just not create any power at all. A supercharger sounds nice but if your tryign to get good drivability, your gonna have to sacrafice alotta gas and it puts alot of extra strain on the engine for even daily driving because you are boosting so earlyon the powerband, everytime u get ont he throttle theres boost
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A small turbo is not useless.
S/c do not boost as much as turbos so the strain would not be unbearable, but it does not matter cause they would be pretty useless on the d17. they do not even make one.



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