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Old Sep 28, 2005
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I just bought a Power Enterprise VTEC Controller and it has to hook up to the MAP Sensor wire going to the ECU - i get to my ECU and look at all pictures (and verify from the DIY ECU wiring guide) But there is NO wire in that position!! I have a 2001 EX Coupe, whats the problem here>>>???
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Basically i dont have a MAP wire going to the ECU..... is this possible>>>????
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the vtec controller you want to use is prob made for older civic's and will not work with our type of vtec anyways. Please research next time.
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It says it supports the civic 01 d17a2 ??


Check this out... in the DIY ecu wiring guide, nothing shows for position 16... which is where this grn/red wire goes in at... think that could be the MAP sensor wire?

Connector A (31 Pins)
1-blk/wht-Primary O2 sensor heater control
2-yel/blk-Power Source
3-yel/blk-Power source
4-blk-Power ground
5-blk-Power ground
6-wht-Primary O2 sensor
7-blu-Crankshaft position
8-yel-Sensor return volt
9-red/blu-Knock sensor
10-grn/yel-Sensor ground
11-grn/wht-Sensor ground
12-blk/red-Idle air control valve
13-wht/blk-EGR Valve position VTEC ONLY
14-blk/wht-Secondary O2 sensor heater control
15-red/blk-Throttle position sensor
18-wht/grn-Vehicle speed sensor
19-grn/red-MAP Sensor
20-yel/blu-Sensor Voltage Supply
21-yel/red-Sensor Voltage Supply
23-brn/yel-Logic ground
24-brn/yel-logic ground
25-wht/red-Secondary O2 Sensor
26-grn-Top dead center sensor
27-brn-Igniton coil 4
28-wht/blu-coil 3
29-blu/red-coil 2
30-yel/grn-coil 1
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so do you think it will not work at all??

Look on this diagram, shows our car....

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/ma...roller/vtc.pdf
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Its a long shot... but I would try position 19-grn/red-MAP Sensor
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Yeah that would be great... but i dont have a wire going to that possition on my harness!! is this possible? i do have an EX and it is a d17a2 (vtec) weird....
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But..... this grn/red wire.... it does go to my ECU, just in position 16.... which is not documented on the ECU wiring harness guide here.... i dunno if thats the MAP wire or not... suggestions?
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get the repair manual and check it out.
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This sucks, even the place i bought it from said it would work withmy car.... /sigh
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anyone have any links for repair guide?
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Anyone want to buy it? Brand new
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wtf does it do? how much
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Follow the link up above... Its a VTEC controller and an air/fuel tweaker all in one gauge (also tach with max rev light - vtec engaged light - air/fuel gauge)- taps into current ecu/setup so realy easy, basicly just get behind glovebox and whalla...

Its the White Front Limited Edition. Works with i-VTEC ALSO

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Make sure you are looking at the correct ECU harness and if you are, try the grn/red wire. I would at least try it before you give up and sell the thing. I like Power Enterprise stuff (Especially their Z33 TT kit)
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Well in the diagram on the power enterprise installation PDF says same position as 7thgencivic.com's DIY section for the ECU wiring... Problem is, where they BOTH say, MY ecu does not have a wire going to the 19th postion, but DOES have this grn/red wire, but its on 16th position... which this sites ECU wiring guide does not list.....

suggestions?
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and when you say 'try it' - can this screw my engine or ECU if its wrong? im pretty sure it would....
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we can't help you because nobody here has that. I've been on the site since 2001 and have never seen that brand.
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we can't help you because nobody here has that. I've been on the site since 2001 and have never seen that brand.
Its prob cuss its so expensive cuss its got 3 things all in one guage and controlled at the guage... all in 60mm.. its really nice, really want to test it out.
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but beside the controller, answer this for me... why doesnt my 01 ex coupe have this MAP sensor wire in position 19??? and a red/grn wire in posittion 16 and the wriign chart not have 16 listed....???
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gearbox, any input on whether or not the my grn/red wire on my 16th position is the MAP sensor? Can anyone else see if their wires are setup like mine???
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i think if i can figure out what wires are what then i can probably make this thing work...

i cant find **** online and noral repair guides dont have ECU info....
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hell, go for it. Its supposed to go to a red/grn wire. its worth a try
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yeah thats what i was thinkin, but... its my daily car, how i get to work, etc... cant fugg it up or im screwed..
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can anyone with a vtec (d17a2) 01-05 civic look on their ecu harness and verify if you have a wire in the 19th position? and if you have the grn/red wire there or in the 16th position (on the top most harness) thanks!
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ok i got everything hooked up now... (sorry to bring from dead, but i still got problems now...) /sigh - liek i said its all hooked up and works when its off... when its on it stalls my engine out. I try to set the air/fuel spots just to keep the engine running idle and no luck. any suggestions as to where i should set the air/fuel increments and percents? just for idle?? thanks!
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after reading the previous posts it sounds like you have a lot on your hands here....you'd probably be better off selling it.....btw how much is exspensive?
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Well, i am officially an IDIOT, my buddy finally got around to helping me and i was reading the directions, well upside down... i was looking at the harness the wrong way...

so saying all that, everything hookd up fine etc... but now i cant get it to work while it is on....

so, .... i disconected the air/fuel part and works great as a tach and vtec engagement controller =) oh, btw - whats good engagement point for the d17?

yes, its still for sale i suppose, its in perfect condition still and all.... asking 150 shipped. Thanks!
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wow 150 shipped for all that sounds good, but with all the probs you had, u might have trouble finding a taker.



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