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Old Aug 4, 2005
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Hi guys im new to the forum and im sorry if I should have done a search. I just figered this to be a way to say hi. I have a few Q's to ask, I want to know if you can really make a 2001 civic EX with leather interer, sun roof, and a 5 speed FAST? I mean dont get me wrong I have the Intake,Header,and Exhast like every one else here. But is it worth the power pulles, Plasma Boosters, and what ever else you can do to these cars. With the motor thats in these cars and the pounds in the body it just doesnt make a very fast car. Agin im not hitting on my car I love it and iv out ran a few cars with it but what I want to know is should I focus on speed or looks? But just so you know I LOVE SPEED!!!!
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these cars arent worth crap when it comes to modifying for performance. If you want to go perfomance you have to swap. End of story
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Thats all I needed to know. I will put m money in to the looks..
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That is what I am doing. I love speed also, but with my 05 ex, it's more show than go. That is why I might trade it in for an Evo 8 or MR
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I would focus on the motor part? I like looks but u can make these crs fast?
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4-6 grand invested in new engine and parts will make the civic faster
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or you can go turbo for 3500 and it'll be pretty damn fast.
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it's either swap in a k series motor or turbo that bitc* cuz that's the only way u wont lose power puting "performance" parts on a d17. Since d17 and performance are not possiable together unless u force it to be (FI)
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http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=185927
read all this , it will educate you at what does what...
Track times.

I am against turbos..
Most members that are boosted have had nothing but problems.. Alot of the members that are boosted are now switching over to k20a's k20a2's

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Yea, I'm going with a K20A2 as well. I've heard my share of horror stories from turbocharging the D17 without 6g's in upgrades, which I would rather just swap out...
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I don't think so, unless you want to pay about 5 grand for a good swap
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I don't think so, unless you want to pay about 5 grand for a good swap

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swap, or buy an rsx-s if you want the same reliability and whatnot, and wanna stay with a honda.
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why not put speed into the vic. Sounds like alot of people dont want a challenge?
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=185927
read all this , it will educate you at what does what...
Track times.

I am against turbos..
Most members that are boosted have had nothing but problems.. Alot of the members that are boosted are now switching over to k20a's k20a2's
Most that are having problems usually dont take the time to do the research and dont have the basic knowledge/tools to repair/fix/fabricate stuff that is needed. Just like anything else in life , you get out of it what you put in to it!
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I just want a nice quick fun car!
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Originally Posted by allmotor
why not put speed into the vic. Sounds like alot of people dont want a challenge?

I am bulding my D17A2? I want to have a challenge not drop a new motor in thats no fun for me?
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Ok if I was going to go turbo, is there a compleate kit sold? I mean every thing is in this kit. E-Manigment and all.
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yes there is.

everyone who has broken their D17 has either done something wrong, didnt know how it worked, or did something stupid.

Everyone who is educated on how it all works, knows what to look/listen for, and **SERIOUSLY** kept their boost at a safe level has had no problems.

The problem with a turbo is that it is waaaay too easy to turn it up.
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Ok then what kit do you say I need to get? A kit that will not hurt my motor and will give me the best power.
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Read as much of you can!!!
Go to borders and read the five or six books they have on turbocharging and honda. They should have about three for each. Read everything on this site you can find related to turbocharging. Read magazines, even though they are more for fun!!!
To properely run a turbo you should know how to take it apart, so installing it will help.
By the way, Dezods kit is definitly the best!!!!
Also, turbocharging or swapping in a civic is not a waste of money, unless you think it is. With a d17 boosting 6-7 psi you will have a pretty fast car, especially for money invested. If you have the money then go for the swap, cause you can always boost that, unless you love your d17.
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hey what do you guys consider safe boost? i mean i know a guy who just got boosted a couple of weeks ago on his del sol. and his clutch is already slipping. hes running 5 psi on stock internals. how high can you go on a d17 with stock internals? is it even possible?
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do a swap u'll be very happy in the end and its worth every penny ..i did it and its very fun!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by MajinB
hey what do you guys consider safe boost? i mean i know a guy who just got boosted a couple of weeks ago on his del sol. and his clutch is already slipping. hes running 5 psi on stock internals. how high can you go on a d17 with stock internals? is it even possible?
2 people that I've talked to (one on the site, one that has installed many turbos on D17's) said that 6-7 psi boost for daily driving is just fine, as long as you remember DAILY DRIVING. That means shifting at normal RPM's. But I also heard one of the mods on here saying that our stock head gaskets blow at about 10 psi. The way that I've heard people talking about the internals of the D17, it doesn't sound like a motor/trans that's begging to be turboed... not like the K20A2
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
these cars arent worth crap when it comes to modifying for performance. If you want to go perfomance you have to swap. End of story
said the one who wants to put turbo on his civic (its in the public profile)..... lol
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Trans is good to 300 whp, i think barney did it. Also they upgraded it after 03'.
If you upgraded clutch, headstuds, HG, you could run 10 psi daily driver.
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I say trade in your vic and use the money that were going to use for turbo or swap and use it as a downpayment for a WRX. That's what I'm going to do. I love my vic, but 225 horses for a WRX with so much more potential for more horses is hard to resist.
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Originally Posted by MajinB
hey what do you guys consider safe boost? i mean i know a guy who just got boosted a couple of weeks ago on his del sol. and his clutch is already slipping. hes running 5 psi on stock internals. how high can you go on a d17 with stock internals? is it even possible?
Stock everything should be kept at 4psi and mild driving, upgraded clutch you can probably hit 6-7 psi with more agressive driving. Upgrade headgasket, clutch and fuel system maybe 10-12 psi. These are just some odservations I've made from turboed people on this website. Don't go over your limits and learn how stuff works and you're fine.

The MOST IMPORTANT thing is to tune your kit as soon as you get it on or get any upgrades to the system.

Delsol can have a B16A stock, that motor can take alot of crap before blowing up. But every car will fail under more power with a stock clutch. OEM clutchs are ment for OEM power, if they put a "better" clutch in, it will be harder to press, hence they put a weak clutch in, but strong enough to handle OEM power.

There is a vendor on this site that can help with your turbo setup, his name is Dezod, look him up, good guy
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Originally Posted by verzo70
I say trade in your vic and use the money that were going to use for turbo or swap and use it as a downpayment for a WRX. That's what I'm going to do. I love my vic, but 225 horses for a WRX with so much more potential for more horses is hard to resist.

To bad you loose alot of that power in the AWD system.
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To bad you loose alot of that power in the AWD system.
i completely agree
 
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