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Im having a huge debate is it even worth putting any money into the engine/exhaust or such?

right now im all show no go and im not feeling the whole modding internals w/ the 1.7 i have a 2001 LX coupe.

 
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i've had the i/h/e done and now my baby is boosted there is no replacement for displacement on our 1.7's. it will give better low end torque and a nice throaty sound but there is no real gains from bolt on's.

 
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if you searched why are you asking the question???

 
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because thru all the searchers all i saw is either go fi or get a k20 i was wondering keeping the same engine but w/ bolt on's do you get any gains.

 
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with bolt ons youll get at the most 5whp. so i would say swap or turbo

 
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I AGREE

 
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alright ty guys.

 
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turbo is the ultimate bolt on ha

 
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no bolt on crap

 
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ya i kinda got the point guys

 
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or nitrous...

 
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nitrous = bang for your buck

 
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no i don't nawwwwwwwwwwwwssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss

 
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dude you can run nitrous totally stock...its fun and worth the cash

 
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Yeah... if I still had my civic and it was out a warranty, I would go nitrous for some cheap speed.

But yeah, although I think you can get more than 5hp, probably not much more than 10 though. Some claim to have gotten 15 and have dynos to prove it, but I forgot who that was. But even 15 more hp is going to give you any real speed.

 
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right plus im not looking for speed anyhow its time to slow things down lol.

 
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If you seriously want to get some power out of your car. Then keep it stock for now and save for a swap. If you have to have some power now go n20 and you can always use it when you swap.

 
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First I would really like to know what NAWS is? I know what NOS means though.
Anyway, Nitrous is just as bad as a turbo, but your not using it all the time, even when your not in boost a turbo will still add heat to the motor, nitrous is either on or off. Both can cause detonation. Nitrous is just cheaper and easier to sell when when you get board with it. Ger a 50 shot and call it a day. Remamber, Full exhaust and a intake costs the same or more than a wet kit, but instead of gaining 5 or 10 hp, you get 55-65 or 75. You choose! And one more thing, Honda does not warranty motors that have damage from any type of power adder. Just my 2 cents.

 
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this is getting tiring but lets beat the dead horse some more. what are your goals? racing or some extra power? racing nitrous or turbo or swap. extra power for a DD just get the bolt ons. i don't see why a DD would want nitrous. if you have the money get a swap or just don't do anything and get a faster car.

 
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I can't afford a faster car right now, i just sold my WRX i want to keep things cool until my license is back in track than i want to buy a Evo MR.

 
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save your money.

 
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LOL thought so well all show no go time, this reminds me of my old focus.

 
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instead of starting ANOTHER thread on this i figured i would reply here. i got a 02 EX, 5spd. i dont want to race. need to keep the record clean. but i need more power, this is my daily driver. the car has a nice top end. its just getting there that is the problem. lol so will I/H/E help me in the lowend torque part. im not used to this my last care was all torque no topend...

 
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not really.... maybe just a tad, probably not what you are looking for. your best bet is to simply shift at higher rpms and use that top end or get a V8. Many poeple hate using the top end becasue for so long it was thought that by revving high you are killing your motor, but Honda's are extremely square motors and can take a beating up high and never care.

 
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only thing about higher revs is crappier gas mileage but who cares it's a civic and it'll still not gonna waste that much gas. that's what i do

 
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try looking at some bigger throttle bodies out there. maybe you can have a machine shop make you a custom mount or flange or whatever its called to fit a bigger throttle body off of another car. i know a few people have put a mustang throttle body on a miata w/ good results. also, you might have gotten an intake, but your intake manifold is still stock and restrictive. look into getting something more free flowing. not sure how much youll gain, or how much it will cost, but if you want to go n/a w/ more or less bolt-ons this might be a next step.

after that you can look into internals and stroking or boring your cylinders. blueprinting your motor, flow-testing and and all that.

i mean, it really all depends on what youre looking for and how much you want to spend to get it and if you want to stay w/ the d17 and get the satisfaction of getting all you can out of it or going for a swap.

 
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^^^Yeah... that might help a little. I know a Mustang 5.0 throttle body fit a D16, not sure about the D17 though. And a new manifold isn't a bad idea either; I'm not sure how good that goofy thing you have is. If you want more low end though, stay away from intakes too, most of them actually shift the power band up a little, same with most exhaust systems. Try putting in a better cat (random technology worked well for me and Dezod has them at a good price) and less restrictive muffler. Don't increase the size of the tubing though, don't get larger diameter exhaust manifolds, all these will shift power up too.

So better throttle and cat and you may see a couple more ft-lb. If I still had a civic, this is probably what I would do. Then go to a new intake manifold. I would like to see a civic with those mods with out an larger diameter exhaust and intake and see how it would far against these others with i/h/e.

 
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Would you guys add a rear muffler or a tip just so it looks ok w/ your body kit?

 
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nitrous is a joke... leave it for the foxbody and muscle car guys.,.. cause all they can do is drag anyways.

 
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a k20 swap would look so much better than a turbo charged D17, coz you already had the body work done... clean NA swap on a 7thGen is a sure winner!