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Old Dec 5, 2004
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2002 and 2003 gear ratios

I have a 2002 civic and my friend has a 2003 civic and both are manual transmissions. When we raced him and i were shifting at totaly different times. So is there a difference between the gear ratios ? He said the top end for his 3rd gear is 60 and mine is 90. So there has to be a difference.
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Theres a difference between Trim levels.
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i wonder what the extent of those differing ratios are... hmmm
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Both of our cars are EX. I don't know which one is faster.
2002 has hp headers hi flow cat skunk2 exhaust aem v2 revo short throw apexi not tunned
2003 has dc sports headers hi flow cat tc sports exhaust aem v2 apexi tunned
Ran equal untill 100 then he pulled alittle. So i don't know which one is faster.
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^ what size wheels and tires, as they can change the gearing on the car too.
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hmm he has 215/40 18 and i have 215/35 18 i wouldn't think that would make the big of a difference.
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hmm he has 215/40 18 and i have 215/35 18 i wouldn't think that would make the big of a difference.
yes it would, as there is a 3.49% difference in diamiter between those tires...

meaning, With you having the "shorter" tires, you will be 3.49% higher in your RPM range for any given MPH Vs him...

SO, If you are both driving the same MPH and hes at 5,000 RPM's that means you'll be at 5,175 RPMs.. makes sence? and the higher the RPM's the bigger the difference (thanks to it being a % rather then a fixed #)
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top of his 3rd is 60? ... I don't think so ... unless he's got like 7 or 8 gears
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^^^ I was thinkin the same.... is there are car in existance that tops 3rd at 60MPH? There are cars (suercars) that top 60 or close to 60 in 1st, but not likely the other way around.....

no offense but is your friend shifting at the right speeds? Even with the differences in mods and tire size, 30MPH is a big difference.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
yes it would, as there is a 3.49% difference in diamiter between those tires...

meaning, With you having the "shorter" tires, you will be 3.49% higher in your RPM range for any given MPH Vs him...

SO, If you are both driving the same MPH and hes at 5,000 RPM's that means you'll be at 5,175 RPMs.. makes sence? and the higher the RPM's the bigger the difference (thanks to it being a % rather then a fixed #)
I think with my stock rims it shows 80 as my top speed but rims show 90. I'll ride with him or drive his car or something to see whats going on.
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driver plays the biggest role in this race that i know of.

did you guys both launch at the same rpm?
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i was going 40 and so was he and we both launch about the same time. He just tunned his apexi that day though.
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top in 3rd is 60? thats horrible, my top in 2nd is 60
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2nd is 60. I have an 01. you gots that wrong. i doubt there is much if any difference in the gearing.
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Yeah same here i think he's thinking about the wrong gears
 
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