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I can't really blame them myself...If I would have known more about the K coming out at the time I bought my car, I would have waited to buy a Type S...I have dumped sooo much money in my engine (N/A) and I ended up with 135whp...That's not bad, but I should have done more research before I went with the D17...
hopefully they realiz that not eveyone can afford 5 or more grand just to do a swap... they have to consider that us lower income people can only afford to do turbos and build our stock engines and ecus and stuff.. honestly i can afford all these things piece by piece.. but not fork out over 4-5 grand for just the engine alone... plus u still gotta build the stock k20... by the time u add up everything including the i/h/e and other stuff... ur well over or at least close to 10g... but then we could spend just half of that and get a turbo and build our current engine.. yea i know our built hps will never match the hps of a built k20 dont get me wrong... but who know the extent of the d17's unless people build stuff for it
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Rep Power: 304 D17 will be good trust me, there are so many people that own the car with the d17a2
Its only a matter of time before these tuners stop being lazy and start giving the public what they want. Its there loss there loosing money every day they waste. Look how many of are ready to drop cash right away for a few garanteed horses. Man if I was in the tuning industry I'd be jumping on this opportunity.
Its only a matter of time before these tuners stop being lazy and start giving the public what they want. Its there loss there loosing money every day they waste. Look how many of are ready to drop cash right away for a few garanteed horses. Man if I was in the tuning industry I'd be jumping on this opportunity.
hum...weird, because my friend's who sells hondata at their shop, talked to hondata for me and hondata said no, the d17 ecu is too hard to work with....
i'm still thinking about a k20 ecu in my car....
i'm still thinking about a k20 ecu in my car....
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Originally Posted by nindoo
D17 will be good trust me, there are so many people that own the car with the d17a2
Its only a matter of time before these tuners stop being lazy and start giving the public what they want. Its there loss there loosing money every day they waste. Look how many of are ready to drop cash right away for a few garanteed horses. Man if I was in the tuning industry I'd be jumping on this opportunity.
Its only a matter of time before these tuners stop being lazy and start giving the public what they want. Its there loss there loosing money every day they waste. Look how many of are ready to drop cash right away for a few garanteed horses. Man if I was in the tuning industry I'd be jumping on this opportunity.
Hondata decided to not waste thier money and time to make ecu options for d series motors because they are not potential in thier mind.
Just like Jackson racing and Comptech, they will not make superchargers for d series motors.
Who is actually willing to spend $550-600 on ecu that will make small differences?
ex: Venom has chip for d17. Aem has computer program system for d series motors, which doesn't even work.
I realize there's plenty potential buyer for ecu chip but at the end, If result isn't impressive, nobody will be willing to spend $550-600 on upgraded chip for small gain.
It will be waste of Company's time and money trying to develope somthing that won't be potential sale.
You never know, They might decide to come up with reprogrammerble ecu option for d series.
Last edited by civicvtec1ps; Oct 20, 2004 at 02:30 AM.
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Originally Posted by civicvtec1ps
Yes, there's plenty people who has d series motors.
Hondata decided to not waste thier money and time to make ecu options for d series motors because they are not potential in thier mind.
Just like Jackson racing and Comptech, they will not make superchargers for d series motors.
Who is actually willing to spend $550-600 on ecu that will make small differences?
ex: Venom has chip for d17. Aem has computer program system for d series motors, which doesn't even work.
I realize there's plenty potential buyer for ecu chip but at the end, If result isn't impressive, nobody will be willing to spend $550-600 on upgraded chip for small gain.
It will be waste of Company's time and money trying to develope somthing that won't be potential sale.
You never know, They might decide to come up with reprogrammerble ecu option for d series.
Hondata decided to not waste thier money and time to make ecu options for d series motors because they are not potential in thier mind.
Just like Jackson racing and Comptech, they will not make superchargers for d series motors.
Who is actually willing to spend $550-600 on ecu that will make small differences?
ex: Venom has chip for d17. Aem has computer program system for d series motors, which doesn't even work.
I realize there's plenty potential buyer for ecu chip but at the end, If result isn't impressive, nobody will be willing to spend $550-600 on upgraded chip for small gain.
It will be waste of Company's time and money trying to develope somthing that won't be potential sale.
You never know, They might decide to come up with reprogrammerble ecu option for d series.
there must be ways to get some power to that engine. Why do all those manaufacturers offer items for the previous gen d16 of the EX. Like it or not D17s are here to stay there. I don't think Honda will will be bringing back the d16s. Its probably harder to modify because all the stuff that manages the engine for emissions, but Its up to the professionals to come with some way around it. Why do we pay them the big bucks? Hey I aint gonna pay $200 for CAI when all it is a metal pipe with some foam at the end of it. I mean at least put some effort in your product before selling it for $200. Anyhow there is a potential market there are more owners of Civics with D17A2 then there are ownder of RSX/Civic_hatch with k20a3, k20a2 or k20a. Its a great chance for some manufacturers to build some customer loyalty among a young crowd.
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Originally Posted by civicvtec1ps
Yes, there's plenty people who has d series motors.
Hondata decided to not waste thier money and time to make ecu options for d series motors because they are not potential in thier mind.
Just like Jackson racing and Comptech, they will not make superchargers for d series motors.
Who is actually willing to spend $550-600 on ecu that will make small differences?
ex: Venom has chip for d17. Aem has computer program system for d series motors, which doesn't even work.
I realize there's plenty potential buyer for ecu chip but at the end, If result isn't impressive, nobody will be willing to spend $550-600 on upgraded chip for small gain.
It will be waste of Company's time and money trying to develope somthing that won't be potential sale.
You never know, They might decide to come up with reprogrammerble ecu option for d series.
Hondata decided to not waste thier money and time to make ecu options for d series motors because they are not potential in thier mind.
Just like Jackson racing and Comptech, they will not make superchargers for d series motors.
Who is actually willing to spend $550-600 on ecu that will make small differences?
ex: Venom has chip for d17. Aem has computer program system for d series motors, which doesn't even work.
I realize there's plenty potential buyer for ecu chip but at the end, If result isn't impressive, nobody will be willing to spend $550-600 on upgraded chip for small gain.
It will be waste of Company's time and money trying to develope somthing that won't be potential sale.
You never know, They might decide to come up with reprogrammerble ecu option for d series.
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Originally Posted by civicvtec1ps
Yes, there's plenty people who has d series motors.
Hondata decided to not waste thier money and time to make ecu options for d series motors because they are not potential in thier mind.
Just like Jackson racing and Comptech, they will not make superchargers for d series motors.
Hondata decided to not waste thier money and time to make ecu options for d series motors because they are not potential in thier mind.
Just like Jackson racing and Comptech, they will not make superchargers for d series motors.
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Originally Posted by nindoo
there must be ways to get some power to that engine. Why do all those manaufacturers offer items for the previous gen d16 of the EX. Like it or not D17s are here to stay there. I don't think Honda will will be bringing back the d16s. Its probably harder to modify because all the stuff that manages the engine for emissions, but Its up to the professionals to come with some way around it. Why do we pay them the big bucks? Hey I aint gonna pay $200 for CAI when all it is a metal pipe with some foam at the end of it. I mean at least put some effort in your product before selling it for $200. Anyhow there is a potential market there are more owners of Civics with D17A2 then there are ownder of RSX/Civic_hatch with k20a3, k20a2 or k20a. Its a great chance for some manufacturers to build some customer loyalty among a young crowd.
Nobody will buy thier products.
D17 engines are new, d15, d16's has been around for while.
Look how much more products we have for 7thgen now days compare to 2 years ago.
You never know what Hondata will decided to do. I would probably guess if there's enough potential buyer for ecu upgraddes, They might attempt to get some business out of it.
Anybody throught about using k series ecu on d17a2?
Might be able to get it work.
Last edited by civicvtec1ps; Oct 20, 2004 at 05:26 PM.
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Rep Power: 304 Thats what the guys at Hondata are trying they said there trying to mess with a k ECU on a d17a2.
The problem lies in the price of he k20a2, or k20a. I mean it ends up costing more than actually going out and buying an RSX. IMO the engine is way way overpriced.
The problem lies in the price of he k20a2, or k20a. I mean it ends up costing more than actually going out and buying an RSX. IMO the engine is way way overpriced.
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