synthetic back to dino
holy crappp
definitely BAD for your car!!!
hmmm...if im not wrong...there's gonna be a leak on ur gasket blabla inside your engine...
cos' it's already adjust itself to syn, now if u go back to Dino.....bad things gonna happens..
BAD, DUDE!
definitely BAD for your car!!!
hmmm...if im not wrong...there's gonna be a leak on ur gasket blabla inside your engine...
cos' it's already adjust itself to syn, now if u go back to Dino.....bad things gonna happens..
BAD, DUDE!
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You guys have no clue. Do some research into synthetics before giving bad information.
http://www.mobil1.com
Go here, click on WHY SYNTHETICS, click on MYTHS ABOUT SYNTHETICS. Since you didn't go there to confirm your misguided opinions, I'll paste the relevant info here for you.
MYTH:You should break in your engine with conventional oil, then switch to Mobil 1.
You can start using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ in new vehicles at any time, even in brand-new vehicles. In fact, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is original equipment (it is installed at the factory) in:
Chevrolet Corvette
All Porsche vehicles
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Dodge Viper
Ford Mustang Cobra R
All Aston Martin cars
One of the myths that persists about Mobil 1 is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. Current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As indicated by the decisions of the engineers who design these high-performance cars, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ can be used in an engine from the day you drive the car off the showroom floor.
MYTH:Using Mobil 1 will void my new-car warranty.
With the exception of the Mazda rotary engine (Mazda does not recommend any synthetic motor oils), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will not void new-car warranties. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ exceeds the API and ILSAC motor oil service requirements of all new-car manufacturers, both import and domestic. If in doubt, always check your vehicle owner's manual or contact your vehicle's manufacturer.
MYTH:You don't have to change the oil as often when using Mobil 1.
While Mobil 1 has given excellent results in extended oil drain tests, ExxonMobil prefers to remain conservative with oil drain recommendations. ExxonMobil engineers recommend that you can go all the way to the maximum mileage or time frame shown in your owner's manual for oil changes when using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. This allows the reserve protection capabilities of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ to cover unusual or unexpected driving conditions.
Oil change intervals can be as short as 3,000 miles or as long as 15,000 miles on some new cars. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™'s high-performance reserves can give you the confidence to go the full mileage or time frame recommended by the vehicle manufacturer. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is especially suitable for the latest vehicles with extended drain intervals or vehicles with oil monitoring systems that vary oil drain intervals.
MYTH:I need to flush my engine before switching to Mobil 1.
No special preparation is necessary when switching from conventional motor oil to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™.
MYTH:Mobil 1 requires a special oil filter.
While ExxonMobil recommends that you use a high-quality filter, you can use the same type of oil filter that you would normally use with conventional oil. ExxonMobil does offer a very high-quality oil filter that is a perfect companion to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. The Mobil 1 High Efficiency Oil Filter contains synthetic fibers instead of the typical cellulose filter media. With a 95-percent efficiency rating (under SAE J806 tests for capacity and contamination removal), the Mobil 1 filter is much more efficient than a typical oil filter, removing more particles per pass through the filter. In addition, the synthetic fibers in the Mobil 1 filter have less resistance to oil flow, reducing the potential for the filter to restrict the flow of oil to your engine.
MYTH:Motorcycles can't benefit from synthetic oil.
ExxonMobil offers three Mobil 1 fully synthetic motor oils for motorcycles:
Mobil 1 MX4T is recommended for on-road, high-performance, 4-cycle sport bikes, which are typically liquid cooled. It can also be used in air-cooled engines calling for a 10W-40 oil.
Mobil 1 V-Twin is a 20W-50 oil recommended for 4-cycle V-twin engines, particularly those that are air cooled and tend to run hotter than other types of engines.
Mobil 1 MX2T is recommended for 2-cycle motorcycle engines that specify the use of a pre-mix, 2-cycle engine oil.
Although Mobil 1 15W-50 has been used in 4-cycle motorcycle engines, ExxonMobil engineers recommend using Mobil 1 Motorcycle Oils, since they have been specifically optimized for motorcycle applications. Be sure to follow your owner's manual for recommended oil and filter change frequencies.
MYTH:Mobil 1 can't be used in diesel engines.
Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will provide excellent service for passenger car and light-duty truck diesel engines (API CF or CD), as well as European diesel cars that require ACEA-quality oils. (This is the oil specification used in Europe and developed by European car companies.)
Heavy-duty truck engines that require API CE, CF-4, CG-4, CH-4 or CI-4 should use one of the products from the Delvac® line – Mobil Delvac 1® synthetic engine oil or Mobil Delvac 1300 Super®. Mobil Delvac 1 synthetic oil can help improve fuel economy, extend oil drain intervals, extend engine life, provide enhanced wear/cleanliness protection and reduce oil consumption. Delvac products can be purchased at a large number of truck stops across America, some retail stores, auto parts stores and from ExxonMobil distributors.
MYTH:Mobil 1 will leak out of the seals of older cars.
Mobil 1 does not cause leaks. In fact, new Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ was tested in dozens of industry standard and OEM tests to prove its seal performance. It is fully compatible with the elastomeric materials from which all automotive seals and gaskets are made.
ExxonMobil engineers are wary of conventional oils that tout their use of additional seal-swelling agents. With extended use, these agents can over-soften engine seals, resulting in leaks. More to the point, an oil additive will not rejuvenate worn or damaged seals. The damaged seal may have been caused by a worn rotating metal component in the engine.
If an older engine is in good condition and does not have oil leaks, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ provides the same advantages as when used in a new engine. ExxonMobil recommends taking measures to repair the leaks, then using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. ExxonMobil also always recommends following the automobile manufacturer's manual for the proper oil to use.
Never believe an opinion about your car from someone on a forum unless they can back it up with facts!
http://www.mobil1.com
Go here, click on WHY SYNTHETICS, click on MYTHS ABOUT SYNTHETICS. Since you didn't go there to confirm your misguided opinions, I'll paste the relevant info here for you.
MYTH:You should break in your engine with conventional oil, then switch to Mobil 1.
You can start using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ in new vehicles at any time, even in brand-new vehicles. In fact, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is original equipment (it is installed at the factory) in:
Chevrolet Corvette
All Porsche vehicles
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Dodge Viper
Ford Mustang Cobra R
All Aston Martin cars
One of the myths that persists about Mobil 1 is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. Current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As indicated by the decisions of the engineers who design these high-performance cars, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ can be used in an engine from the day you drive the car off the showroom floor.
MYTH:Using Mobil 1 will void my new-car warranty.
With the exception of the Mazda rotary engine (Mazda does not recommend any synthetic motor oils), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will not void new-car warranties. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ exceeds the API and ILSAC motor oil service requirements of all new-car manufacturers, both import and domestic. If in doubt, always check your vehicle owner's manual or contact your vehicle's manufacturer.
MYTH:You don't have to change the oil as often when using Mobil 1.
While Mobil 1 has given excellent results in extended oil drain tests, ExxonMobil prefers to remain conservative with oil drain recommendations. ExxonMobil engineers recommend that you can go all the way to the maximum mileage or time frame shown in your owner's manual for oil changes when using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. This allows the reserve protection capabilities of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ to cover unusual or unexpected driving conditions.
Oil change intervals can be as short as 3,000 miles or as long as 15,000 miles on some new cars. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™'s high-performance reserves can give you the confidence to go the full mileage or time frame recommended by the vehicle manufacturer. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is especially suitable for the latest vehicles with extended drain intervals or vehicles with oil monitoring systems that vary oil drain intervals.
MYTH:I need to flush my engine before switching to Mobil 1.
No special preparation is necessary when switching from conventional motor oil to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™.
MYTH:Mobil 1 requires a special oil filter.
While ExxonMobil recommends that you use a high-quality filter, you can use the same type of oil filter that you would normally use with conventional oil. ExxonMobil does offer a very high-quality oil filter that is a perfect companion to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. The Mobil 1 High Efficiency Oil Filter contains synthetic fibers instead of the typical cellulose filter media. With a 95-percent efficiency rating (under SAE J806 tests for capacity and contamination removal), the Mobil 1 filter is much more efficient than a typical oil filter, removing more particles per pass through the filter. In addition, the synthetic fibers in the Mobil 1 filter have less resistance to oil flow, reducing the potential for the filter to restrict the flow of oil to your engine.
MYTH:Motorcycles can't benefit from synthetic oil.
ExxonMobil offers three Mobil 1 fully synthetic motor oils for motorcycles:
Mobil 1 MX4T is recommended for on-road, high-performance, 4-cycle sport bikes, which are typically liquid cooled. It can also be used in air-cooled engines calling for a 10W-40 oil.
Mobil 1 V-Twin is a 20W-50 oil recommended for 4-cycle V-twin engines, particularly those that are air cooled and tend to run hotter than other types of engines.
Mobil 1 MX2T is recommended for 2-cycle motorcycle engines that specify the use of a pre-mix, 2-cycle engine oil.
Although Mobil 1 15W-50 has been used in 4-cycle motorcycle engines, ExxonMobil engineers recommend using Mobil 1 Motorcycle Oils, since they have been specifically optimized for motorcycle applications. Be sure to follow your owner's manual for recommended oil and filter change frequencies.
MYTH:Mobil 1 can't be used in diesel engines.
Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will provide excellent service for passenger car and light-duty truck diesel engines (API CF or CD), as well as European diesel cars that require ACEA-quality oils. (This is the oil specification used in Europe and developed by European car companies.)
Heavy-duty truck engines that require API CE, CF-4, CG-4, CH-4 or CI-4 should use one of the products from the Delvac® line – Mobil Delvac 1® synthetic engine oil or Mobil Delvac 1300 Super®. Mobil Delvac 1 synthetic oil can help improve fuel economy, extend oil drain intervals, extend engine life, provide enhanced wear/cleanliness protection and reduce oil consumption. Delvac products can be purchased at a large number of truck stops across America, some retail stores, auto parts stores and from ExxonMobil distributors.
MYTH:Mobil 1 will leak out of the seals of older cars.
Mobil 1 does not cause leaks. In fact, new Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ was tested in dozens of industry standard and OEM tests to prove its seal performance. It is fully compatible with the elastomeric materials from which all automotive seals and gaskets are made.
ExxonMobil engineers are wary of conventional oils that tout their use of additional seal-swelling agents. With extended use, these agents can over-soften engine seals, resulting in leaks. More to the point, an oil additive will not rejuvenate worn or damaged seals. The damaged seal may have been caused by a worn rotating metal component in the engine.
If an older engine is in good condition and does not have oil leaks, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ provides the same advantages as when used in a new engine. ExxonMobil recommends taking measures to repair the leaks, then using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. ExxonMobil also always recommends following the automobile manufacturer's manual for the proper oil to use.
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Rep Power: 0 I understand the stuff about synthetic. what im talking about is going back to regular oil. will that cause any problems. all the stuff in those faq's is about going to sythetic from regular oil. not synthetic back to regular.
Thanks
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MYTH:I need to flush my engine before switching to Mobil 1.
No special preparation is necessary when switching from conventional motor oil to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™.
...same goes for going back to regular oil....don't worry
No special preparation is necessary when switching from conventional motor oil to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™.
...same goes for going back to regular oil....don't worry
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Rep Power: 0 well of course Mobil 1 is going to say all these good things about no harm with synthetics and swtiching and all that because they are actually making themselves look good and advertising their brand in their argument as well. Synthetic is a lot more expensive to buy. I'm not saying their wrong or right but you cant believe everything a company says when they are actually talking about their product and trying to get you to buy it.
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Rep Power: 0 Oh my god he was saying going from reg to synthetic hero. Its fine to put synthetic in but if you are currently using synthetic and try and go back without flushing the engine it will be ****ed up.
Bellz get your facts straight before starting to call ppl out.
Bellz get your facts straight before starting to call ppl out.
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Rep Power: 315 You're the one with the fact problem, 1320Racing. Going from dino to full syn or half syn or back to dino will NOT mess up your motor. I've done it myself and I've had no problems after many thousands of miles. I've used the valvoline synthetic, went back to valvoline regular and now i'm trying the mobil1 synthetic. It runs as well as it did when it was new.
My final word on the subject is this:
If you're using synthetic, it's better to stay with it due to the advantages it has over dino oil.
But, it's better to switch back to dino oil than to not change the oil at all or go longer between changes.
Synthetic actually does allow you to go longer between changes because it simply works better at lubricating the motor and therefore the oil doesn't get "dirty" as quick.
The only advantage dino oil has is that it's cheaper. But you'll change the oil more often, so you're not saving much by using it.
If you're terrified that going back to dino oil will mess up the motor, just DON'T DO IT. You're better off with synthetic anyway.
My final word on the subject is this:
If you're using synthetic, it's better to stay with it due to the advantages it has over dino oil.
But, it's better to switch back to dino oil than to not change the oil at all or go longer between changes.
Synthetic actually does allow you to go longer between changes because it simply works better at lubricating the motor and therefore the oil doesn't get "dirty" as quick.
The only advantage dino oil has is that it's cheaper. But you'll change the oil more often, so you're not saving much by using it.
If you're terrified that going back to dino oil will mess up the motor, just DON'T DO IT. You're better off with synthetic anyway.
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Rep Power: 0 I never said you couldnt do it I just said if you do it you have to run a full bottle of your non synthetic brand first. Just doing the switch with out flushing can mess up your motor...
Thats all I'm saying better safe than sorry... You do whatever you want to your motor I'm just trying to help somebody out.
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Thats all I'm saying better safe than sorry... You do whatever you want to your motor I'm just trying to help somebody out.
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I have gone from regular oil to synthetic and back to regular oil and it doesnt do a damn thing to your engine. I am currently running mobil 1 10w-30 because I feel it is better for the engine, but switching back once in a while wont hurt. It might if you do it every oil change
OK..
i dunno whether this is true or false..
but what i said was based on my previous thread...
QUOTED from member "01EXplain":
hope it helps...
maybe those of you who against this, should PM him...
i dunno whether this is true or false..
but what i said was based on my previous thread...
QUOTED from member "01EXplain":
Yes, Mobil 1 is pure synthetic. You would be fine running either 5w20 Castrol GTX or Syntec year-round. But if you switch to a FULL synthetic, your car will be wanting you to continue using full synthetic because it causes the valve seals to swell up and if you go back to regular they shrink back down. If you have any leaky valve seals, going back to regular would cause you to leak oil into the combustion chamber and burn it, which isn't good for your car. So if you go with Mobil 1 or ANY full synthetic, It would be a good idea to continue to use for as long as you have the car, especially if you switch to Synth. on a high mileage car, to stay with synthetic. Hope this helps.
maybe those of you who against this, should PM him...
your okay swtiching back and forth doesn't do a DAMN thing. i just did it 2 months ago and still running great.
bottom line like everyone else said "oil is oil"
lol its like you guys are saying eating food cooked with peanut oil and switching to vegatable oil and then switching back to peanut would cause **** leakage.... well .... bad example hehe
bottom line like everyone else said "oil is oil"
lol its like you guys are saying eating food cooked with peanut oil and switching to vegatable oil and then switching back to peanut would cause **** leakage.... well .... bad example hehe
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Rep Power: 0 i have a question.. i drive around my dad's acura legend from time to time and when I went to Kragen to buy car oil, the clerk asked me how many miles were on there, I sed 147000, and he sed to get 15w-50.. so is that good to use for my situation?
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Originally posted by 1320Racing
BIG NO NO
If you go synthetic and try and go back you will have to flush your engine.
Stick with the mobile 1 thats what ive got and I love it
5W30
BIG NO NO
If you go synthetic and try and go back you will have to flush your engine.
Stick with the mobile 1 thats what ive got and I love it
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Oil Questions? Go here, it's the ultimate oil website:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
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Rep Power: 295 I'm not here to argue the point we all know the truth now, but I think putting regular oil in your car for a couple of bucks less, is like bottle feeding your kids, it shows a lack of love towards your car.
If you cant afford to pay Jiffy Lube to do it then do it yourself.
If you cant afford to pay Jiffy Lube to do it then do it yourself.
Originally posted by zen_master
yeah, just change it back do dino..
and keep it on your mind to save some amount of $$$ if your valve seal's not working properly anymore....and oil leaks from ur engine...ugh, BAD....
yeah, just change it back do dino..
and keep it on your mind to save some amount of $$$ if your valve seal's not working properly anymore....and oil leaks from ur engine...ugh, BAD....
i mean, i can see why people only put mobile 1 synthetic in their evos... but common... a civic? switching once wouldn't matter.
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I'm not sure even where I should start... there is so much stupidity in thread it's rediculous.
First off, when switching from a non-detergent oil to a detergent oil, there can be problems if you were running the non detergent oil for a very long time. The reason for this is that material would build up around your valves and seals, then when you throw in the detergent oil, it would dissolve those buildups allowing the oil to leak. NOW, it's not an issue since all oils are detergent based whether they're synthetic or not. The main difference between synthetic oil and regualr oil is that synthetic oil is made in a lab, while regular oil is pumped from the ground and refined and then had chemicals added to it to help clean the engine.
NOW, changing from regular to synthectic isn't an issue anymore with new cars, just drain out the regular oil and put the synthetic in.
Same thing going the other way. Drain they synthetic oil and put in regualr.
I would really like to how/why some of you think that going from synthetic oil to regular can be bad for your engine. Oil is oil, it's just that synthetic oil can be manufactured with different properties, than natural oil, because natural oil is refined, while synthetic is made. It's not like mixing the two is gonna cause a nuclear melt down in your engine.
Ever hear of a synthetic blend... that's what happens when they MIX the two oils...
I'm not sure even where I should start... there is so much stupidity in thread it's rediculous.
First off, when switching from a non-detergent oil to a detergent oil, there can be problems if you were running the non detergent oil for a very long time. The reason for this is that material would build up around your valves and seals, then when you throw in the detergent oil, it would dissolve those buildups allowing the oil to leak. NOW, it's not an issue since all oils are detergent based whether they're synthetic or not. The main difference between synthetic oil and regualr oil is that synthetic oil is made in a lab, while regular oil is pumped from the ground and refined and then had chemicals added to it to help clean the engine.
NOW, changing from regular to synthectic isn't an issue anymore with new cars, just drain out the regular oil and put the synthetic in.
Same thing going the other way. Drain they synthetic oil and put in regualr.
I would really like to how/why some of you think that going from synthetic oil to regular can be bad for your engine. Oil is oil, it's just that synthetic oil can be manufactured with different properties, than natural oil, because natural oil is refined, while synthetic is made. It's not like mixing the two is gonna cause a nuclear melt down in your engine.
Ever hear of a synthetic blend... that's what happens when they MIX the two oils...
seriously guys, im not arguing this matter with you..
actually...im also looking for the correct answer...
i heard about the issue about that valve seal being swollen when you use synth oil....and it will cause oil leaks when u switch back to dino oil .....that's what i heard....im not 100% sure...correct me if im wrong..
it's up to you whether you want to switch back to dino's oil......that's your car.....
but in my case, i don't want to take that chance...i feel my car run smoother with my M1 0W20 anyway....
anywho...
this is just a story about my friend's Infiniti J30..
he got a problem right now with oil leaking from his engine compartment....
why? he's still looking for the answer....
but one thing i realize is that the previous owner (his uncle) used synthethic oil......however, he didn't realize about that and switched back to dino's oil (quacker state).....
that's one possible cause, isn't it? is it TRUE? I dont know....
actually...im also looking for the correct answer...
i heard about the issue about that valve seal being swollen when you use synth oil....and it will cause oil leaks when u switch back to dino oil .....that's what i heard....im not 100% sure...correct me if im wrong..
it's up to you whether you want to switch back to dino's oil......that's your car.....
but in my case, i don't want to take that chance...i feel my car run smoother with my M1 0W20 anyway....
anywho...
this is just a story about my friend's Infiniti J30..
he got a problem right now with oil leaking from his engine compartment....
why? he's still looking for the answer....
but one thing i realize is that the previous owner (his uncle) used synthethic oil......however, he didn't realize about that and switched back to dino's oil (quacker state).....
that's one possible cause, isn't it? is it TRUE? I dont know....
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