Ceramic headers Vs Stainless
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yeah, ceramic headers hold in heat more, so your engine bay wont be as hot when you have them on, but ceramic headers tend to crack over time. stainless steel headers dont hold in heat too well and tends to be hotter under the hood, but last you longer.
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Originally posted by Da1lyDr1ver
yeah, ceramic headers hold in heat more, so your engine bay wont be as hot when you have them on, but ceramic headers tend to crack over time. stainless steel headers dont hold in heat too well and tends to be hotter under the hood, but last you longer.
yeah, ceramic headers hold in heat more, so your engine bay wont be as hot when you have them on, but ceramic headers tend to crack over time. stainless steel headers dont hold in heat too well and tends to be hotter under the hood, but last you longer.
Ceramic does hold more heat, but the milder steel used to make the header is also more ductile and less succeptable to weld cracks.
Stainless looks pretty, but is not nearly as durable. The welds also crack a lot easier.
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That's not right.
Ceramic does hold more heat, but the milder steel used to make the header is also more ductile and less succeptable to weld cracks.
Stainless looks pretty, but is not nearly as durable. The welds also crack a lot easier.
That's not right.
Ceramic does hold more heat, but the milder steel used to make the header is also more ductile and less succeptable to weld cracks.
Stainless looks pretty, but is not nearly as durable. The welds also crack a lot easier.
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Rep Power: 370 Actually Ceramic is cheaper then stainless isn't it?
Anyways, another downside to ceramic is it breaks down over time and even faster if you live in harsh climates. Road salt eats away at ceramic.
I say go with stainless steel. If you're not worried about looks, then just get some header wrap to keep the temp low in the engine bay.
Anyways, another downside to ceramic is it breaks down over time and even faster if you live in harsh climates. Road salt eats away at ceramic.
I say go with stainless steel. If you're not worried about looks, then just get some header wrap to keep the temp low in the engine bay.
I was always told that stainless is less likely to crack and last longer
stainless is more expensive
(steel)
ceramic is less expensive
(vs mild steel)
I belive ceramic coated headers will keep heat in better vs stainless beacuse of the coating.
stainless is more expensive
(steel)
ceramic is less expensive
(vs mild steel)
I belive ceramic coated headers will keep heat in better vs stainless beacuse of the coating.
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Rep Power: 424 And cast Iron is cheaper than both of them... but guess what? If you want a turbo manifold that will last a long time with no problems... you get a cast iron one! Stock headers/manifolds are made of cast iron... honestly, I've never seen a stock manifold break. Iron is some of the cheapest most durable stuff you can buy. So price isn't everything.
Stainless has less carbon in it than a mild steel, more molybendium. That makes it stay shiny, but also makes it more brittle.
You have to pull up property tables of these things at elevated temperatures... I would find them, but I just don't have time to do it right now. I got too much school work at the moment.
Stainless has less carbon in it than a mild steel, more molybendium. That makes it stay shiny, but also makes it more brittle.
You have to pull up property tables of these things at elevated temperatures... I would find them, but I just don't have time to do it right now. I got too much school work at the moment.
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I have a civic 2K3, ex. I bought the ceramic headers, to be honest, im impressed with them, i noticed a big difference right away, Im ordering the dual canister exhaust system in a few weeks from dc sports to go with it. THe install is tit, 5 bolts on the manifold, and 2 spring bolts connecting it to the exhaust. Just be careful so u can reuse the gasket. :_beer:
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Rep Power: 318 i had a ceramic dc header when it first came out for our 7th gens...damn thing cracked after about 1 1/2 years....it had a hairline fracture where the primaries meet the collector...****in sucked...so i stayed away from dc forever and now have a Top Speed SS Header/Straightpipe, and i'd stick with the SS....strictly my opinion!
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Originally posted by Joey_Zazza
I have a civic 2K3, ex. I bought the ceramic headers, to be honest, im impressed with them, i noticed a big difference right away, Im ordering the dual canister exhaust system in a few weeks from dc sports to go with it. THe install is tit, 5 bolts on the manifold, and 2 spring bolts connecting it to the exhaust. Just be careful so u can reuse the gasket.
I have a civic 2K3, ex. I bought the ceramic headers, to be honest, im impressed with them, i noticed a big difference right away, Im ordering the dual canister exhaust system in a few weeks from dc sports to go with it. THe install is tit, 5 bolts on the manifold, and 2 spring bolts connecting it to the exhaust. Just be careful so u can reuse the gasket.
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Rep Power: 0 It depends on why you're buying them. If you want something that looks good, stainless may fit the bill. If you want performance, ceramic is the way to go. Ceramic coated headers help with exhaust velocities (keeps exhaust stream hotter) and keeps the engine compartment cooler.
You can Jet Hot coat a well built mild steel header header if you don't like the ceramic offerings currently available. Don't know if it works on stainless or not.
You can Jet Hot coat a well built mild steel header header if you don't like the ceramic offerings currently available. Don't know if it works on stainless or not.
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i had a ceramic dc header when it first came out for our 7th gens...damn thing cracked after about 1 1/2 years....it had a hairline fracture where the primaries meet the collector...****in sucked...so i stayed away from dc forever and now have a Top Speed SS Header/Straightpipe, and i'd stick with the SS....strictly my opinion!
i had a ceramic dc header when it first came out for our 7th gens...damn thing cracked after about 1 1/2 years....it had a hairline fracture where the primaries meet the collector...****in sucked...so i stayed away from dc forever and now have a Top Speed SS Header/Straightpipe, and i'd stick with the SS....strictly my opinion!
Didnt they have a warranty???
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how would you know if your headers are cracked?
how would you know if your headers are cracked?
and you can definitely smell it..
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And cast Iron is cheaper than both of them... but guess what? If you want a turbo manifold that will last a long time with no problems... you get a cast iron one! Stock headers/manifolds are made of cast iron... honestly, I've never seen a stock manifold break. Iron is some of the cheapest most durable stuff you can buy. So price isn't everything.
Stainless has less carbon in it than a mild steel, more molybendium. That makes it stay shiny, but also makes it more brittle.
You have to pull up property tables of these things at elevated temperatures... I would find them, but I just don't have time to do it right now. I got too much school work at the moment.
And cast Iron is cheaper than both of them... but guess what? If you want a turbo manifold that will last a long time with no problems... you get a cast iron one! Stock headers/manifolds are made of cast iron... honestly, I've never seen a stock manifold break. Iron is some of the cheapest most durable stuff you can buy. So price isn't everything.
Stainless has less carbon in it than a mild steel, more molybendium. That makes it stay shiny, but also makes it more brittle.
You have to pull up property tables of these things at elevated temperatures... I would find them, but I just don't have time to do it right now. I got too much school work at the moment.
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