LT2004ever

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Hey guys imma try this out..
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/524517...as_mileage_2x/

oh well, wouldn't hurt... right...?





right?









?????

LT2004ever

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https://www.civicforums.com/forums/3...e-acetone.html

then

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...Thermodynamics

arg...

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo..._Fuel_Additive

Honda

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* Honda Accord Wagon 1996 - Bill reports 22% increase in mileage with 3.5 oz acetone per 10 gallons; smoother performance

* Honda Accord Sedan 1992 - Currently testing on 160,000 miles, fresh oil change, 2 oz in 12 gallons, 320 miles on a normal tank

* Honda Civic Hatchback 1991 - Don from SLC reports substantial mileage and performance improvements in his Civic, using 1 oz acetone / 10 gallons gasoline. (July 12, 2005)

* Honda Del Sol 1993 SI - An overly-exhaustive treatise on the experiences of a UCLA graduate film student using acetone for over 30,000 miles as he commutes between San Diego and Los Angeles. Short version: Definite increase in efficiency from 27-29 mpg without acetone to 33-35 mpg with acetone. Also more power and nice, smooth running engine.

* Honda del Sol 1994Si - Steven reports a 20% increase in mileage with 2 oz acetone per 10 gallons; slight increase in performance to. I travel 150 miles a day to and from work. I definately have enjoyed this decrease in gas spending. (Sept. 9 2005)

* Honda Element 2003 - please3mta3 reports modest increase in mileage. (Aug. 20, 2005)

* Honda Odyssey 2000 - Pascal reports improved mileage and performance. (Aug. 31, 2005)

* Honda Pilot 2004 - AWD 3.5 v-6. Preliminary report from just miles since adding acetone; reports mileage going from 20 to 25 mpg with mixture of 3 oz per 10 gallons of fuel; significant increase in horsepower.

* Honda Prelude Si 1993 - 2.4L NO CHANGE! Measured 31.5mpg (w/ 1.5oz/10gal) compared to similar tanks of 29.5mpg(6/27/05) and 30.5mpg(8/6/05).

* Honda Prelude SR 2.3L Auto 1992 (Ottawa, Canada) - This car has 177,143 km (110,714 miles) on it. Tested from Apt 1, 2006 - Aug 15, 2006 for 2708 km (1,692.5 miles). 9.619 L/100 km (24.459 mpg) with 60 mL per 52 L of fuel. No significant increase in housepower. Original is 13 L/100 km (17.759 mpg). Pure city drive in Ottawa, with average speed < 65 km/h (40 mph). By keeping 60 mL of acetone, fuel consumption is keep on dropping for every refill. I suspect it is cleaning up the carbon deposit, or something, and making more efficient fuel consumption. By theory, 60 mL of acetone should show constant mpg, if driving habit does not change. However, I still don't archive it yet, so I will expect 60 mL will continue improve the mpg in next few months. I should perform another test without acetone, if it has clean up my engine. (John CHEN Sing-Cheong Aug 15, 2006).

* Directory:Acetone: 2.0L auto Honda Accord LXi 1989 - Steve reports After using 2oz per 10 gallons for the last few months an average increase of 4-6 mpg in mostly stop and go traffic.(8/22/06)

2007 Honda Pilot AWD 3.5 Engine @ 10,000 km in Ontario, Canada - Vehicle was running at 20 L / 100 km. Since then started with 2 oz for the 72 liter tank. Milage was improved and definitely more pep. Decreased the amount of acetone to 1/2 oz for every half tank and the fuel efficiency, mainly city driving improved at 17L/100km. Tested primary highway driving with the aceton and discovered 14L/100km. Really great mprovement.


imma try it and report back in a month or so

darklegacy540

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Hmmm, I'm a little skeptical.
haha I'm going to respond by the "I'll let you try it first and if it does work, then I'll do it too."

01HonderCivic

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Somehow I doubt....But you never know.

EggRollBandit05

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I've been experimenting with acetone in my gas for a couple fills and keeping a log (miles driven/gallons filled). There is a slight improvement but that video is exaggerating the results. I've only got maybe 1-2 mpg more with each tank but there were too many things that changed in between like the amount of acetone added and driving style so after a few more tanks Ill get more accurate results. I drive an auto might get better results with a manual I dont know.

Also note that acetone isn't good for rubber and plastics but the small amount that is used probably wont do much harm.

Bottom line
+10 mpg like video says... NO
more likely 1-2 mpg

TemjinX2

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best way to increase your gas mileage is to make your car lighter. Just take out any stuff you dont really need in your car for daily use. That will definately increase your mileage depending if you drive the same way.

LT2004ever

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yea imma first get rid of dead weight, and track my results, then imma do the acetone thing and track my results, with both types of driving... granny driving, and aggressive driving.

hmmm.... i wonder what octane he used as well... oh well.. regular unleaded for me!

LT2004ever

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ok, my first log... i averaged 29.83 Mpg for the last 6 fill ups... This has consisted of granny driving, spirited driving, and normal driving on bothe highway and city, with minimal A/C. So yeah

Log 1 = 29.83 (no acetone-2oz in 10gal-, no weight reduction, no chainge in oil, no filter replace, no spark plug change, no shut off after 30+ sec idle, no fp60)

dubD02CiViC

This is interesting. I heard this thing from a guy that works at a Cadillac dealership and he mentioned something about GM making something that helps vaporize the gas to greatly improve gas milege but I looked around online and didn't find much else about it. But I'm gonna keep checking this to see if it works, because gas is 3.25 here in CT!! Ahhh

kornsined

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acetone is very corrosive on rubber. it's prone to killing seals.

I've wanted to try it too but with my turbo??....maybe not

TemjinX2

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i think you should mention what your mpg was before the acetone. So we can measure how much of a improvement it was. Since we all get different mileage.

I use to get 32-35mpg on 87 from 76 gas in my auto ex with combination city ahd high way.

LT2004ever

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^^^ ummm... read what u just quoted me on...

Alpha 5

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So do we have a defenative answere yet?

LT2004ever

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i just started the experiment so no definate yet.

ryox82

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I actually did do the acetone thing with my 1990 Town Car...i did notice and improvement slightly. They do say that it is supposed to show more of a difference in these little four bangers though. It is my understanding (from memory) that the acetone mixture was easier to ignite, which in turn made the engine use the fuel more efficiently. If this were the case I guess you would see a lower carbon read out on an inspection as well.

Regardless, I am interested on how this will all pan out, good luck on the experiments guys. Oh yeah...side note....it caused no damage to the car. Some people claim that it will, but it doesn't

Alpha 5

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Here is the technical data that goes with this post.

Check this out!!! It is also in the 2nd post.
Sorry for the repost.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo..._Fuel_Additive

Alpha 5

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Add in tiny amounts from about one part per 5000 to one part per 3000, depending on the vehicle -- just a few ounces per ten gallons of gas. This comes to between 0.0003 % to 0.0025 % acetone maximum or approximately 1/15th of one-percent. Note that is around .78 cc per liter or one ounce per 10 gallons. Not more than 3 oz. per 10 gallons.


Here is a perfect quote "Complete vaporization of fuel is far from perfect in today's cars and trucks. A certain amount of residual fuel in most engines remains liquid in the hot chamber. In order to be fully combusted, the fuel must be fully vaporized.
Surface tension presents an obstacle to vaporization. For instance the energy barrier from surface tension can sometimes force water to reach 300 degrees Fahrenheit before it vaporizes. Similarly with gasoline.
Acetone drastically reduces the surface tension. Most fuel molecules are sluggish with respect to their natural frequency. Acetone has an inherent molecular vibration that "stirs up" the fuel molecules, to break the surface tension. This results in a more complete vaporization with other factors remaining the same. More complete vaporization means less wasted fuel, hence the increased gas mileage from the increased thermal efficiency.
That excess fuel was formerly wasted past the rings or sent out the tailpipe but when mixed with acetone it gets burned, though the engine still thinks it is running straight gas.
Acetone allows gasoline to behave more like the ideal automotive fuel which is PROPANE. The degree of improved mileage depends on how much unburned fuel you are presently wasting. You might gain 15 to 35-percent better economy from the use of acetone. Sometimes even more."

LT2004ever

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repost ..... look at my second post in this thread

and i posted that i was gonna use "acetone-2oz in 10gal"

gearbox

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ugh i cant believe this STUPID acetone thing came up again! this is getting locked and i hope nobody is dumb enough to actually put acetone in your gas tank. please think next time and do more research if you need to know why its so bad. i hope somebody locks this before it gets out of hand again

here some reading for you

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=283261

LT2004ever

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blah blah blah.... gah. Not to sound rude but i have read all these articles, and when i posted this some months ago, i read like every article on the internet... and pretty much nothing says that not to do it other than random people on forums... Like pretty much all the articles dont go either for or against the addition of acetone to your car. So i decided that seeing as how no one i know has proven a thing to me that imma try it out.... then with the wikipedia log, and other logs that people have done on the internet with years and models dating fron the 50's to recent, and fron Acura to Volvo, most have reported a 1-8% increase on average... then the rest say no change. But look gearbox i respect your car knowlege and your input, but dont get a mod to lock this, i wanna actually try it out on my own tho.

Its not like Acetone is the only thing imma do to my car im also gonna try the FP60 frome lubecontrol.com and all the things i said in my earlier post. but yea, only for the stuff that gets physically proven by my results are gonna be used as a long term application.

gearbox

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fp60 is NOT recommended to be used with acetone. it is an actual lab-tested product with real results that is designed to work with gas by itself. are there any tests done with acetone? nope. just some guy who poured it in and thinks he noticed a difference. what happens a few years after using it, maybe nothing, maybe your engine blows up. nobody knows. what we do know is our engine and fuel system are not designed to run with it. just like it wasnt designed to run off ethanol. this is just one of the few things that bothers me. but hey its your car, you can put whatever you want in it. i wouldnt put acetone anywhere near my car even if someone paid me.

_unclejuice

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we put rubbing alcohol in cars at work when they wont pass emissions. it lowers the hydrocarbon output quite a bit.

TemjinX2

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ah my mistake. I read it wrong. keep us posted on the results. but even at 10% improvement, is it worth getting extra 3mpg?

gearbox

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you should be looking at real issues of why your car is getting poor mileage, not trying out dumb ideas that may or may not mess your car up. the only additive i would ever put in my car is lubecontrol, everything else is useless. why dont you try tuning up your car and see if that helps. you can get 3mpg increase by restraining yourself from flooring the car on the way to work instead. better yet just go find a chemical engineer they will tell you how stupid of an idea it is to use acetone anywhere near a car.

sKwiD

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Tenzo 17" Rims = 29-30mpg
Tenzo 17" Rims w/ Denso Iridium IK20 = 27mpg but easier to drive, better acceleration
Swapped 17"s with Si Rims = 33mpg
Took off HKS Hi-Power Muffler = 32mpg (weird huh?)

I've used Seafoam before and it works pretty well. Try using it if you have time.

_unclejuice

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grab an extra valve stem seal or something close and soak it in acetone for a while and see what happens.

VicDawg

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Speaking of doubling you gas mileage... Anyone heard about this?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...i-business-hed

gearbox

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lol nice. what ever happened to the piece of wood on ebay that you put behind the gas pedal

speedfoos

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At what mixture? I may have to do this when it comes inspection time. I'll happily do this once a year if it means not jacking with pulling parts....

_unclejuice

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depends on how high the hydrocarbon count is. we have the advantage of having a gas analyzer at the shop. our machine is about 20 points higher than the one at the testing center. if you pass ours, you pass theirs. we have a performance shop and full machine shop and most of the cars that have trouble passing are muscle cars weve tweaked on. we just cut the fuel back, play with timing, and add rubbing alcohol. weve gotten cars that had a hydrocarbon output of over 2300 down to 220 which is what you need to have to pass emissions here.