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07-12-2004
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
.. Stock allows you to change the front bar only. Lucky you. 
and LSDs arnt legal for STS (Only Stock Viscous Coupling ones are), Youd Have to run STX or STU
13.7 Anti Roll (Sway) Bars
Front anti-roll (sway) bars:
Substitution, addition or removal of any front anti-roll bars is permitted.
Substitution, addition or removal of anti-roll bars may serve no other purpose than that of an anti-roll bar.
The use of any bushing material is permitted.
No modification to the body, frame or other components to accommodate anti-roll bar addition or substitution is allowed, except for the drilling of holes for mounting bolts. Non-standard lateral members which connect between the brackets for the bar are not permitted.
Rear anti-roll (sway) bars:
May not be removed, replaced, or modified in any way.
and LSDs arnt legal for STS (Only Stock Viscous Coupling ones are), Youd Have to run STX or STU
13.7 Anti Roll (Sway) Bars
Front anti-roll (sway) bars:
Substitution, addition or removal of any front anti-roll bars is permitted.
Substitution, addition or removal of anti-roll bars may serve no other purpose than that of an anti-roll bar.
The use of any bushing material is permitted.
No modification to the body, frame or other components to accommodate anti-roll bar addition or substitution is allowed, except for the drilling of holes for mounting bolts. Non-standard lateral members which connect between the brackets for the bar are not permitted.
Rear anti-roll (sway) bars:
May not be removed, replaced, or modified in any way.
Only thing is...the Civic Type-R (My car but not in the states) HAS a LSD....OEM...STANDARD! So...in theory...it could be considered OEM...for my "chassis" right?
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^^ not really, The car isnt currently sold in the US, so the parts on it can't be considered OEM.
If you did put an LSD in there, you'd go instantly to either SM, STX, or Street prepaired....
If you did put an LSD in there, you'd go instantly to either SM, STX, or Street prepaired....
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
^^ not really, The car isnt currently sold in the US, so the parts on it can't be considered OEM.
If you did put an LSD in there, you'd go instantly to either SM, STX, or Street prepaired....
If you did put an LSD in there, you'd go instantly to either SM, STX, or Street prepaired....
Damn...oh well....I suppose it's a good thing I can't afford one!
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Rep Power: 0 while we are on this subject, say i have a RSX rear sway, 19mm, on my EP3. it comes with a 17mm. when i/they designate my car to a class, would they be able to tell if its not "OEM", i mean, they cant know EVERY thing about EVERy car that goes in there. i mean, since its plain black, like oem (as opposed to painted red or something, with a brand decal on it), itll look stock, and it really didnt help me that much after i put it on. so it wont be blatantly obvious that i have it on there. also, say they find you violated class rules, what are the consequences? make your times void? keep your times but list them with the class you now fall into? what?
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Rep Power: 356 THey dont designate any thing. Its up to you and your compeditors to determin if your car is legal for a particular class. Its your choice what class you run, You'd be cheating, but you could run any class you want.
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Originally Posted by EternalVTEC
while we are on this subject, say i have a RSX rear sway, 19mm, on my EP3. it comes with a 17mm. when i/they designate my car to a class, would they be able to tell if its not "OEM", i mean, they cant know EVERY thing about EVERy car that goes in there. i mean, since its plain black, like oem (as opposed to painted red or something, with a brand decal on it), itll look stock, and it really didnt help me that much after i put it on. so it wont be blatantly obvious that i have it on there. also, say they find you violated class rules, what are the consequences? make your times void? keep your times but list them with the class you now fall into? what?
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Well.....yes and no.
You're right...they probably WON'T know if it's an aftermarket sway bar.
HOWEVER...Solo2 runs on "the honor system" kinda. We all work our shifts on course with out bitching, because we race and hope others do the same for us while we're driving. If people start lying about what parts they have/don't have, effectively CHEATING, then it kinda diminishes the pride of the sport. We're all week-end-warriors...not out for fame or glory....we just like to race and have it as fair as it can possibly be.
As far as consequences......to the best of my knowledge...nobody's ever been "busted" here in CO for "cheating"....so I have no idea what they would be.
But in my own opinion bro...don't do it. Just run STS like the rest of us....lose like the rest of us...and keep it HONORABLE. Cheating is NOT cool bro...
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Rep Power: 290 Ok...something new just happened tonight...and I think it's beneficial for me.
Here's the story...
I know a guy that road/AutoX races his STX prepped RSX-S.
H recently went to a new suspension set-up (full coilovers I think) and is now selling his GC coils, Koni Yellow's, and camber kit(s).
For Sale:
Koni Yellow's (Installed on DC5 strut housings)
GC Slip Coilovers (3 sets)
-Springs (all are 6" x 2.5")
2 x 500 lb/in springs
2 x 600 lb/in springs
2 x 800 lb/in springs
Front and rear sleeves (threaded perches)
Front camber plates
Ingalls F&R Camber Kit (Free)
All of the above for $500.00 and he helps with the install. (Not a big deal, I've done this install 4 times now
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NOW....
My questions are:
1) Will the DC5 Koni/strut housings FIT my EP3 ???? (In theory the DC5 Koni's will have better valving than those for the Civic...?)
2) I KNOW 800 in/lb springs are a bit TOO much for the rear, but would the 600 springs work in the rear? with the 500's up front? (I'm not worried about ride quality...I want STIFF. After the Neuspeed's on the EM2...these should be VERY nice.)
3) From the pics provided...what do ya think? Good or not?
Whole set-up for sale
Rear Camber Kit
Rear Struts
Camber Plates
Front Struts
Yes...they're dirty. But they're only about a year old...so whatcha think?
Here's the story...
I know a guy that road/AutoX races his STX prepped RSX-S.
H recently went to a new suspension set-up (full coilovers I think) and is now selling his GC coils, Koni Yellow's, and camber kit(s).
For Sale:
Koni Yellow's (Installed on DC5 strut housings)
GC Slip Coilovers (3 sets)
-Springs (all are 6" x 2.5")
2 x 500 lb/in springs
2 x 600 lb/in springs
2 x 800 lb/in springs
Front and rear sleeves (threaded perches)
Front camber plates
Ingalls F&R Camber Kit (Free)
All of the above for $500.00 and he helps with the install. (Not a big deal, I've done this install 4 times now
)NOW....
My questions are:
1) Will the DC5 Koni/strut housings FIT my EP3 ???? (In theory the DC5 Koni's will have better valving than those for the Civic...?)
2) I KNOW 800 in/lb springs are a bit TOO much for the rear, but would the 600 springs work in the rear? with the 500's up front? (I'm not worried about ride quality...I want STIFF. After the Neuspeed's on the EM2...these should be VERY nice.)
3) From the pics provided...what do ya think? Good or not?
Whole set-up for sale
Rear Camber Kit
Rear Struts
Camber Plates
Front Struts
Yes...they're dirty. But they're only about a year old...so whatcha think?
07-14-2004
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Rep Power: 356 Well.... The Ground Control Camber plates are worth about $400 alone (New).....
I'd jump all over that just to scavange the parts (Assuming they arn't a direct bolt in)
Each pair of springs run about $50
the Collars fro the Ground control are worth about $200
the konis run $550+ (and you could probably sell them to an RSX owner if they didnt fit).
your looking at easily $1000 in parts just sitting there.
I'd jump all over that just to scavange the parts (Assuming they arn't a direct bolt in)
Each pair of springs run about $50
the Collars fro the Ground control are worth about $200
the konis run $550+ (and you could probably sell them to an RSX owner if they didnt fit).
your looking at easily $1000 in parts just sitting there.
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Rep Power: 388 That seems like a good deal, but those aren't true camber plates. They are just slotted upper mounts. You can get slightly more camber out of them, but not much.
I would be all over it. Run the 500 and the 600lbs. I would think they would fit. You might run into problems with the strut mounts. I don't know if they are the same bolt size. They should be 16mm bolts, but who knows.
I would be all over it. Run the 500 and the 600lbs. I would think they would fit. You might run into problems with the strut mounts. I don't know if they are the same bolt size. They should be 16mm bolts, but who knows.
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Rep Power: 290 Yeah...as soon as I said something about wanting them for my EP3.....like 5 other people said they now wanted them....
DAMNIT !!
I prolly won't be able to come up with the money in time to get them....
Ah well....thanks for the input guys!
DAMNIT !!
I prolly won't be able to come up with the money in time to get them....
Ah well....thanks for the input guys!
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Originally Posted by FattyMcJ
But in my own opinion bro...don't do it. Just run STS like the rest of us....lose like the rest of us...and keep it HONORABLE. Cheating is NOT cool bro...
anyway, anyone ever run GS then switch to STS?
how big of a diffenece in skill is there between the two. i know that everywhere is different cause no two drivers are the same, but im sure skill levels among competitors is similar across the country
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Originally Posted by EternalVTEC
I understand what you're saying, on the other hand, i dont even know its there, i felt no difference whatsoever.
anyway, anyone ever run GS then switch to STS?
how big of a diffenece in skill is there between the two. i know that everywhere is different cause no two drivers are the same, but im sure skill levels among competitors is similar across the country
anyway, anyone ever run GS then switch to STS?
how big of a diffenece in skill is there between the two. i know that everywhere is different cause no two drivers are the same, but im sure skill levels among competitors is similar across the country
It doesn't matter what you "FEEL", cause what you don't feel...I might. Ya kno?
It only matters what you HAVE. "Feel", "Skill level", and "Expierence" are all variables that are just about in-calculable (sp?). That's why we put our CARS into classes...not the drivers.
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Rep Power: 0 maybe ill break down and go to the honda dealer and get some new endlinks for my rear sway bar and put the stock one back on. they got fu*ked during the install of my RSX bar. anyone else have that problem. the allen wrench just ate through those endlinks. and it only had about 11000 miles on it (read minimal rust/corrosion/dirt)
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Originally Posted by EternalVTEC
also, anyone ever run GS and then go to STS? big difference in competition level?
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Only diff 'round these parts....is the Index. Both have good drivers, and both CAN be tough.
Like I said above...the classes are about the CARS....not the drivers.
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Rep Power: 356 STS tends to bring more beginers around here. But, if your region has any good STS drivers running say, a 2.5 RS or a 4th gen civic si(88-91)..... Dont expect to be beating them any time soon.
Stock is easier to get in to, but tends to have the fiercest compition (And if you want to do well, be prepaired to buy some Compition only Rubber.)
Stock is easier to get in to, but tends to have the fiercest compition (And if you want to do well, be prepaired to buy some Compition only Rubber.)
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Rep Power: 399 Don't mean to go back, but I have to. Are those konis for sale revalved? otherwise, they're probably not doing so well... stock valving in them is good for something like 450 lb-in... so if he's running 800, I can't see them being in great shape. if they're revalved for higher rates... I say go for it.
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Don't mean to go back, but I have to. Are those konis for sale revalved? otherwise, they're probably not doing so well... stock valving in them is good for something like 450 lb-in... so if he's running 800, I can't see them being in great shape. if they're revalved for higher rates... I say go for it.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
STS tends to bring more beginers around here. But, if your region has any good STS drivers running say, a 2.5 RS or a 4th gen civic si(88-91)..... Dont expect to be beating them any time soon.
Stock is easier to get in to, but tends to have the fiercest compition (And if you want to do well, be prepaired to buy some Compition only Rubber.)
Stock is easier to get in to, but tends to have the fiercest compition (And if you want to do well, be prepaired to buy some Compition only Rubber.)
so would i be better starting in STS or should i try one event in STS and then for the next go back to stock and run GS to see what i like better
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Originally Posted by EternalVTEC
so would i be better starting in STS or should i try one event in STS and then for the next go back to stock and run GS to see what i like better
Either way the tracks will be different. Man....you're worrying too much about this. Just jump into STS, since you've got intake, sway bars, etc. and HAVE FUN!!
Don't worry so much about how you'll do. JUST RACE!!!
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Originally Posted by EternalVTEC
you're right
i just want to be competitive....
oh well
i just want to be competitive....
oh well
The one thing you need to do is get as much seat time as possible. Go to as many Autocrosses as you can afford, If there is a decent Go Kart track near you, GO. Spend as much time driving at a veichles limits as possible (Just not on the street please).
Seat time is the key, Build your car slowly, and keep re-learning how to drive it.
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Rep Power: 290 Due to today's results...I've come to the conclusion that my EP is just about perfect in STOCK FORM for STS. Read below for reasons and mods to come.
Mods to come in order:
1) Hotchkiss front sway bar (kinda no choice, I've already comitted to it, lol, BTW...when we gonna do that?
)
2) Racing Harness (Although the locking seat-belt trick and the stock Recaro seats are nice...a harness would DEF. help!)
3) ROTA Slipstreams (with my Azenis mounted...EASILY could have shaved a LEAST a second off my time, not to mention saved the stockies from chunking up, lol)
4) Progress Rear Sway bar/tie bar combo ( Although I got a bit *** happy, it took some effort, so instead of driving THROUGH the corner, I was constantly trying to "get it right")
5) Strut tower bars (stiff stuff....ALWAYS a plus)
6) And last but not least..................
NOTHING .......... FOR A WHILE 
It's almost PERFECT!! I must say, this car handles better than my old EM2 that I had dumped over $1500 into the suspension. It's VERY neutral, and I even got it to go a bit "***-happy" today, which made the "hairpin's" a bit more fun, lol. I had VERY MINIMAL problems with understeer, which is a BIG surprise, being that I was completely stock with VERY poor tires (Stock Mich's).
After talking with Tai and Donnie two of the fastest EP's in STS here, Honda must have done SOMETHING to the 04's suspension, because they both commented on how THEIR cars didn't act like mine did (in stock form, and even with full MUGEN coilovers), and Tai thinks that I should approach suspension mods from a different angle than preveously anticipated.....which I COMPLETELY agree with. "Honda spent TONS of time engineering that suspension, and they obviously got SOMETHING right....don't F with it TOO much." -Tai
12. 50/STS DONALD MARINO BOULDER CO > 68.474 <
02 HONDA CIVIC SI COLORADOEP3.COM
SUN: 1) 70.837 2) 69.554 3) 69.269 4) 68.474
(DONNIE^^^02 EP3, Eibach/Koni, Falken Zeix on DD rims 15")
13. 8/STS TAI KAHN DENVER CO > 68.528 <
02 HONDA CIVIC SI COLORADOEP3.COM
SUN: 1) 70.099 2) 69.811 + 1 3) 68.687 4) 68.528
(Tai ^^^02 EP3, MUGEN coilovers, stiff stuff, progress rear sway, Falken Zeix on DD rims)
19. 989/STS STEPHEN EARLS, N COLORADO SPRING CO > 70.530 <
03 HONDA CIVIC EX COLORADOEP3/7THGENERATION.COM
SUN: 1) 71.968 2) 71.345 3) 71.526 4) 70.530
(Crackhead on this site, Hayame's, progress rear sway, 03 front sway, stiff stuff, Azenis on stock steelies)
21. 999/STS JASON SCHOSHKE, N LITTLETON CO > 71.231 <
04 HONDA CIVIC COLORADOEP3.COM
SUN: 1) 71.231 2) 71.300 3) 71.312 4) 69.929 + 1
(ME^^^ NOTHING DONE....but raced STS because of the Neuspeed SS....see I'M honest )
As you can see from the RAW results, my best time was a 69.929 (we won't count the cone..hehe...it was actually the cone at the FINISH line... lucky I didn't get the timing light ). My first three runs were ALL CONSISTANT, which is actually a good thing IMO. And in stock form...I was STILL only a second off of Tai and Don.
I learned a TON today about the car, my abilities, and "pre-race prep". Yes....I walked the course at LEAST 6 times, and I was alone for 3 of them. I think the fact that I knew the course played a HUGE part in my performance, and to anybody looking to improve their "game".....my advice....WALK THE COURSE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN. Learn the sections, hell...even hold your hands up like you're driving, and turning a steering wheel....I did, and it's VERY helpfull. (Got that one from good ole Ryan Baumgardner himself.....ALWAYS wins STS....in a 98 PRELUDE!!! )
All in all, I ended up shaving a good chunk of time off my runs, I was on COMPLETELY STOCK SUSPENSION, and did just as well as others in "full STS trim"...to conclude....THE 2004 EP3 IS A GREAT CAR ALL AROUND!!
(And in my own mind....I'm starting to have visions of top 10 finishes by the end of the summer.....Donnie was only .5 sec's away from #10...and I only 1.x sec's away from him
)
BTW......FREE FUN RUNS FOR ALL...and we got finished around 3pm...so it was a GREAT DAY!!!
Mods to come in order:
1) Hotchkiss front sway bar (kinda no choice, I've already comitted to it, lol, BTW...when we gonna do that?
) 2) Racing Harness (Although the locking seat-belt trick and the stock Recaro seats are nice...a harness would DEF. help!)
3) ROTA Slipstreams (with my Azenis mounted...EASILY could have shaved a LEAST a second off my time, not to mention saved the stockies from chunking up, lol)
4) Progress Rear Sway bar/tie bar combo ( Although I got a bit *** happy, it took some effort, so instead of driving THROUGH the corner, I was constantly trying to "get it right")
5) Strut tower bars (stiff stuff....ALWAYS a plus)
6) And last but not least..................
NOTHING .......... FOR A WHILE It's almost PERFECT!! I must say, this car handles better than my old EM2 that I had dumped over $1500 into the suspension. It's VERY neutral, and I even got it to go a bit "***-happy" today, which made the "hairpin's" a bit more fun, lol. I had VERY MINIMAL problems with understeer, which is a BIG surprise, being that I was completely stock with VERY poor tires (Stock Mich's).
After talking with Tai and Donnie two of the fastest EP's in STS here, Honda must have done SOMETHING to the 04's suspension, because they both commented on how THEIR cars didn't act like mine did (in stock form, and even with full MUGEN coilovers), and Tai thinks that I should approach suspension mods from a different angle than preveously anticipated.....which I COMPLETELY agree with. "Honda spent TONS of time engineering that suspension, and they obviously got SOMETHING right....don't F with it TOO much." -Tai
12. 50/STS DONALD MARINO BOULDER CO > 68.474 <
02 HONDA CIVIC SI COLORADOEP3.COM
SUN: 1) 70.837 2) 69.554 3) 69.269 4) 68.474
(DONNIE^^^02 EP3, Eibach/Koni, Falken Zeix on DD rims 15")
13. 8/STS TAI KAHN DENVER CO > 68.528 <
02 HONDA CIVIC SI COLORADOEP3.COM
SUN: 1) 70.099 2) 69.811 + 1 3) 68.687 4) 68.528
(Tai ^^^02 EP3, MUGEN coilovers, stiff stuff, progress rear sway, Falken Zeix on DD rims)
19. 989/STS STEPHEN EARLS, N COLORADO SPRING CO > 70.530 <
03 HONDA CIVIC EX COLORADOEP3/7THGENERATION.COM
SUN: 1) 71.968 2) 71.345 3) 71.526 4) 70.530
(Crackhead on this site, Hayame's, progress rear sway, 03 front sway, stiff stuff, Azenis on stock steelies)
21. 999/STS JASON SCHOSHKE, N LITTLETON CO > 71.231 <
04 HONDA CIVIC COLORADOEP3.COM
SUN: 1) 71.231 2) 71.300 3) 71.312 4) 69.929 + 1
(ME^^^ NOTHING DONE....but raced STS because of the Neuspeed SS....see I'M honest
)As you can see from the RAW results, my best time was a 69.929 (we won't count the cone..hehe...it was actually the cone at the FINISH line... lucky I didn't get the timing light
). My first three runs were ALL CONSISTANT, which is actually a good thing IMO. And in stock form...I was STILL only a second off of Tai and Don. I learned a TON today about the car, my abilities, and "pre-race prep". Yes....I walked the course at LEAST 6 times, and I was alone for 3 of them. I think the fact that I knew the course played a HUGE part in my performance, and to anybody looking to improve their "game".....my advice....WALK THE COURSE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN. Learn the sections, hell...even hold your hands up like you're driving, and turning a steering wheel....I did, and it's VERY helpfull. (Got that one from good ole Ryan Baumgardner himself.....ALWAYS wins STS....in a 98 PRELUDE!!! )
All in all, I ended up shaving a good chunk of time off my runs, I was on COMPLETELY STOCK SUSPENSION, and did just as well as others in "full STS trim"...to conclude....THE 2004 EP3 IS A GREAT CAR ALL AROUND!!
(And in my own mind....I'm starting to have visions of top 10 finishes by the end of the summer.....Donnie was only .5 sec's away from #10...and I only 1.x sec's away from him
) BTW......FREE FUN RUNS FOR ALL...and we got finished around 3pm...so it was a GREAT DAY!!!
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Originally Posted by FattyMcJ
Due to today's results...I've come to the conclusion that my EP is just about perfect in STOCK FORM for STS. Read below for reasons and mods to come.
Mods to come in order:
1) Hotchkiss front sway bar (kinda no choice, I've already comitted to it, lol, BTW...when we gonna do that? )
Mods to come in order:
1) Hotchkiss front sway bar (kinda no choice, I've already comitted to it, lol, BTW...when we gonna do that?
)You don't have to buy it from me.. and its on order, shoud be about a 1-2 weeks.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
You don't have to buy it from me.. and its on order, shoud be about a 1-2 weeks.
Yes I do....I WANT IT!!!
What I meant by what I posted was that it prolly wouldn't have been FIRST on my list. lol That's all, no big deal!
I WANT IT!!!
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Originally Posted by FattyMcJ
....but raced STS because of the Neuspeed SS....see I'M honest
hey, im honest too. i was just wondering if they are tough on that sort of thing. i dont plan on "cheating"
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Originally Posted by EternalVTEC
hey, im honest too. i was just wondering if they are tough on that sort of thing. i dont plan on "cheating"
lol
I KNEW you'd read that....
Just takin' a stab at cha man...just to keep ya honest
lolIt's all good bro.
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Rep Power: 290 I HAVE A GREAT AUTOX CAR!!! Check this out...
I got a few GREAT pics of my runs....thanks BlueRevs....(more pics to come)
but this one's my favorite....YES....IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET ON 3 WHEELS ON STOCK SUSPENSION!!!! :shock: (Further proof the 04 EP has been modified from previous years) All visually verified by BlueRevs himself...so it's NOT just an optical illusion.....GAWD I LOVE MY EP!!!
It's only like 2 inches off the ground.....but I'd say that's pretty damn good for STOCK!!! (Need more stiff stuff for further lift....yup...front/rear sway bars here I come!!! :wink: )
I honestly think with just sway bars, braces, and rims/tires, and a GOOD AutoX alignment.......I could have a GREAT STS prepped car..... :shock: ..... as far as suspension goes......FINALLY.....NICE JOB HONDA!!! :wink:
I got a few GREAT pics of my runs....thanks BlueRevs....(more pics to come)
but this one's my favorite....YES....IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET ON 3 WHEELS ON STOCK SUSPENSION!!!! :shock: (Further proof the 04 EP has been modified from previous years) All visually verified by BlueRevs himself...so it's NOT just an optical illusion.....GAWD I LOVE MY EP!!!
It's only like 2 inches off the ground.....but I'd say that's pretty damn good for STOCK!!! (Need more stiff stuff for further lift....yup...front/rear sway bars here I come!!! :wink: )
I honestly think with just sway bars, braces, and rims/tires, and a GOOD AutoX alignment.......I could have a GREAT STS prepped car..... :shock: ..... as far as suspension goes......FINALLY.....NICE JOB HONDA!!! :wink:
Last edited by FattyMcJ; 07-20-2004 at 04:36 AM.
