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Old 03-24-2004
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battery relocating

does anyone have any experince with moving the battery to the trunk?? i am wondering because i want to know where would be the best place to put it, the passenger side or driver or in the middle?? also whats the best way to run the cables for our cars??? and how much do you think this will effect handling or corner weights??
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my battery is in my trunk, not for handling, but because it wouldn't fit up front. I used a summit battery relocation kit (40 bucks or so). I have the battery on the passanger side because i'm enough weight on the driver side, so i figured i'd try to offset it a bit.

I ran the battery cable under the car. pretty easy to do. I can't tell you how it affected the handling because my car handles way different now.
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ok thanks how did you secur the cable to the bottom of the car??
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I am thinking of doing this also. Hawk do you have any pics of how you ran it under the car?

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maybe this will help you guys
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/...51/battery.htm
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I am thinking of doing this also. Hawk do you have any pics of how you ran it under the car?

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i'll see if i can get a couple right now
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battery is alittle bigger than the stock one, the stock size was to small for the battery box.
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the cable is help up by the round clip things in this picture, we got them from napa. The gromets and everything are included in the kit.
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the cable is about 6 inches away from the fuel line, don't try to zip tie the cable to those..not a good idea
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Thanks for the pics Hawk. This gives me a better idea of what to do if I go out side VS inside the car with the cable. Looks like you followed the fuel line most of the way. I am ordering the battery kit from Summitt Racing next paycheck.
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do you have anypics of how you ran the cables under the hood. ie off of the fuse box, that wire that comes off the engine side (I don't know what this wire is maybee to the starter?) ect...
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i'll get a pic of where i ran it from the engine compartment, note to yourself my engine compartment is alittle different than yours..
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yeah i realize you have a k20 but i am mainly wondering what to do with the other wire that goes to the positive battery cable.
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One more question... I'm going to get more interested with this if my ITR airbox works out... how long were the screws you used to fasten the wires to the bottom of the car? And why was it that the stock battery was too small... according to summit, any battery smaller than some given size fits, and I'm sure our small *** battery would be in that category.
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We used about 1" screws to hold the clips to the bottom of the car, nuthing has moved yet so i'm guessing its good

You have to remember that summit mainly sells stuff for domestics which have bigger batterys than imports (for the most part). The stock battery would fit if you stuffed some stuff around it, 2x4 peices maybe. I decided to just slap a bigger battery in there, fits nice and snug.
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any idea as to what to do with the wire coming off the engine????
my kit is coming wed so i need to find out the right way to wire it.
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i haven't had time to take pictures, sorry, but all i did was run it down the front of the fire wall, its pretty easy to see when you start doin it.
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any idea as to what to do with the wire coming off the engine????
my kit is coming wed so i need to find out the right way to wire it.
You can probably just splice the wire from the battery into the existing wire. Just cut off the battery terminal from the wire in the engine and either crimp it or solder it to the wire from the trunk. Just make sure its real solid and protected from the elements.
It looks like I'll be doing this too, and what I thought about was bolting a terminal to the fender or something, so I could still jump the car from under the hood. Just make sure you insulate it from the rest of the car or you'll have a short.
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ooo thats what you meant! yea i just cut the old positive battery cable, and spliced the new cable into it, we used a heavy gauge but connecter thing.
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ok thanks guys. so a big *** but connector will work.
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soldering might be a good idea to, i clamped the hell out of the butt connector so it'd stay, but solder is a sure fire way of making sure it doesn't come loose
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where can such a large but connector be obtaned?
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i beleave we obtained it from NAPA
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ok guys i need one more thing ASAP where can i get the post terminal thing, it's the black peice with the post sticking out of it in the 4th picture down in the link on the first page. i hope this makes sense. i need to get one by this weekend any help would be great.
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well i got it done last night. all i can say is not the most fun thing i've ever done. i would recomend to anyone doing this that you pick up a fused distribution block. you can get one at any car audio shop, it makes the job a lot easier and safer cause you have the fuses in case something happens.
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Take some pictures... I'm doing it next weekend. I also wanna see what this block looks like and how much it was.
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i don't have a digicam but i'll see if i can find someone who does. the distribution block has a hole for the battery cable in (4 gauge) and 2 for the charge wire and the fuse box, then there are fuses inbetween. the fuses i used are 80A two of them that way there is a seperate fuse going for the charge wire and for the fuse box. they run like $30-40 for a fused one. the non fused ones are like $15-25 but i fiqured why risk it. if you have any other questions just ask.
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Alright... I got this done. I made my own tiedown for the stock battery. I couldn't get the Summit **** to fit (battery too small, couldn't get box to close with J hooks and the black things attached to the H bar, so I said screw it. The J hooks hold the box down, the tie down is bolted through the box floor. I may drill 2-4 more holes through the box floor and bolt it straight to the floor pan and do away with the J hooks completely. We'll see, and we'll see what the Tech Inspector will allow. I'm going to overdo it just to be sure my car passes tech, so plan on some more 5/16" bolts going through the floor.





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Thats a pretty niffty idea for the hold-down, nice job

I still like my bigger battery solution....more power!
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^^ more power..... and More weight.....

I konw of a few STS autocrossers that are using Motorcycle batteries in thier cars... Bairly starts the engine, but its a whole lot lighter then stock.


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