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Hi all, great site, lots of good info. this is my first "car" in about 20 plus years. I've always had 4x4's. decided that 50,000 km's a year in a Jeep rubicon costs too much! plus after moving to the lower mainland in British Coloumbia I have no time to play in the dirt. love my Civic, just wish it had more power and responded to upgrades better.