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I'm looking at buying the TYC Black projector headlamps for my 2001 black civic sedan. Does anyone have pics with the stock lighting both in day and nighttime. I've looked at various threads but the pics seem to be gone from them. I am worried that the lighting on these projectors will be bad. How does the lighting compare with the stock. What about the Mtec bulbs....do they really make a huge difference.....any pics will help me out.
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I don't have any pics but I can give you my point of view from experience. TYC projectors are brighter then stock regardless of what other people might say on here. When I had my civic before I put my HID's in, I compared my TYC's next to my boys stock 2001 Civic. My lights were much brighter then his stock. Then I put the MTECs in and they were great. Hope this helps.

 
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I have the RSversion projectors that are more linear then the TYC. But from experience as well, I had Sylvania Silverstars in my stock headlamps which were awesome but the projector def. makes a bigger difference. I put the silverstars in my projectors as well and they throw the light much further and give you more light where you need it. The stock lights threw light up high into the trees but the projectors keep the beam pattern where you need it.

It also depends on aiming and where you want them. If you can aim them properly then they will make a difference. Some people who complain simply put them in and do not adjust them properly and thus the outcome is lights that do not work as well.

Ive heard good things about Mtec bulbs but I stayed with the silverstars for now until I get the Naxos HID kit.

Hey Yuendawg! Did you do a full projector conversion like with the Audi A6 projectors for HID or just buy an H1 kit and put it in the stock TYC projector. Let me know and also tell me what differences you saw with the HID light if you used the TYC projector.

 
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How about changing out the bulbs? How hard is it on the TYC projectors??

 
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Stock is brighter than projectors for the 01 civics. when I had TYC's on they looked like flashlights, I could barely see. Unless you have some HID's in there, then I would stick with stock headlights if you want brightness.

 
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in my opinion, changing the 2 headlight bulbs on the TYC's are easy. the little light bulb on the side is kinda difficult cuz of the tight area, but u can still reach it and change it. the turn signal light is the most difficult cuz u cant really get to it unless u have a tiny hand. itz best to just take off the bumber to change out the bulbs. much easier in the long run.

 
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Street Glower,

Did you change out the bulbs on the projectors for another set of bulbs like the mtec h1? Did that make a difference?

 
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moved to I.C.E. & Electrical...Subforum: Lighting

 
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i ran TYCs in my sedan for awhile and they were much better than the stock output (especially after upgrading the bulbs)

LOW BEAM: Mtec H1 (4350K)
HIGH BEAM: PIAA H1 [ION-CRYSTAL] (3300K)
PARKING: Polarg 194
SIGNAL: Stock 3457 (ALTERED)

 
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Where to buy bulbs for cheap? Other than ebay.

 
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yes I did change the bulbs out, I put some hyperwhite lights from a local performance shop in there, and it was pretty much the same. if you think about it, stock headlights have a huge opening which light shines through, whereas projector headlights have a flashlight type opening which light shines through, and to me it sucked. I did like the way the projectors looked on my car, but the output sucks.

 
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yea, projectors do not give off as much light as stock headlights do. And if i were you, i would keep the regular h1 halogens that come with the headlights. I had mtecs for almost a year, and they blew out about every 2-3 months. It was a pain, plus it doesnt give off that much light. When i went back to the halogen, damn does it make a difference. It is sooooo much brighter, still not brighter than stock, but brighter than "hyper white". If i were you, i probably wouldnt even get projectors anymore, just clear out/paint my stock housing w/hid and ill be set.

 
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The people on here that are complaining that the TYC projectors are not brighter then stock, did NOT adjust them properly! In order to get the most light out put out of them, you HAVE to adjust them PROPERLY!!!!! I cannot stress this enough. If you search this site, there are tons of information on how to adjust them THE RIGHT WAY. Oh ya. Streetglower, I think you need to do more research on projector headlights before you post about them. The size of the headlight opening has nothing to do with light out put. Projectors are far more superior to standard reflector housing. Why do you think a majority of top brand car companies have been converting to them?? It is because the projector housing is ideal for high light out put. The beam of light is projected further on the road then with standard reflector housing. The beam of light is also wider, giving you more light on the sides of the car. There are also less "dead spots" of light on the ground with projectors. On a final note. The cutoff on projectors is more crisp and clean. Less blinding to oncoming traffic. Yuendawg, don't let the opinion of missinformed people deter you from getting TYC projectors. Also, TYC is the ONLY company that makes quality projectors for the 2001+ Civics. Hope this helps. If you have any other questions regarding the TYC's, drop me a PM.

 
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Very true... To get the most out of TYC projectors they must be aimed properly.

That is not true... There is a difference between size. With projectors there is a big difference. Bi-Xenons put out a lot more light then a low beam projector because the Lens is a couple MM bigger in diameter. I'AM NOT 100% sure about reflective headlights though... With projectors the size does make a difference.

Because projectors with Xenons... Make extraordinary colors (blue&purple) and light-output! Audis and BMWs have had halogen projectors in the past but, If you placed a halogen next to a xenon equipt car well... I hope you can get the picture

Thats the coolest part! I love seeing the Mercedes-Benz C320 Sedan... You can look RIGHT AT THE HEADLIGHT, AND NOT GET IRRITATED! (Well, I'am the guy that does that kinda stuff )



I WOULD ONLY USE TYC!

Well put SlaMM3D!

 
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Thanks for all the input guys......I been trying to find pics with the stock projector lights on so I can see for myself but have only found ones with a HID conversion added. Do any of you have pics??

Right now, I'm leaning on getting the projectors next month.

 
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Even with them aimed right, they still look like flashlights, if you notice, more people on this site either have stock headlights, or aftermarket ones without the orange reflector, not projectors.

 
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I just got the TYC's and I was wondering what bulbs to get for them. Are PIAA's the way to go? I need and H4 bulb, correct? But there are like 5 choices, what are the differences in them? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 
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no u need H1, get MTEC, www.ebay.com

 
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Why MTEC? Are they better than PIAA? I noticed they are like a third of the price. Or do people just use them because they are cheaper? Thanks for any help.

 
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"That is not true... There is a difference between size. With projectors there is a big difference. Bi-Xenons put out a lot more light then a low beam projector because the Lens is a couple MM bigger in diameter. I'AM NOT 100% sure about reflective headlights though... With projectors the size does make a difference."

I was referring to reflector openings VS projector openings. Just because the opening of the reflector housing is bigger, doesn't mean it's brighter. Good info on the projector sizes though Impulse.

 
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You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And you obviously DID not aim your TYC's PROPERLY. They may look like flashlights but they are most definitely brighter then stock headlights. Please stop providing false information to people on this site. Unless you are 100% sure of what you are talking about.

 
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I am 100% sure of what I am talking about, and I am not providing false information, I am simply expressing my opinion, so dont sit here and say I am providing false information. When I drove around at night, I could barely see anything, I can see alot more with stock headlights, or headlights without the orange reflector.

 
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Does anyone or can anyone help me out by taking pics of the light output using the TYC projectors with H1 halogen bulbs?

 
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doesnt have to be tycs... any projectors with halogen is what you are going to get... By saying TYCs products are HIGHER QUALITY means, they are made better... The projectors themselves are just glass.

So, any halogen projector beam shots would be fine in this case

 
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This is the only thing that I have to disagree with you on. I used to have these cheap a$$ crome projectors before my TYC's. There was a huge difference in light out put. The TYC's were much much brighter. Oh well. I've pretty much added well over my 2 cents so I should stop now and let the kid decide for himself. lol

 
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Slammed01civ,

Do you have some pics of your lighting system??

 
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h1 halogen...

sadly, i only have pics of h1 hid comparison

aim wrong or not, with the cut offline around the same level as the factory car, the light output sucked, infact, those projectors in the tycs suck. according to the hidfaq, most aftermarket projector headlight types are made with foglight projectors. if it's true about the tycs, it's no wonder the light sucked on the tycs

 
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well I got my TYC projectors for 2003 Cup and didnt install them at all, cuz I dont like PIAA bulbs, they are totally suck, I had them on my Rav4 and everytime used Hi beam to light up the road in the night.Then I got Silverstar, same bulbs, but less expensive and cool with it for awhile, cuz soon will rertofit them to HID. I dont know anythin about MTEC, but have been heard lots good opinions about Philips bulbs. Anyway I might say that TYCs better then stock.Just pick up some good bulbs and dont go for PIAA super white. Look at the Polarg or Raybrig at least.

 
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None of those pics that Voiceofid posted do the TYC projectors justice. There is not a single picture that he posted with them aligned properly. That is why the light out put looks so shitty in those pics. I unfortunetly didn't take any pics of my set up with my TYC's and HID's. I do have a video though. I have no idea how to get the vid online though. If anyone lives near Southern NH and wants to see what my set up used to look like, I'd be more then happy to show them to you. I still have my TYC's with the HID's still in them. Bring your car to me and I'll install everything in your car so you can see for yourself. If you like what you see. I might even sell you the HID kit with the headlights. I'm still debating on installing the HID's on my WRX. Even if you don't want to install them on your car. I'll show you the video of them on my car.

 
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justice? look at the cut off on the 3rd pic! the tyc projector was actually aimed a little bit higher than the valeos, and the valeo still went farther, brighter, AND bluer with the same bulbs!

that cut off from the 5th pic belonged to the valeos! the damned tyc projector didn't even have a cut off because the valeos covered all it's light. almost all the lights on the tyc projector was that little arc on the ground, there was nothing beyond that. how the hell am i aimed it improperly? higher? i would be hitting the trees. lower, then i lost even part of that freakin arc of light i had! i didn't spend another 300 dollars on hids just because i wanted to. but when you can see worth **** with foglight projectors, you tend to need something better, specially i drive from 5-8 every night

plus, the build quality of the tyc projector suck. i had 3 projectors at one time, and the tycs looked nothing like true projectors, the lens has a horrible yellow tint on it (thats why you still see yellow sometimes when you put whiter bulbs in it) the tyc projector had bubbles in it, the lens focal is completely distorted.