Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster any help on cheap turbo kits or any other bits i can do to make it faster it is absolutley standard...what can i do to make it faster what other parts are available such as induction kits (which ones are the best) any links would be helpful thanks |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster cheap + fast d17 = doesn't work, unless you wanna do it "wrong" and break something.. now, relatively cheap, sure. But actually cheap? not so much. If you plan on turboing, expect to spend some money. actually, if you expect to make the D17 fast, plan on spending money. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster Great first post, lol. The D17a2 is legendary for how poorly it responds to basic (cheap) mods, like intakes, exhausts, and cam gears. Don't bother adding them if you expect great results. The only way an em2 can be made fast is K-swap $6-10,000, or full d17a2 motor build $5000+ |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster I'd say if you shop right, you can probably get away with a proper turbo job running 6-8psi for.. 3000-4000.. But you just have to be patient and look for deals and people selling shit in good condition for cheap. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster ^Turbo D17a2 is still not that fast unless you build the internals. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster yea like they are saying going fast in a d17 isnt cheap.. all the stupid bolt ons make the car sound good but there will be no seat of the pants difference.. if you turbo it it you can prob double the stock hp get maybe 200-250 on the stock motor for like $3000.....but if your looking for bigger numbers start saving the $$$$ |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by MindBomber
(Post 4496784)
^Turbo D17a2 is still not that fast unless you build the internals. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster nitrous is pretty much your only choice to get a noticeable gain for cheap... unfortunately |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster Fast + cheap = NO GO for 7th gens Either sell it and get something older, something you can do a b series swap in, or start saving money. Nitrous isnt worth the risks IMO, sure its "cheap" but you wouldnt dare run more than a 50 shot, and I wouldnt even do that. And dont do an ebay turbo kit, besides the fact that fuel management is $600+ on a turbo setup, you'll be rebuilding that turbo in no time. And theres no cheap way to do a K swap. I say get an intake and enjoy your vtec sound as you take forever to get to 60mph. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster NITROUS KIT FTW!! I have a zex wet kit on mine and love it |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by em2c1v1c
(Post 4496721)
any help on cheap turbo kits or any other bits i can do to make it faster it is absolutley standard...what can i do to make it faster what other parts are available such as induction kits (which ones are the best) any links would be helpful thanks |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster for cheap would be putting it on a cliff, so it would get a one-time 1G acceleration. :D:D Done right will cost a lot, but done wrong will cost much, much more. so if you really want fast, K-swap, turbo or nitro.something slightly better than stock will be stage 1 crower cams. stage 3 will require a lot more parts plus an expensive k-pro. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by sdaidoji
(Post 4496909)
for cheap would be putting it on a cliff, so it would get a one-time 1G acceleration. :D:D Done right will cost a lot, but done wrong will cost much, much more. so if you really want fast, K-swap, turbo or nitro.something slightly better than stock will be stage 1 crower cams. stage 3 will require a lot more parts plus an expensive k-pro. But on a serious note, the stage 1 cam is SOOOO easy to put in, although be prepared that pretty much anything you do to your car is gonna make you lose low end torque, which doesnt sound important, but it kinda is, the stock cam is excellent for a stock car, builds torque really quickly and the torque curve isnt even a curve, its a straight line, which is amazing, the stage 1 will net higher tq and hp, but only at the top end and you have to decide if its worth losing basically all your low end. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster idk i think any " performance mod" you do to your car and you dont have to get it tuned after wards is just a waste of money....cant be making that much more power if you aren't adding fuel |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by shwoogie420
(Post 4496914)
idk i think any " performance mod" you do to your car and you dont have to get it tuned after wards is just a waste of money....cant be making that much more power if you aren't adding fuel I suggest an ebay intake, and an hks axle back, cause nothing else is gonna do anything more for your EM2, itll make it sound nice, go for suspension mods, then if you get the money go for some boost. You can do wonderful things with a civics suspension, so dont be sad in that department. And continuing on with the topic of Honda being efficient, theres a reason the D17 was the last d series, it was as efficient as it was gonna get, theres a reason they decided to design an entirely new engine series (R series), so they could make it more efficient and cheaper to produce. And in case you havent heard, the r series doesnt respond to bolt ons either, thats why they really dont make bolt ons for them. The only exclusion is the k series, you can do wonders with a k series, mostly because you have 2 cams. Theres wonders in what a k can do, especially with al the different block and displacement options, including Hondas ONLY Turbocharged engine. So, basically, to sum it up for the 100 bilionth time, The d17 doesnt do anything without forced induction!!!!! |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by shwoogie420
(Post 4496914)
idk i think any " performance mod" you do to your car and you dont have to get it tuned after wards is just a waste of money....cant be making that much more power if you aren't adding fuel The stage 3 (stage 2 is designed for turbos) will be beyond the factory range, so needs a new management system. Naturally, if you use a k-pro (recommended by most), you will unlock more power from the cam, but that will be over 1k for a few ponies... I hear that just stage 1 plus I/E/H would get close to 115 WHP (i guess bomerman did get 125?), which is much more than the estimated 90WHP. But you pay around 400 for the cams, plus the I/E/H, so is it worth? Nah... But could be better depending on how you use the car. If you shift like a mama, definitely the loss of torque would impact badly... If you rev a little more, the extra power could make the car a little more liveable, but at a price that could easily get to 800 to 1k... Again, worth the price? ... Makes me wonder... But i am not very interested on the additional maintenance required for turbos and nitrous... A swap is interesting, though. Bad is that this dawn engine is long lasting, so will take a long time to blow it to go for swap... |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by sdaidoji
(Post 4496927)
Well, actually, it is just that the cams work in a range that the stock FI/EMS can adjust itself to provide more fuel. The stage 3 (stage 2 is designed for turbos) will be beyond the factory range, so needs a new management system. Naturally, if you use a k-pro (recommended by most), you will unlock more power from the cam, but that will be over 1k for a few ponies... I hear that just stage 1 plus I/E/H would get close to 115 WHP (i guess bomerman did get 125?), which is much more than the estimated 90WHP. But you pay around 400 for the cams, plus the I/E/H, so is it worth? Nah... But could be better depending on how you use the car. If you shift like a mama, definitely the loss of torque would impact badly... If you rev a little more, the extra power could make the car a little more liveable, but at a price that could easily get to 800 to 1k... Again, worth the price? ... Makes me wonder... But i am not very interested on the additional maintenance required for turbos and nitrous... A swap is interesting, though. Bad is that this dawn engine is long lasting, so will take a long time to blow it to go for swap... |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by 02_d17a1_dx
(Post 4496922)
And continuing on with the topic of Honda being efficient, theres a reason the D17 was the last d series, it was as efficient as it was gonna get, theres a reason they decided to design an entirely new engine series (R series), so they could make it more efficient and cheaper to produce. And in case you havent heard, the r series doesnt respond to bolt ons either, thats why they really dont make bolt ons for them. The only exclusion is the k series, you can do wonders with a k series, mostly because you have 2 cams. Theres wonders in what a k can do, especially with al the different block and displacement options, including Hondas ONLY Turbocharged engine. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by shwoogie420
(Post 4496949)
yea i understand what you are saying....the kid said he wanted to make power.... thought he meant more than an extra 100hp.....as for addtional maintenance idk i have k-pro so i jusst drive around witht the lap top and make changes as k-pro tells me to and i like to fine tune it as well... i change the oil every 1000 miles and thats about it.....i also have a zex nitrious kit in the garage....brand new in the box....if anyone wants it pm me.... Cheers! |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster Nitrous ain't called the "poor mans supercharger" for nothin. Just my .02 |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by sdaidoji
(Post 4496972)
Ah, it was just to not to give the impression that there are no gains from the cam (you know, noobs will read that and say all over the net that you said that it will give you nothing, which is not true), they will give more power, with the question that: it is worth the money? For some, maybe, for others, not so much :) Cheers! |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster oh easy dood! you can get massive gains in speed for $100. just buy an electric power saw and some good cutting wheels. take off the roof. then your car's lighter, faster and a badass convertable! |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by shwoogie420
(Post 4497102)
no i said you will get like 100hp.... and i thought he wanted to make more than that b/c he was asking about turbo kits which could be costly in the end! well, you know how people can be, half words will sound like whole sentences depending on who you talking to :D Have seem some unbelievable stuff being asked and also answered around the forums (not only here, i am in another for miata's too.) I am just trying to help you, honestly! Cheers! You know i am not trying to mess with you! :D |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by mac25
(Post 4497227)
oh easy dood! you can get massive gains in speed for $100. just buy an electric power saw and some good cutting wheels. take off the roof. then your car's lighter, faster and a badass convertable! |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster Cheap way? Decals, and emblems :D |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by sdaidoji
(Post 4497631)
yup, but he wanted a cheap way :D which could be costly in the end! well, you know how people can be, half words will sound like whole sentences depending on who you talking to :D Have seem some unbelievable stuff being asked and also answered around the forums (not only here, i am in another for miata's too.) I am just trying to help you, honestly! Cheers! You know i am not trying to mess with you! :D |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster
Originally Posted by mac25
(Post 4497227)
oh easy dood! you can get massive gains in speed for $100. just buy an electric power saw and some good cutting wheels. take off the roof. then your car's lighter, faster and a badass convertable! But seriously, theres no way to cheaply make an EM2 fast. |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster what a disaster thread.....lol |
Re: Need a cheap way of making my civic em2 faster aw, sleepyrice you love it! come on i mean this cheap mod question has been asked a million times. i'd rather make a joke about saying you can't mod on the cheap to get real gains then just yell at someone for asking. |
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