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i live in canada and winter driving is seriously all about common sense, reduce your speed accordingly when conditions dictact you to do so, its not rocket science, the roads are slick so you have to prepare for that, ice tires like the michellin x-ice as i have on my car, i mean dont get me wrong i like to do a bit of ebraking around the corners near my house but never near other cars or items that can become hazardous to my vehicles look haha. Just use your head, slow your speed, and do things almost twice as early as you normally would, slow down earlier, break for lights earlier, accelerate slower, dont be a hero because youve got a turbo and wanna be ballzy, save it for the summertime. safe driving

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if you slide while braking and about to rear end someone, it's usually better just to drive off the road, ive done this and ended up with no damage and pulled back onto the road

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I live in MN, and dont think ebraking is a great way to make corners lol, if you dont have front traction already, odds are that you will end up spinning or just sliding sideways into the nearest solid object (curbs will bend your rims up nicely).

For starting on ice and snow i always use the 2 option in my auto, since that produces less tourqe and thereby less wheel spin from a dead stop.

For braking, just let of the gas earlier and dont slam the brakes, you'll do fine.

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You just use it when you start then shift back up to d4 when your moving. It just produces less wheel spin then starting in d4 and getting 1st gear. Yes if you were to actually drive on ice in 2 you get more torque. Its just 2 not D2, D2 implies you have first, but in civics you dont :)

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actually, u dont "get more torque" from driving in D2.

all D2 does is locks it in 2nd gear...and because ur lower gears have alot of torque, it helps for hauling stuff.

(maybe you know this but i understood ur answer incorrectly, or u type it out wrong)

and whoever said using ur Ebrake in snowy condition should not be contributing to this thread. because most of the weight in the civic is in front, if you manually engage in ur ebrake, ur rear will slide outta control.

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no no no and more no. that IS INCORRECT. your car doesnt produce more torque in D2 (say in 2nd gear) then it would in D4 (on 2nd gear). as i stated, D2 locks ur car in 2nd gear, so you can MANUALLY select the topgear u are in.

I REPEAT, IT DOES NOT GIVE YOU MORE TORQUE. :-bs::_doh:

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seriously, i Ebraked (lightly too) on accident while taking a turn this past winter, and my car did a full 180 into the guardrail

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Alright let me be clear on what i mean. In "2" (NOT D2!) you get ONLY 2nd gear. NO 1st...at ALL. SO when when you take off from a stop in 2 you will produce less wheel spin because you have LESS torque BECAUSE YOU ARE IN A HIGHER GEAR THAN 1st. DDragon said that being in 2 would produce more tourque than d4. IT WOULD be true, if you NEVER shifted out of 2 and just drove high RPMS in 2, since then you would be hitting full HP without shifting to speed up. BUT that was completely beyond the point, the point was to start driectly in 2nd gear because it allows for a slower, more controlled, start, then once up to a decent rolling speed, run the shifter back up to d4 and let the car do as it will. Its simply, read the manual for your car, it clearly explains this. IT WILL NOT HELP YOU TOW ANYTHING AS IT STARTS IN 2ND GEAR, YOU WOULD BE PUTTING MASSIVE STRAIN ON YOUR ENGINE DOING THIS AS YOU WANT ALL YOUR LOW GEARS WHEN TOWING IN ANY VEHICLE. (Do not tow in a civic, btw. Terrible idea)

You are correct that you would NOT get more tourqe in second by locking in second than being there in d4. That was not even close to what i said.

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also, don't lift the throttle suddenly during higher rpm or car could spin in corners.

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Clutch it hard and hold on tight

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Rip the e-brake around every corner, make sure you let the Vtec pop :rockon:

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the best advice is to get tires based on the conditions youll be driving in. tires make a world of difference. i had a b5 s4 for 5 years with ultra high performance summer tires on them. quattro would always get me up and moving efficiently, but at 15-20 miles per hour i couldnt get the dang thing to stop no matter what. my tires were the cause

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get some steelies and some winter tires... youll be all good