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Lycan 09-21-2011 11:04 AM

From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
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Hi everyone,

My name is Marco, I’m 22 years old and I live in the Netherlands. Since april 2010 I’m the proud owner of a 2001 Honda Civic Coupe EM2 (ES).

Here are some pictures of my EM2 in her current state:

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Exterior

- EDM Civic EM2 facelift taillights

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Interior

- EDM LHD Civic Type R EP3 facelift seats

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- JDM Integra Type R DC5 leather MOMO SRS steering wheel

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- JDM Integra Type R DC5 fake leather shift boot

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- Skunk2 shift knob

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- Kenwood KDC-BT31U

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- EDM LHD Civic Type R EP3 floormats

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Wheels

- 16 inch OEM Honda option rims (in winter)

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- 17 inch Evolution S038 black polished rims (in summer)

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Engine

- Stock D17A9

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To do list:
- EDM LHD Civic Type R EP3 facelift seats (check)
- JDM Integra Type R DC5 leather MOMO SRS steering wheel (check)
- JDM Integra Type R DC5 fake leather shift boot (check)
- Skunk2 shift knob (check)
- EDM Civic EM2 facelift taillights (check)
- Kenwood KDC-BT31U (check)
- EDM LHD Civic Type R EP3 floor mats (check)
- OEM Civic EM2 mudflaps
- OEM Civic EM2 window visors
- Short ram air intake
- Custom made door cards in Type R red
- JDM yellow fog lights
- BC Racing coilovers
- Mugen front bumper lip
- Type R grill
- OEM Civic EM2 hoodbra
- USDM Civic EM2 center console with armrest
- USDM Civic EM2 mirrors
- Red Honda logo’s and Type R badge
- OEM Civic EM2 facelift speedometer

Dreams:
- K20A engineswap
- Full respray in NH-0 Championship white
- Custom made carpet in Type R red
- Carbon hood
- Carbon trunk

sl33pyriceboi 09-21-2011 01:05 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
You have a sweet sweet car. It's funny how u think out all red tail lights are awesome and we think ur all red and clear turn signals are awesome.

sl33pyriceboi 09-21-2011 01:06 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
Plus u have folding mirrors. Drool.

Zeferint 09-21-2011 01:14 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
Love the car! Looks great!

Speed9117 09-21-2011 01:31 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
duuuuuuude. I want your interior! That is awesome with the DC5 wheel and the EP3 seats. Looks great. And the exterior is nice and clean too.

I've been wanting some s2k/ep3/rsx seats for so long but my poor ass can't afford them haha

iSharix 09-21-2011 02:32 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
OMGGGG ! I THINK IM IN LOVE ! :D :D :D :D
Doooo want !!!!!!

BlueEM2 09-21-2011 02:51 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
Great lookin' car. Welcome to the site! :) Yes.. I'm a big fan of the folding mirrors.

tipnitty 09-21-2011 02:52 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
Such sexy OEM wheels. I would LOVE to have a set.

MindBomber 09-21-2011 03:23 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
Looks great!

The Ep3 Type-R seats and DC5-R steering wheel look outstanding.

gearbox 09-21-2011 04:30 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
as usual europe gets better stuff. including auto climate control i see :(

sl33pyriceboi 09-21-2011 04:52 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 

Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4562917)
as usual europe gets better stuff. including auto climate control i see :(

and a better looking dash...

Shift-E 09-21-2011 06:37 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 

Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4562922)
and a better looking dash...

and headlight washer nozzles

Lycan 09-22-2011 09:32 AM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 

Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4562890)
You have a sweet sweet car. It's funny how u think out all red tail lights are awesome and we think ur all red and clear turn signals are awesome.



Thanks, I appreciate it that you like the ‘all red’ … It’s my goal to change the interior of my EM2 in ‘7th gen Type R’ style. It will be a mix of facelift EP3, DC5, facelift EM2 and ES2 parts. It’s hard for me to explain in English, but you guys will see soon enough.

I also got some plans for my exterior in the future, but at this moment I want to focus on my interior. I’m also just a student, so I don’t have much money to upgrade my EM2.

My taillights are from a EDM facelift EM2 … I also like them a lot, way better than my old pre-facelift ones … but still, I also love the USDM facelift ones (without the clear turn signals). A buddy of me who lives in Belgium has them, they look very clean, but they were also very expensive since he needed to ship them from America.


Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4562892)
Plus u have folding mirrors. Drool.



Hahaha, that’s funny … I think they are ‘alright’. I prefer to have USDM non-folding mirrors, because they are fully painted and are very unique in my country.


Originally Posted by Zeferint (Post 4562893)
Love the car!


Originally Posted by Zeferint (Post 4562893)
Looks great!

Thanks


Originally Posted by Speed9117 (Post 4562897)
duuuuuuude. I want your interior! That is awesome with the DC5 wheel and the EP3 seats. Looks great. And the exterior is nice and clean too.


Originally Posted by Speed9117 (Post 4562897)
I've been wanting some s2k/ep3/rsx seats for so long but my poor ass can't afford them haha

Hahaha, thanks … there is still more to come

But I got a question for you, is a Integra RSX the same as a Integra Type R DC5? In my country both cars were never sold by Honda. However, a few people do have a Integra Type R DC5, because they bought one in another country, but I’ve never seen a RSX.


Originally Posted by iSharix (Post 4562902)
OMGGGG ! I THINK IM IN LOVE !


Originally Posted by iSharix (Post 4562902)
Doooo want !!!!!!

Hahaha, thanks I guess


Originally Posted by BlueEM2 (Post 4562907)
Great lookin' car. Welcome to the site!


Originally Posted by BlueEM2 (Post 4562907)
Yes.. I'm a big fan of the folding mirrors.

Thanks … and like I said before, I’m a big fan of the USDM non-folding mirrors you guys have.


Originally Posted by tipnitty (Post 4562909)
Such sexy OEM wheels. I would LOVE to have a set.



Thank you, I totally agree!

At the moment I’m trying to sell the black ones, because I don’t really like them … they are just to big and fancy in my opinion. I bought them a few years ago for my (red) Toyota Celica (AT180), which I don’t have anymore. The black rims looked great under the Celica, but not under my EM2. As soon as the black rims are sold I’m gonna buy those OEM Honda 16 inch Enkei EP3 (look) rims, I just love those rims and they are a must for my ‘Type R’ style


Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 4562914)
Looks great!


Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 4562914)
The Ep3 Type-R seats and DC5-R steering wheel look outstanding.

Thank you, I’m very proud to have them in my EM2 since they are hard to get and very expensive here in the Netherlands.


Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4562917)
as usual europe gets better stuff. including auto climate control i see



Hahaha, I disagree, in America EM2’s have:

- Runninglights, which is illegal in my country
- A way better looking centerconsole with armrest
- USDM non-folding mirrors, fully painted in the color of your car
- A way better/luxurious looking stock radio console
- clean taillights without the clear turn signals

I really wish I could have all those American parts in/on my EM2.


Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4562922)
and a better looking dash...



Really? I didn’t know there are differences between the dash of a USDM and EDM EM2


Originally Posted by Shift-E (Post 4562950)
and headlight washer nozzles



Well, only the EDM EM2’s with the VTEC engine have them (the ES version). My EM2 is a ES version. There are 2 types of EM2 in my country, the LS and ES version. LS is the basic model and the ES is more luxurious. ES has the following extra stuff:

- Sunroof
- Headlight washer nozzles
- Painted door grips
- Auto climate control
- SOHC VTEC engine (125 hp)

And to finish this long post (really, this is the way we post reactions in Dutch, hehe) …

I also want to thank everyone for his reaction. I really appreciate it. You guys may not know, but the EM2 is a very rare car in the Netherlands. Honda sold only a few of them and most of them were the basic LS version. However, the EM2 might be a very unique car, almost all Dutch Honda owners don't like them. In the Netherlands and in Belgium most Honda drivers own a EG, EJ or EK. 7th gen Honda’s aint very popular here, only the EP3 is respected.

I heard the EM2 is very popular in America, so that’s why I decided to join this forum, and to be honest, I like this forum and the people here already. It doesn’t matter where I look, EM2’s everywhere! I also see a lot of ES1’s (which we don’t have in my country) and ES2’s (which are only driven by old people in my country). This place is like heaven to me!

Thanks again guys!

Kennykid2002 09-22-2011 10:25 AM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
Dam, I love it.
Love what you did with the interior

The blue EM2s here I believe come in only tan interior which is disgusting.

I'd trade with you any day if you want USDM :P

gearbox 09-22-2011 10:27 AM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
some of your wish list is possible. for example, if you have reasonable body shops in your area, you can dismantle the folding mirrors and have the triangle piece painted to match the car. in the usa we have something like that for the hybrid civic sedan where the whole thing comes painted. its not too hard to take them apart and have the corner painted.

http://images1.americanlisted.com/nl...d_21102347.jpg

running lights, do you mean low intensity parking light? you have the same headlamps as we do so its probably already wired to have that if you get a usdm headlamp switch or make your own separate switch for them.

they do make armrests that bolt to the driver seat for the 01-03 civics, but yeah the 04-05 has a large console arm rest. that is not really possible to fit due to size differences.

radio console would also be an easy swap. same with the tails if you like the all red version.

Lycan 09-22-2011 11:51 AM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 

Originally Posted by Kennykid2002 (Post 4563059)
Dam, I love it.


Originally Posted by Kennykid2002 (Post 4563059)
Love what you did with the interior
The blue EM2s here I believe come in only tan interior which is disgusting.
I'd trade with you any day if you want USDM :P



Thanks, it’s always nice to hear when people respect my interior.

In the Netherlands Honda never sold any 7th gen Honda with a tan interior. All Honda interiors are black, just like mine.

I guess I’m born in the wrong country, because it seems so easy to get a white Honda in America. In my country white (older) Honda’s are rare and even if you can find one it’s way to expensive.


Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4563060)
some of your wish list is possible. for example, if you have reasonable body shops in your area, you can dismantle the folding mirrors and have the triangle piece painted to match the car. in the usa we have something like that for the hybrid civic sedan where the whole thing comes painted. its not too hard to take them apart and have the corner painted.


Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4563060)
running lights, do you mean low intensity parking light? you have the same headlamps as we do so its probably already wired to have that if you get a usdm headlamp switch or make your own separate switch for them.
they do make armrests that bolt to the driver seat for the 01-03 civics, but yeah the 04-05 has a large console arm rest. that is not really possible to fit due to size differences.
radio console would also be an easy swap. same with the tails if you like the all red version.



That’s true, I can paint the triangle piece of my mirrors if I want, but since I want to have a white car anyway, I’m going to save for a full respray in the future. But USDM non-folding mirrors are way cleaner in my opinion, so you guys may think I’m an idiot, but I will replace my mirrors by USDM ones eventually.

I don’t know, with running lights I mean those lights that are behind the orange part of my headlights. They say that those lights are always burning on an American EM2 (while the engine is running), while in Europe we only use those lights to give a turning signal and for emergency (you know, while both turning signals are blinking at the same time).

I don’t want a 2001-2003 armrest, because it will mess up my EP3 seat. But are you serious about that the 2004-2005 center console with armrest won’t fit in a 2001-2003 EM2? I don’t understand, because I’m pretty sure they are the same size. In the Netherlands a 2001-2003 EM2 has almost exact the same interior as a 2004-2005 EM2. The only differences are the seats and the speedometer, the rest is exact the same.

A few months ago I bought my Kenwood radio, so I don’t really need a USDM radio console anymore. But … if I ever find a cheap one, I’ll sure buy it, just to ‘have it’.

Swapping the taillights seems indeed easy, but if you want to swap 2001-2003 lights with 2004-2005 lights, one plug won’t fit. I also encountered that problem, but it’s really easy to solve.

gearbox 09-22-2011 12:24 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
just be sure you get the usdm non folding COUPE mirrors. the sedan ones will not fit.

i see what you mean about the second amber parking light. you guys are not allowed to have amber on unless its for a turn signal. it makes sense because that will make it easier to see the signal. its a fairly simple thing to do if you are not worried about the legal aspect. the bulb socket is a 7443. yours may be a 7440, so in that case you would need a 7443 socket and harness. then just tap the top parking light power to the lower round parking light. im not sure how your car is wired back there. it may already have a 7443 socket but with a 7440 bulb. in which case all you need is a 7443 bulb. you wont know til you look back there. (7440 = single filament, 7443 = dual filament).

the 04-05 console might fit in the center, but it will not line up with the plastic trims in the front below the radio.

sl33pyriceboi 09-22-2011 12:25 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 

Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4563060)

they do make armrests that bolt to the driver seat for the 01-03 civics, but yeah the 04-05 has a large console arm rest. that is not really possible to fit due to size differences.*

it's actually the 03-05 with the newer arm rest console.*

The 03 is like a weird hybrid cross between the 01-02 and the 04-05

Lycan 09-22-2011 12:35 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 

Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4563084)
just be sure you get the usdm non folding COUPE mirrors. the sedan ones will not fit.


Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4563084)
i see what you mean about the second amber parking light. you guys are not allowed to have amber on unless its for a turn signal. it makes sense because that will make it easier to see the signal. its a fairly simple thing to do if you are not worried about the legal aspect. the bulb socket is a 7443. yours may be a 7440, so in that case you would need a 7443 socket and harness. then just tap the top parking light power to the lower round parking light. im not sure how your car is wired back there. it may already have a 7443 socket but with a 7440 bulb. in which case all you need is a 7443 bulb. you wont know til you look back there. (7440 = single filament, 7443 = dual filament).
the 04-05 console might fit in the center, but it will not line up with the plastic trims in the front below the radio.



Thanks for the advice about the mirrors, I didn’t know there was any difference between Coupe and Sedan.

Yeah, I meant the second amber parking lights. However I don’t need them on my EM2 … well oké, maybe in the future. But since it’s illegal in my country I can’t use them anyway … it may even create dangerous situations on the road. There only fun for car meetings I guess …

I’m really not happy hearing the 2004-2005 USDM center console with armrest won’t fit in my car. I really want it (and fit and look awesome at the same time).

I’m going to open a new topic for this problem and post some pictures … it just has to fit!!! :hithead:


Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4563085)
it's actually the 03-05 with the newer arm rest console.*


Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4563085)
The 03 is like a weird hybrid cross between the 01-02 and the 04-05



Now I’m even more confused :confused:

gearbox 09-22-2011 01:42 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
yeah the 03 was a strange year. it basically looked like an 01-02 on the outside with different tail light, but more like 04-05 on the inside. slight changes but nothing as major as the 04-05 got with completely new front end parts and more interior. the 01 and 02 each had different lower console pieces under the radio, same with the other years. you can fit the 03-05 armrest console just fine, but you will have a huge gap in the front where it meets under the radio.

sl33pyriceboi 09-22-2011 02:19 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
Honda also beefed up the suspension of the 03+ as well with 55mm front struts

Kennykid2002 09-22-2011 04:02 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
01 they put out the new civic

02 they realized there were some problems

03 they threw on some new stuff, and realized that it still didnt sell

04 they added new styling to attract more customers

05 they threw in the towel and said screw it, we're gonna make a completely diff civic

That's basically the timeline for our 7th gens

gearbox 09-22-2011 06:13 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
haha pretty much. the 7thgen shouldve never happened.

MindBomber 09-22-2011 08:16 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
Gearbox is bitter, I still think they're the greatest generation of civics.

I think the EDM and USDM/CDM dashes are the same. I don't see the difference, can you point it out Sl33py?

Shift-E 09-22-2011 08:49 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
only downfall is the Auto trannies. Without that blunder fogging evereyones glasses, it's plain to see how awesome a generation these civics are.

gearbox 09-22-2011 11:13 PM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
yeah they are pretty nice other than that. its too bad the autos cost so much to work on and replace.

Speed9117 09-23-2011 12:14 AM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
But I got a question for you, is a Integra RSX the same as a Integra Type R DC5? In my country both cars were never sold by Honda. However, a few people do have a Integra Type R DC5, because they bought one in another country, but I’ve never seen a RSX.


I'm a bit behind on the conversation, but thought I'd answer the question. Yes, the RSX is basically a lame version of the type R DC5. In Japan and elsewhere they sold the DC5 as a Honda Integra and in America they sold it under the Acura nameplate as an Acura RSX. The best we have the the RSX type-S, but it doesn't hold a candle to the Type R. The type R is on a whole different level than anything sold here.

Here's a pic of the RSX base for reference.
http://images.automotive.com/reviews...s/02-RSX-1.jpg

sl33pyriceboi 09-23-2011 12:36 AM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
i lvoe my civic. id much rather have the 7th gen than the newer 8thgen.

the 8th gen is so big and very un civic like...more like a 6th gen accord

but then again, thats just how it goes

Lycan 09-23-2011 07:33 AM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 

Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4563115)
yeah the 03 was a strange year. it basically looked like an 01-02 on the outside with different tail light, but more like 04-05 on the inside. slight changes but nothing as major as the 04-05 got with completely new front end parts and more interior. the 01 and 02 each had different lower console pieces under the radio, same with the other years. you can fit the 03-05 armrest console just fine, but you will have a huge gap in the front where it meets under the radio.



I never noticed but you’re actually right about that. In my country all 2003 EM2’s have a facelift speedometer and other seats, while the exterior is the same as from a 2001-2002 Civic. I always wondered why ...

I don’t have any problems with that of course, but I really hate Honda for creating a slightly difference dash for the 2004-2005 EM2’s. Because now I can’t have a nice and clean facelift center console with armrest … well, I can … but I don't want a nasty gap between my center console and radio console :hithead:

It really screws up my interior plans :hithead:


Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4563116)
Honda also beefed up the suspension of the 03+ as well with 55mm front struts



What? Another thing I don’t like to hear! So you’re saying a 2003-2005 EM2 has also better suspension? Maybe that’s why my EM2 is so uncomfortable … every time I drive over a speed bump it feels like my EM2 is slammed …


Originally Posted by Kennykid2002 (Post 4563127)
01 they put out the new civic


Originally Posted by Kennykid2002 (Post 4563127)
02 they realized there were some problems
03 they threw on some new stuff, and realized that it still didnt sell
04 they added new styling to attract more customers
05 they threw in the towel and said screw it, we're gonna make a completely diff civic
That's basically the timeline for our 7th gens



Well … the 7th gen Civics aint that bad. I do like my EM2 a lot, it’s a good looking and save car with enough luxury. Besides … the 7th gen Honda’s where the last Honda’s made that also looked like Honda’s … of course I like 8th gen + Honda’s, but they look so different compared to older Honda’s.


Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4563144)
haha pretty much. the 7thgen shouldve never happened.



I disagree … I really like 7th gen Honda’s, it’s only to bad Honda made some really stupid mistakes with the 7th gen …


Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 4563170)
Gearbox is bitter, I still think they're the greatest generation of civics.


Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 4563170)
I think the EDM and USDM/CDM dashes are the same. I don't see the difference, can you point it out Sl33py?



Hahaha, he indeed is … I also think that 7th gen is the greatest generation of Civics.

And yeah, I also want to know what those differences are.


Originally Posted by Shift-E (Post 4563173)
only downfall is the Auto trannies. Without that blunder fogging evereyones glasses, it's plain to see how awesome a generation these civics are.



I’ve never heard of any problems with the automatic transmission until yesterday when you told me. And are you talking about the fogging of the headlights? Because I really agree with you about that, my EM2 also has that problem.

A few months ago I went to some company who specialises in car detailing (they said). They promised me they could solve the problem for € 70 … well … I’ve paid € 70 to those damn ^!%$#! … but my headlights are still a mess :hithead:

So next summer, I’m going to try it myself, because many people say it aint that hard and if I do it the right way, my headlights will be as new :tup:


Originally Posted by gearbox (Post 4563204)
yeah they are pretty nice other than that. its too bad the autos cost so much to work on and replace.



Indeed and besides that, in my country they don’t sell many aftermarket parts. I don’t really mind, because I don’t like aftermarket, but for those who do like it’s really hard to create a unique and good looking EM2.

Of course, I’m very happy that I can use a lot of nice parts from Type R Honda’s, like the EP3 and DC5. But I guess I was just very lucky to find all those rare parts.


Originally Posted by Speed9117 (Post 4563208)
But I got a question for you, is a Integra RSX the same as a Integra Type R DC5? In my country both cars were never sold by Honda. However, a few people do have a Integra Type R DC5, because they bought one in another country, but I’ve never seen a RSX.


I'm a bit behind on the conversation, but thought I'd answer the question. Yes, the RSX is basically a lame version of the type R DC5. In Japan and elsewhere they sold the DC5 as a Honda Integra and in America they sold it under the Acura nameplate as an Acura RSX. The best we have the the RSX type-S, but it doesn't hold a candle to the Type R. The type R is on a whole different level than anything sold here.

Here's a pic of the RSX base for reference.
http://images.automotive.com/reviews...s/02-RSX-1.jpg


Aah I see, I understand now … so the RSX is the basic version of the Integra Type R DC5? Although it aint a Type R, I really like it … it looks great and I assume it doesn’t cost as much as a Type R.


Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4563212)
i lvoe my civic. id much rather have the 7th gen than the newer 8thgen.


Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4563212)
the 8th gen is so big and very un civic like...more like a 6th gen accord
but then again, thats just how it goes



I agree with you, although I won’t mind to trade my EM2 for a white FN2.

gearbox 09-23-2011 10:05 AM

Re: From the Netherlands: Lycan with his EDM EM2
 
maybe another thing to do is the gauge cluster swap from the 03-05 ex into your car. requires some rewiring, but otherwise plugs in and fits like the old one. they have two styles one with blue ring (sedan) and one with red ring (coupe). the clusters are full LED with white numbers and red needles and color rings. much nicer than the old plain ones. there is also the mph and kph version depending where you find it. and you have to find one with similar mileage to your car.

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...faq-video.html


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