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EM2love 11-29-2008 10:55 AM

Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Which one of these springs should i get?

I'm looking for a 2" drop all around and i'll be rockin stock struts for a while until i can find a good deal on them.

02civicg5 11-29-2008 12:29 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
i would go with tein s techs.. they r reaqlly good and rarely sag

kcari 11-29-2008 01:03 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
but wont give u a 2 inch drop all around

MidnightCivic 11-29-2008 01:04 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by 02civicg5 (Post 4366247)
i would go with tein s techs.. they r reaqlly good and rarely sag

those wont give u a 2" drop...i would go with progress or some eibach sportline

EM2love 11-29-2008 01:31 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Alright thanks guys.

Is it a bad idea to have 2" drop springs and oem struts?

kcari 11-29-2008 01:32 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
im going to say yes. personally as someone who has been through 2 sets of springs on stock shocks and then finally coilovers and back on stock and again on coilovers, do it right the first time. it's going to be cheaper in the long run.

koni yellows or tokico d specs are what most people use. you can even pair the yellows with ground control coilover sleeves and adjust all you want. also keep in mind, depending on wheel and tire size you might not get the drop that ur looking for

EM2love 11-29-2008 01:39 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Well i rock 17's on 215/45 tires.
I won't go any smaller ever.

I saw the skunk2 coilover sleeve's.

I was thinking of getting those and then the tokico's (mainly cause they're cheaper).

But then i saw some people on springs and it's a nice and price friendly drop.

kcari 11-29-2008 01:43 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
and likely bouncy ride and more hassle when they blow. eventually they will blow. oem shocks werent designed for the lower compression, especially at 2 inches. I have no experience with skunks
but i know the blues are just stronger than oem and dont think you should go 2 inches lower with them.

before you drop you gotta factor in the road conditions around you, if you have an exhaust -scrapage, you might need to roll your fenders, camber kit, etc.
with those tires, stechs will give u a 2 finger drop all around.

EM2love 11-29-2008 01:56 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
So i have to get struts basically.
And the roads aren't that bad here if you watch out.

So i think this is what i'm going to do;

Progression Springs/Eibach Sportline and Tokico's.

Any have links to nice cheap prices or bargains?

I wish i could just get a deal so i can have everything at one time

BigVic4545 11-29-2008 02:28 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
If you go with the Tein S Techs they will give you about a 1.5 drop all around...if you are staying with stock struts/shocks i would def. go with tein s techs. I have them on my car on stock struts and shocks for over a year now and my shocks and struts are fine....The ride is a bit bouncy but feels similar to stock....if you are going lower than 2 inches i would either go with springs/struts/shocks combination or if you have some money to spend throw some coilovers on the ride.

EM2love 11-29-2008 02:30 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Can you show me a picture of your car on S Tech's.

BigVic4545 11-29-2008 02:58 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Yea sure..here's a link....like i said its not a huge drop but its noticeable and wont hurt your stock suspension as much as a 2+ inch drop.


https://www.civicforums.com/forums/a...3&d=1226193870

EM2love 11-29-2008 03:10 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Nice car, thumbs up!

But i think i'm going to go with the Progress Sport Line springs and Tokico Blues.

Look up a guy named : +MM+

His car is on that setup minus the blue's (he has other gas struts)
and i like the setup a lot. I guess i'll just have to buy the springs first and then let them collect dust until i get paid again to get the struts.

kcari 11-29-2008 03:36 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
if your ride is bouncy your shocks are blown...
or something else is wrong

SSMCivic2k5 11-29-2008 07:16 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
if you getting anything other than S Techs...get new shocks.....stock ones wont hold 2'' drop for long...probably 3-6 months

katzenjammer84 11-29-2008 07:51 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
How much are you looking to spend?

As mentioned, stock struts do not have the valving to cope with the increased spring rates. They'll last you anywhere from 20 miles to 100,000 miles. There's no way of telling when they'll go, but at some point they'll give up.

Eibach's sportlines will give you a 2" drop, and Eibach makes reputable equipment. Your strut choices depend on your budget.

EM2love 11-30-2008 07:32 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by katzenjammer84 (Post 4366343)
How much are you looking to spend?

As mentioned, stock struts do not have the valving to cope with the increased spring rates. They'll last you anywhere from 20 miles to 100,000 miles. There's no way of telling when they'll go, but at some point they'll give up.

Eibach's sportlines will give you a 2" drop, and Eibach makes reputable equipment. Your strut choices depend on your budget.

i'm trying to keep it under 250 :/

katzenjammer84 11-30-2008 07:41 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
To do it the right way, and to avoid kicking yourself later, it will cost more than $250, unfortunately.

If you want a handling improvement, I'd suggest a larger rear sway bar.

If you're ultimately more concerned with a drop in ride height than outright handling capabilities, I'd suggest trying to find a used set of Tein Basics.

If you still can't come to terms with something you're satisfied with, I'd just wait it out until you have the money to do it right.

I'm on my 6th Honda and like myself, many of us have been down this road before. It is far less hassle and much more rewarding to do it right the first time, and your car will thank you.

Maybe hold the $250 aside and wait for the tax return or other supplementary income? Just don't be impulsive to get a temporary fix, it's worth waiting for. :)

EM2love 11-30-2008 07:49 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by katzenjammer84 (Post 4366630)
To do it the right way, and to avoid kicking yourself later, it will cost more than $250, unfortunately.

If you want a handling improvement, I'd suggest a larger rear sway bar.

If you're ultimately more concerned with a drop in ride height than outright handling capabilities, I'd suggest trying to find a used set of Tein Basics.

If you still can't come to terms with something you're satisfied with, I'd just wait it out until you have the money to do it right.

I'm on my 6th Honda and like myself, many of us have been down this road before. It is far less hassle and much more rewarding to do it right the first time, and your car will thank you.

Maybe hold the $250 aside and wait for the tax return or other supplementary income? Just don't be impulsive to get a temporary fix, it's worth waiting for. :)

True, whats the cheapest but most effective set of coilovers?
The Tein basics?
So Eibach Sport Lines and Tokico Blue's won't be good?

katzenjammer84 11-30-2008 07:55 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Tein Basics are good for dropping your ride, but for handling I find them lacking. It was just a suggestion if your main concern is reducing wheel gap.

The Sportline and Tokico combination would be sufficient. I personally have no experience with Tokico Blues, but I'm sure there are others members who have.

ANYTHING is better than stock struts.

EM2love 11-30-2008 08:33 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by katzenjammer84 (Post 4366638)
Tein Basics are good for dropping your ride, but for handling I find them lacking. It was just a suggestion if your main concern is reducing wheel gap.

The Sportline and Tokico combination would be sufficient. I personally have no experience with Tokico Blues, but I'm sure there are others members who have.

ANYTHING is better than stock struts.

I'm trying to reduce wheel gap to where its 1 finger all around or 2 fingers tight all around. That's why the sportline and tokico combination was in my mind.

kcari 11-30-2008 08:36 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
sounds good to me - but keep in mind if ur really really picky about finger gaps then just get coilovers - basics ride just fine - i've had women in my car that say it feels nice (on smooth surfaces)
u'll get used to them.

but sportline should give u the stance ur looking for. on 17s, s techs will give u a 2 finger drop anyways

EM2love 11-30-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by kcari (Post 4366651)
sounds good to me - but keep in mind if ur really really picky about finger gaps then just get coilovers - basics ride just fine - i've had women in my car that say it feels nice (on smooth surfaces)
u'll get used to them.

but sportline should give u the stance ur looking for. on 17s, s techs will give u a 2 finger drop anyways

So you think Sportlines and Tokico is a good idea :D

Awesome.

I don't have the kind of money for coilovers. :/

kcari 11-30-2008 08:50 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
u can get basics around 1 grand shipped
sometimes ive seen them for like 950 shipped.
brand new
but check out some of the used ones too - he can probably pick up a set for 500 or so. risky but...

EM2love 11-30-2008 09:05 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
see i don't have the kind of money, i'm 18 and in college :/
so money's hard as it is.

thats why i was going the springs and strut route because of the price and it looks good.

kcari 11-30-2008 10:04 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
hey i was/am in your shoes too - listen do it right the first time!!
dont be like me!

robbclark1 12-01-2008 09:47 AM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by EM2love (Post 4366627)
i'm trying to keep it under 250 :/

Not going to happen.
You are 18. Invest the money rather than ****ing up your car. /thread.

cwo715 12-02-2008 07:24 AM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
i back eibach.

+MM+ 12-02-2008 08:09 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
I have the Progress springs, and they give a nice drop cosmetically (1.8" front/2.0" rear) with minimal sag in the rear. When I first bought them, I used them with my stock struts and I wouldn't recommend this at all. My struts didn't even last for one year. I am using KYB GR-2 struts now. They seem quite durable and are pretty inexpensive, but the ride is a bit harsh on bumpy roads (even with my OEM springs). On a nice, smooth road they're excellent. I don't have experience with other brands, so I would suggest getting advice from someone who has used various brands. But, as far as Progress goes, I think they make great products. I've heard good things about their full coilover set-up as well. I think Dezod has a deal on them at the moment. Here's a pic of my drop...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1228270147

alex.w *// 12-05-2008 04:38 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
if you ever go with coilovers, i would say tein basics are very bumpy,
maybe because i set mine too low. i would go for a set that has dampening adjustablity. like megan streets

EM2love 12-05-2008 04:58 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by +MM+ (Post 4367469)
I have the Progress springs, and they give a nice drop cosmetically (1.8" front/2.0" rear) with minimal sag in the rear. When I first bought them, I used them with my stock struts and I wouldn't recommend this at all. My struts didn't even last for one year. I am using KYB GR-2 struts now. They seem quite durable and are pretty inexpensive, but the ride is a bit harsh on bumpy roads (even with my OEM springs). On a nice, smooth road they're excellent. I don't have experience with other brands, so I would suggest getting advice from someone who has used various brands. But, as far as Progress goes, I think they make great products. I've heard good things about their full coilover set-up as well. I think Dezod has a deal on them at the moment. Here's a pic of my drop...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1228270147

See you ride height is perfect!
I'm settled, i'm going to get the Progress Springs and then Tokico Blue's.

Also what size are you wheels (tires and rims)

LittleTicoy 12-15-2008 01:06 AM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
I would save up your money to get a coilover system. I'm planning on getting a set of Tein Basic Coilovers.

ProckEm2 12-15-2008 09:53 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by LittleTicoy (Post 4370846)
I would save up your money to get a coilover system. I'm planning on getting a set of Tein Basic Coilovers.

thats the best idea, i regret spending money on springs, i love my coilovers.

2005EM2 12-15-2008 10:06 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Is the Tein Basic much better than the Koni yellows with GC sleeves? I have been thinking about the koni+gc setup for a while now. I want to get rid of my stock struts and the Tein S.tech.

kcari 12-15-2008 10:13 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
get progress coilovers. made in America, not taiwan.
tein basics are a decent ride and can feel like stock with smooth roads, but there are better alternatives

2005EM2 12-15-2008 10:16 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by kcari (Post 4371040)
get progress coilovers. made in America, not taiwan.
tein basics are a decent ride and can feel like stock with smooth roads, but there are better alternatives

Thanks, Kyle. Now the next question is, Tein Flex vs. Progress Coilovers? (I think Flex, right? oh, along with that EDFC thingy.. that would be awesome!)

So you wouldn't consider koni yellows+gc?

kcari 12-15-2008 10:19 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
i would consider koni yellows and gc, the combo is proven, but there might be some mods you have to do in order to fit the yellows - im not to sure about that.

but i prefer full coilovers over the sleeve kind. might be easier to adjust i guess? another thing with tein basics is that u have to reuse some OEM parts like top hat, rear dust covers, etc. kind of a pain to disassemble and reassemble.

tein flex sounds way expensive and the EDFC just sounds like a waste. just adjust the dampening yourself and save a crap load of money. I think flexes are gonna be a lot mroe expensive than the progress. The only thing i hate about the progress is that the springs are ugly looking.

2005EM2 12-15-2008 10:24 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by kcari (Post 4371044)
i would consider koni yellows and gc, the combo is proven, but there might be some mods you have to do in order to fit the yellows - im not to sure about that.

but i prefer full coilovers over the sleeve kind. might be easier to adjust i guess? another thing with tein basics is that u have to reuse some OEM parts like top hat, rear dust covers, etc. kind of a pain to disassemble and reassemble.

tein flex sounds way expensive and the EDFC just sounds like a waste. just adjust the dampening yourself and save a crap load of money. I think flexes are gonna be a lot mroe expensive than the progress. The only thing i hate about the progress is that the springs are ugly looking.

Okay, thanks for the input.

I can't afford the Progress coilover system right now, nor can I afford it in a year either lol. I might try out the Koni combo in the near future :confused: until then, i'll just wait for my stock struts to blow on me and then I'll be forced to use my credit card on a new suspension system.

kcari 12-15-2008 10:36 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
you can pick progress coilovers up straight from their anaheim shop. no need to go through middle man.

2005EM2 12-15-2008 10:41 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
How much are they selling it for?

kcari 12-15-2008 10:59 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
u can probably get it for 950 or less.

2005EM2 12-15-2008 11:09 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
Wow.. haha.. My credit cards can't afford those lmfao

brandonparsons 06-26-2010 08:57 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
dont get lowering springs. i got skunk 2's and then bought tein basics two weeks after. even lowering springs with aftermarket struts suck compared to adjuatables.

mando_vzl 06-28-2010 10:10 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by brandonparsons (Post 4476059)
dont get lowering springs. i got skunk 2's and then bought tein basics two weeks after. even lowering springs with aftermarket struts suck compared to adjuatables.

I thought with a coil-over set up you feel like you are riding a skateboard...:hithead:
I'm familiar tokico D-specs, nice to adjuts the damper yourself...but if you want your commuter econo-ride to feel and ride like an acura...mmmm...i dunno whats the right combo.

xRiCeBoYx 06-28-2010 10:31 PM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by brandonparsons (Post 4476059)
dont get lowering springs. i got skunk 2's and then bought tein basics two weeks after. even lowering springs with aftermarket struts suck compared to adjuatables.

Not necessarily.. I was perfectly content when I had my s-tech/blue's setup..
That is, until I came across an AMAZING deal on some Tein SS's with the pillowball upper mounts..

It's a good setup for people that want a good look with a bit of performance. Then again, it's a pain when I wanna adjust my shit. The adjustable dampering I have on mine is real nice though


I thought with a coil-over set up you feel like you are riding a skateboard...:hithead:
What the hell do you mean by that? lol

mando_vzl 06-29-2010 08:52 AM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 

Originally Posted by xRiCeBoYx (Post 4476311)
Not necessarily.. I was perfectly content when I had my s-tech/blue's setup..
That is, until I came across an AMAZING deal on some Tein SS's with the pillowball upper mounts..

It's a good setup for people that want a good look with a bit of performance. Then again, it's a pain when I wanna adjust my shit. The adjustable dampering I have on mine is real nice though


What the hell do you mean by that? lol

Well, i meant that a coil set up is for a more performance oriented driving...not for daily commuting. If I'm wrong, then what would be a good "comfortable" and "sporty" setup?

xRiCeBoYx 06-29-2010 09:43 AM

Re: Progress Springs, Tein S Tech's, H&R Springs
 
I've never dealt with tein basics so I can't tell you how stiff it is, but my ss's have adjustable dampering.. It's really about how much money you wanna spend.

For shits and giggles on a cross country road trip, I set it at it's max soft setting, and it was kinda nice. I drive around (daily driving, mind you) at 6/16 all around, 1 being the stiffest.

But, like I said, I was perfectly happy with the s-tech/tokico blues combo when I was running that setup.


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